The Future of Humanity: Genetic Engineering and Cloning?

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#1 Edited by Emil_Fontz (799 posts) -

Do you think genetic engineering and cloning will replace normal sexual reproduction? What effect do you think these two sciences will have produced on Humanity?

My opinion:

In the long run, normal sexual reproduction will be become a rare practice, as the uncertainty it involves will make it less desirable than genetic engineering or cloning, both of which will allow parents to know exactly how their children will appear and behave. Eventually, an elite class of genetically engineered humans will arise and ultimately replace normal human beings. They will all be tall (at least 6'4"), attractive, fit, and extremely intelligent (think of Albert Einstein).

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#2 Edited by indzman (20192 posts) -

Please stop with this OVER THE HEAD / SERIOUS TYPE threads and start making old BRHD style funny threads =P

#3 Posted by Emil_Fontz (799 posts) -

@indzman said:

Please stop with this OVER THE HEAD / SERIOUS TYPE threads and start making old BRHD style funny threads =P

When BRHD comes back, you'll get BRHD styled threads.

#4 Posted by indzman (20192 posts) -

@emil_fontz said:

@indzman said:

Please stop with this OVER THE HEAD / SERIOUS TYPE threads and start making old BRHD style funny threads =P

When BRHD comes back, you'll get BRHD styled threads.

I miss BRHD sooo much, we all do :(

#5 Edited by lostrib (44045 posts) -

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#6 Posted by comp_atkins (32174 posts) -

didn't watch the video but i'll respond. yes i do think humans will take more control over their procreation as ge technologies get better. but i don't think we'll end up with an entire planet of super-people. even highly among the highly engineered population we'll end up with unhealty, unproductive folks. one's own experience still shapes who they are, outside of genetics.

#7 Posted by Emil_Fontz (799 posts) -

@comp_atkins said:

didn't watch the video but i'll respond. yes i do think humans will take more control over their procreation as ge technologies get better. but i don't think we'll end up with an entire planet of super-people. even highly among the highly engineered population we'll end up with unhealty, unproductive folks. one's own experience still shapes who they are, outside of genetics.

Don't you think that a class of Humans with baseline IQs of 200 would look down on the rest of Humanity and at the very least segregate themselves?

#8 Posted by comp_atkins (32174 posts) -

@emil_fontz said:

@comp_atkins said:

didn't watch the video but i'll respond. yes i do think humans will take more control over their procreation as ge technologies get better. but i don't think we'll end up with an entire planet of super-people. even highly among the highly engineered population we'll end up with unhealty, unproductive folks. one's own experience still shapes who they are, outside of genetics.

Don't you think that a class of Humans with baseline IQs of 200 would look down on the rest of Humanity and at the very least segregate themselves?

engineer them with an overdeveloped sense of compassion then

#9 Posted by magicalclick (24290 posts) -

Nope. Most of them are accidents anyway.

#10 Posted by magicalclick (24290 posts) -

@emil_fontz:

You mean those geeks will try to segregate themselves or they just try not get bullied?

#11 Posted by Emil_Fontz (799 posts) -

@magicalclick said:

@emil_fontz:

You mean those geeks will try to segregate themselves or they just try not get bullied?

No. Imagine an elite class of Humans: All seven feet tall, extremely fit, extremely intelligent, immune to all diseases that can infect ordinary Humans, and able to live twice as long as ordinary Humans. I think such Humans would naturally come to look down on ordinary Humans and would separate themselves from us.

#12 Posted by MrGeezer (57198 posts) -

@emil_fontz said:

@magicalclick said:

@emil_fontz:

You mean those geeks will try to segregate themselves or they just try not get bullied?

No. Imagine an elite class of Humans: All seven feet tall, extremely fit, extremely intelligent, immune to all diseases that can infect ordinary Humans, and able to live twice as long as ordinary Humans. I think such Humans would naturally come to look down on ordinary Humans and would separate themselves from us.

Uh, you do realize that they'd be banging ordinary humans and interbreeding with them, right? That is, unless you're proposing that these genetic supermen have been engineered to not like sex.

#13 Posted by Emil_Fontz (799 posts) -

@MrGeezer said:

@emil_fontz said:

@magicalclick said:

@emil_fontz:

You mean those geeks will try to segregate themselves or they just try not get bullied?

No. Imagine an elite class of Humans: All seven feet tall, extremely fit, extremely intelligent, immune to all diseases that can infect ordinary Humans, and able to live twice as long as ordinary Humans. I think such Humans would naturally come to look down on ordinary Humans and would separate themselves from us.

Uh, you do realize that they'd be banging ordinary humans and interbreeding with them, right? That is, unless you're proposing that these genetic supermen have been engineered to not like sex.

People are very selective with whom they have children. These elite humans would be the best employed, working in intellectual fields such as engineering, medicine, and computer programming. As people are more likely to breed with people in their class, the odds of them breeding with ordinary Humans would be slim since they'd be non-existent in these fields at that point in time.

#14 Edited by MrGeezer (57198 posts) -

@emil_fontz said:

People are very selective with whom they have children. These elite humans would be the best employed, working in intellectual fields such as engineering, medicine, and computer programming. As people are more likely to breed with people in their class, the odds of them breeding with ordinary Humans would be slim since they'd be non-existent in these fields at that point in time.

For starters, unless you're suggesting that millions of rich people all get genetically superior children all at once, then there will be no superior class at the start. You'd get a few early adopters who have nowhere to fit in without blending in with the normals. This means going to school with the normals, going to work with the normals, and getting romantically involved with the normals. By the time there are even enough genetically superior supermen for them to become a separate class, there'd already be established a culture of them fitting in with everyone else.

Secondly, how often has it ever been the case that people just stick to their own kind? People still marry between races and religions, poor people are still banging the rich, good looking people are still banging the ugly, the thin are still banging the fat. Hell, even when there was a "slave class", masters still couldn't keep themselves from boning their slaves. And as long as the supermen are mixing with the normals, then you're not gonna have a clear superior class and a normal class. Traits are going to be on a continuum, spread out among both the "normals" and the people who are wealthy enough to get genetically engineered kids.

#15 Edited by magicalclick (24290 posts) -

@emil_fontz:

Problem is, gay community is popular with bears right now. Those FIT elites will feel depressed for getting no attentions.

Also if they have good memories and unable to forget all the sad memories. This is going to hurt them more.

#16 Posted by Emil_Fontz (799 posts) -

@magicalclick said:

@emil_fontz:

Problem is, gay community is popular with bears right now. Those FIT elites will feel depressed for getting no attentions.

Also if they have good memories and unable to forget all the sad memories. This is going to hurt them more.

LMAO.

#17 Posted by comp_atkins (32174 posts) -

@emil_fontz said:

@magicalclick said:

@emil_fontz:

You mean those geeks will try to segregate themselves or they just try not get bullied?

No. Imagine an elite class of Humans: All seven feet tall, extremely fit, extremely intelligent, immune to all diseases that can infect ordinary Humans, and able to live twice as long as ordinary Humans. I think such Humans would naturally come to look down on ordinary Humans and would separate themselves from us.

they'd have to look down on ords. they're 7 friggin feet tall.

so we're going to engineer people who will not comfortably fit in the world that has been developed over thousands of years to fit people not 7 feet tall? no wonder they're going to be pissed at their creators...

#18 Edited by magicalclick (24290 posts) -

Anyway, it will probably be the following. Ords will tell Obama Jr to include it as part of Obama care. Amd you will get bunch of organic folks trying to ban engineered baby completely. And conservatives will try to make straight babies and these babies still turn gay, and now the angry parents demand refunds. And you get equality advocates making rainbow skin babies. And then the new fad taking over, the furries, they don't need to be tall, they jump tall with furry genes and still furry cute.

#19 Posted by Maddie_Larkin (6897 posts) -

If we do, then good. Atleast if we engineered such offspring yhey might correct some of the fuckups the rest of us have done, and very likely manage a country or nation better then the sub par leaders we have today.