Tired of the nice guy pity party

@korvus: Thanks for the encouragement Korvus. Obviously the wait is the toughest part, but I feel like it'll be worth it :)

@genius2365: No problem; you can do this!

who says a man is supposed to "stand up" for his girl? i hate how girls and society in general are convinced that we are here to protect them. surprise; men are human beings too, with the same fears and emotions. anything that scares a female is likely to scare a male as well. **** what role society tries to force on us.

Usually the people who tend to complain about the guys who are complaining tend to be just as bad if not worse than the actual 'nice' guys, because you guys do the exact same things they do, go online and complain to people who don't actually care. Both look stupid, both look like complete tools, the difference between the two is that one (the 'nice' guy) can potentially be a cool person, because his inner a**hole isn't apparently obvious, the other one (the person who complains about 'nice' guys) comes out the gate in full douche regalia, because usually....they sound like douche bags.

Let it be known though, both are equally stupid. I just wish 'nice' guys would just give up on the object on their affection and move on when they realize it's not going to happen, rather than whore themselves out for the one person that gives exactly zero s**** about their affection.

@Planeforger: You probably were! (Friendzoning I mean). I think the only time the word friendzone is used is in defense of the person who feels slighted. You and I didn't do anything other than not feel romantically inclined, and the one who was rejected in some form or other puts a label on that reason.

Essentially what @korvus said

What about the guy who complains about the guy who's complaining about the guy who's complaining? Where does he fit in?And what about the guy who complains about the guy who's complaining about the guy who's complaining about the guy who's complaining?

@MrGeezer: Those people are reserved a special place in Hell. Next to child molestors....and people who talk in the theater.

Remember: Special Hell.

@genius2365: Dude if you aren't going to flirt with girls then there isn't any hope for you. Girls do respond to attention...you will forever be a friend if you don't step up once in awhile.

@LJS9502_basic: When did I say I didn't? I was just disappointed at my lack of luck and was wondering if I was missing something. So far in college this year there have been two girls who have caught my eye. One of them I had in my class last semester, and I would walk with her until our lockers whenever we finished class. We'd talk and I would give her an odd compliment here and there, but I think she just wasn't interested, since when I asked her if she wanted to go grab a bite to eat sometime, she responded ''Oh (My name), you're a really sweet guy and all, but I actually just got a boyfriend recently and...'' I think it was more of an excuse than anything, but since it was the first time ever asking a girl out (hey, some guys take longer than others :) ), I just shrugged it off and accepted the rejection.

Now, I have this different girl in one of my classes this semester, and while the early signs from her seemed mixed (smiles and sends me glances in class, but never sticks around for a chat), I figured I had nothing to lose by trying. I often ask her something about school to break the ice after class, and yesterday I finally got the opportunity to launch her a compliment. She's Latin american, so I called her accent cute (thanks to br0kenrabbit for that one) and asked her where it came from. Hence ensued a conversation with a nice smile and bye to cap it all off.

It might seem like a small amount, but considering that I was the shy awkward kid back in high school with no female friends, I think I'm going in the right direction. Baby steps :)

@genius2365: So ask her out already. If you keep being a friend...that's what you end up.

@LJS9502_basic: That was the plan yeah. I just first wanted to let her know I exist and do some small talk with her over a couple of classes. I did not want to be abrupt. Think I am comfortable asking her out now, just have to wait until next class or the one after. Guess we'll see what happens...

Good luck. Just didn't want to see your friend zone yourself before you got the chance.

Wow, you're so right, I wonder why more socially anxious people just don't stop being socially anxious, it's THAT EASY kids!

LOL....but true.

When I was a younger man I tried to do the whole "Get out there and do it" thing, and saw a girl I decided to talk to and had no idea what to say, whether to compliment her eyes, IDK I was new at this shit.

And when I got there all I could blurt out was "YOU HAVE THE MOST EYES."

On the plus side, the only way was up.

Interesting pick up line. Does it work. :p

Not even a little bit.

Why thank you, most people don't notice the ones on my neck, you are very kind!

"Ah, what are you doing!"

"What, I'm just trying to melt the ice."

@LJS9502_basic: In case you wanted an update, I asked her today after class if she was interested in going to eat at the mall across the street sometime. She said she had no breaks tomorrow, and then I asked her if we could maybe discuss this again after March Break (for colleges here in Canada), she said sure thing, with a smile :)

At least it wasn't a no haha. Guess I'll have to wait one agonizing week to find out...

I find the nice guy routine sad really. Grow a pair and make your intentions clear. I dropped being nice like 10 years ago I gained confidence as I got older so now I am pretty upfront about most things.

Notion comes from the fact that men are physically built much stronger than women. It's the male's role to protect the female, who's more fragile yet is the bearer of offspring.

Why agonize? She didn't say no.

@LJS9502_basic: Oh, I meant agonizing more in an anticipating sort of way :)