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#51 MirkoS77
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I can't even begin to express the degree of disgust I hold for this bitch. Unbelievable.

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#52 foxhound_fox
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@Toxic-Seahorse said:
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It's only fucked up I guess if your're pro-life.

I don't see anything wrong with this as someone who has and always will be pro-choice.

How do you not see the problem here? If she plans to give the baby up for adoption if she gets the money why can't she give the baby up for adoption if she doesn't get the money? She's letting money and strangers decide the fate of the baby, not her own judgement or feelings. She's not making it her choice, she's making it someone else's. It seems like a cheap ploy for money thinly disguised as a social experiment. Even if you're pro-choice, that's pretty fucked up.

She's making a point. A horrible way to do it, but an effective one.

She is showcasing the fact she doesn't want the child to grow up in a home that cannot provide for it financially, and if abortion is the only option, then that's what she'll choose. She is exercising her right to choose whether or not to keep the child, and is just being a total asshole about it.

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#53 foxhound_fox
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@Iszdope said:

She's bluffin'.

I'd go all in.

Balls deep?

@comp_atkins said:

i think we're missing an important point here

what kind of dumb shit 26 year old graduate student doesn't know about contraception??

a dumbass teenager i could accept but jesus.

No contraception besides abstinence is 100% effective.

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@MrGeezer said:
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@samusbeliskner said:

And she will see the right's true colors. She won't get a dime.

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Shame she wasn't aborted.

How very "pro life" of you.

Holding an unborn child at ransom is the right way to prove a point I suppose.

Either way, this is disgusting.

It's not a child; it's a fetus. She needs $1 million or she will exercise her constitutional right to decide what happens to her body. If you're so worried about fetuses, work on developing a way to remove them from pregnant women without killing them.

Here's the proper course of action...

This woman is asking for one million dollars? Well, I think that pro-life proponents should take as much money as they can and donate to anyone other than this woman. Start a charity dedicated to raising money for pregnant women's unborn children, raise 10 times the amount that this woman is asking. And then don't give THIS WOMAN a single solitary penny.

This scenario is already happening, and does nothing to save the fetus. That's not very "pro-life".

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#55 brimmul777
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Why can't something like this be illegal??How the hell is she getting away with this???

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#56 brimmul777
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What happens to the money if she don't get the amount she is going after for??I'm curious,anyone know??

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#57 Serraph105
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@brimmul777 said:

What happens to the money if she don't get the amount she is going after for??I'm curious,anyone know??

My guess is she keeps it. Not much people can do about the money that they donated to an anonymous source.

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@brimmul777 said:

Why can't something like this be illegal??How the hell is she getting away with this???

Why would it be illegal? People can choose to donate their money to any "charity" they wish. The fact that it may be immoral and wrong doesn't necessarily make it against the law.

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#59 fenriz275
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You're assuming that this is true and not some social "experiment" or a scam to get money. I have a feeling that the father is a Nigerian prince who wants to help us collect our winnings in the UK lottery. From the website the whole thing feels like a scam as it doesn't give you anyway to try and verify her claims.

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#61 chessmaster1989
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@foxhound_fox said:
@Toxic-Seahorse said:
@JangoWuzHere said:

It's only fucked up I guess if your're pro-life.

I don't see anything wrong with this as someone who has and always will be pro-choice.

How do you not see the problem here? If she plans to give the baby up for adoption if she gets the money why can't she give the baby up for adoption if she doesn't get the money? She's letting money and strangers decide the fate of the baby, not her own judgement or feelings. She's not making it her choice, she's making it someone else's. It seems like a cheap ploy for money thinly disguised as a social experiment. Even if you're pro-choice, that's pretty fucked up.

She's making a point. A horrible way to do it, but an effective one.

She is showcasing the fact she doesn't want the child to grow up in a home that cannot provide for it financially, and if abortion is the only option, then that's what she'll choose. She is exercising her right to choose whether or not to keep the child, and is just being a total asshole about it.

It's not even an effective way to prove the point, since the sketchiness of the campaign will turn off a lot of people who might otherwise have donated

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#62 themajormayor
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Abort it then. Who cares?

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#63 brimmul777
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@themajormayor said:

Abort it then. Who cares?

I'm sorry,but that's really cold.

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#64 Seiki_sands
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One thing to be pro-choice, another to treat a fetus, which is not an inanimate object even if it is not a baby, as a pawn to prove a political point.

A fetus is a human in a pre-birth stage of development, and like any organism deserves a certain amount of respect, even if you intend to kill it anyways.

I am pro-choice. I struggle ethically with abortion. I recognize it isn't fair and is a denial of her rights to make a woman carry a fetus to term if she is opposed. Yet a fetus is and is best described as a human organism, in a pre-natal stage, and just because I can't confer the rights I would wish to confer to that organism without denying a woman's rights, doesn't mean I approve of it being treated with such casual disregard.

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#66 horgen
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How much has she made?

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@brimmul777 said:
@themajormayor said:

Abort it then. Who cares?

I'm sorry,but that's really cold.

I really don't think so. Do you feel cold killing insects?

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@horgen said:

How much has she made?

Donation doesn't start until the 7th, I believe.

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#69 brimmul777
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@themajormayor said:
@brimmul777 said:
@themajormayor said:

Abort it then. Who cares?

I'm sorry,but that's really cold.

I really don't think so. Do you feel cold killing insects?

I don't think insects/humans are in the same category?

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@samusbeliskner said:

And she will see the right's true colors. She won't get a dime.

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Shame she wasn't aborted.

How very "pro life" of you.

You're a very special kind of person if you condone this type of manipulative travesty,

Who says she is even pregnant? Who says she would even put that money in a trust fund and not take it for herself?

There are plenty of reasons not to donate to this and still be against pro-choice.

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@brimmul777 said:
@themajormayor said:
@brimmul777 said:
@themajormayor said:

Abort it then. Who cares?

I'm sorry,but that's really cold.

I really don't think so. Do you feel cold killing insects?

I don't think insects/humans are in the same category?

Yeah well fetuses are not really human. Insects might be exaggerated. But we eat good innocent animals all the time. I certainly feel that is more immoral than some thing that probably doesn't feel anything anyway.

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#72 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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@chessmaster1989 said:

Wow she's kind of a piece of shit. Setting up this campaign hoping it will fail so she can make a political point?

Not to mention who knows if she's even telling the truth.

She's a total piece of shit.

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@themajormayor said:
@brimmul777 said:
@themajormayor said:
@brimmul777 said:
@themajormayor said:

Abort it then. Who cares?

I'm sorry,but that's really cold.

I really don't think so. Do you feel cold killing insects?

I don't think insects/humans are in the same category?

Yeah well fetuses are not really human. Insects might be exaggerated. But we eat good innocent animals all the time. I certainly feel that is more immoral than some thing that probably doesn't feel anything anyway.

You have a point.I won't argue the any further.

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#74  Edited By RadecSupreme
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I hope she's exposed soon.

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@airshocker said:
@samusbeliskner said:

And she will see the right's true colors. She won't get a dime.

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Shame she wasn't aborted.

How very "pro life" of you.

You're a very special kind of person if you condone this type of manipulative travesty,

Who says she is even pregnant? Who says she would even put that money in a trust fund and not take it for herself?

There are plenty of reasons not to donate to this and still be against pro-choice.

I don't condone anything. It's not my business. I just made an observation.

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@samusbeliskner said:
@airshocker said:
@samusbeliskner said:

And she will see the right's true colors. She won't get a dime.

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Shame she wasn't aborted.

How very "pro life" of you.

You're a very special kind of person if you condone this type of manipulative travesty,

Who says she is even pregnant? Who says she would even put that money in a trust fund and not take it for herself?

There are plenty of reasons not to donate to this and still be against pro-choice.

I don't condone anything. It's not my business. I just made an observation.

Uh huh.

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@samusbeliskner said:

This scenario is already happening, and does nothing to save the fetus. That's not very "pro-life".

So...in your opinion, it's not "pro-life" unless they manage to save EVERY fetus?

Dude, you can't save every fetus. Some people are just plain gonna abort their fetuses. Therefore, if you're gonna give away your money to help kids, you're helping far more by giving that money to mothers who didn't need a $1 million incentive just to not get an abortion.

Or let's put it this way: this one million dollars saves ONE child. Whereas that same $1 million could help LOTS of children whose parents aren't using the threat of abortion in order to guilt trip people out of a million dollars.

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#78  Edited By GreySeal9
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@samusbeliskner said:

And she will see the right's true colors. She won't get a dime.

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Shame she wasn't aborted.

How very "pro life" of you.

While I agree that the right mostly just cares about moral rules when it comes to abortion, no halfway intelligent person is going to fall for this scam, so you can hardly blame conservatives for not donating. By not donating, they are simply acting like sane, rational people.

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#79  Edited By GreySeal9
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@jasean79 said:
@sonicare said:

What I do find silly is that people can be pro life and pro death penalty.

The child does not choose to be born. Thugs on death row chose to commit their crimes.

Big difference.

Either human life is sacred or it isn't. If one is using the sanctity of life argument, you have to be consistent because there can be no compromises when it comes to sanctity.

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@GreySeal9 said:
@samusbeliskner said:

And she will see the right's true colors. She won't get a dime.

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Shame she wasn't aborted.

How very "pro life" of you.

While I agree that the right mostly just cares about moral rules when it comes to abortion, no halfway intelligent person is going to fall for this scam, so you can hardly blame conservatives for not donating. By not donating, they are simply acting like sane, rational people.

Yeah, you would have to be an idiot to donate, the kind of idiot who thinks they can tell a woman what to do with her body, but that is besides the point. My comment is only meant to point out the hypocrisy of a pro-life individual wishing that someone was aborted, if this readingrainbow fellow is even pro-life, of which I have no idea. Just an observation. Don't read too deeply into it.

@MrGeezer said:
@samusbeliskner said:

This scenario is already happening, and does nothing to save the fetus. That's not very "pro-life".

So...in your opinion, it's not "pro-life" unless they manage to save EVERY fetus?

I don't know what you're babbling on about with "EVERY fetus" stuff, but purposely not doing anything to save THIS fetus is not very pro-life.

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#81 tocool340
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Eh, I'm definitely pro-choice but even I find her reasons for abortion a bit silly. Imagine if she did get a million dollars and have the kid, how will she be able to explain to her kid later in their life that she was simply "proving a point" which was why she held their life as a ransom? If you want to abort, just do it...

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#82  Edited By fend_oblivion
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@horgen said:

How much has she made?

None so far. Donations open on the 7th.

@brimmul777 said:

What happens to the money if she don't get the amount she is going after for??I'm curious,anyone know??

She says she will return it. Highly doubtful though.

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#83 Gaming-Planet
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Seems like a crazy bitch trying to a prove a point that works in her favor in both ways.

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#84 JangoWuzHere
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@tocool340 said:

Eh, I'm definitely pro-choice but even I find her reasons for abortion a bit silly. Imagine if she did get a million dollars and have the kid, how will she be able to explain to her kid later in their life that she was simply "proving a point" which was why she held their life as a ransom? If you want to abort, just do it...

What do you mean?

She's putting the kid up for adoption.

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@samusbeliskner said:

I don't know what you're babbling on about with "EVERY fetus" stuff, but purposely not doing anything to save THIS fetus is not very pro-life.

That's a really stupid standard, dude. It's like watching a doctor save the lives of 20 people, and then telling him that he's not pro-saving-people because during that time he didn't save one dude over in Ethiopia.

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@brimmul777 said:
@themajormayor said:

Abort it then. Who cares?

I'm sorry,but that's really cold.

Not really.

Pro-choice>>>>>>Pro-life

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#87 lonebullet
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If it were to be born, what is she going to name this million dollar baby?

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@MrGeezer said:
@samusbeliskner said:

I don't know what you're babbling on about with "EVERY fetus" stuff, but purposely not doing anything to save THIS fetus is not very pro-life.

That's a really stupid standard, dude. It's like watching a doctor save the lives of 20 people, and then telling him that he's not pro-saving-people because during that time he didn't save one dude over in Ethiopia.

What is stupid is bringing up other fetuses when we're not talking about other fetuses, and your analogy is absurd. Obviously a doctor cannot do two things at once, but a self-proclaimed "pro-life" individual certainly could donate a penny at any time. If you're going to make arguments, at least make sure they make sense, especially when you start throwing around terms like "stupid".

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#90  Edited By DrSpoon
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@GreySeal9: Totally agree - am 100% pro choice too but this 'crowd funding' to 'keep' a baby is a bit strange...

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#91 LexLas
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Wow, i am shocked ! Its like murder ? Ain't it ? Like she's holding her child hostage for ransom ? How can this be allowed ?

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@lonebullet: cha-ching

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@gamerguru100 said:
@brimmul777 said:
@themajormayor said:

Abort it then. Who cares?

I'm sorry,but that's really cold.

Not really.

Pro-choice>>>>>>Pro-life

I agree, but it's possible to be pro choice without being flippant about the issue.

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@samusbeliskner said:
@MrGeezer said:
@samusbeliskner said:

I don't know what you're babbling on about with "EVERY fetus" stuff, but purposely not doing anything to save THIS fetus is not very pro-life.

That's a really stupid standard, dude. It's like watching a doctor save the lives of 20 people, and then telling him that he's not pro-saving-people because during that time he didn't save one dude over in Ethiopia.

What is stupid is bringing up other fetuses when we're not talking about other fetuses, and your analogy is absurd. Obviously a doctor cannot do two things at once, but a self-proclaimed "pro-life" individual certainly could donate a penny at any time. If you're going to make arguments, at least make sure they make sense, especially when you start throwing around terms like "stupid".

Oh, so now they're not pro-life unless they donate ALL of their money? Donate a million bucks to the cause, and you're still not pro-life because you've got $5000 in the bank for other expenses?

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@MrGeezer said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@MrGeezer said:
@samusbeliskner said:

I don't know what you're babbling on about with "EVERY fetus" stuff, but purposely not doing anything to save THIS fetus is not very pro-life.

That's a really stupid standard, dude. It's like watching a doctor save the lives of 20 people, and then telling him that he's not pro-saving-people because during that time he didn't save one dude over in Ethiopia.

What is stupid is bringing up other fetuses when we're not talking about other fetuses, and your analogy is absurd. Obviously a doctor cannot do two things at once, but a self-proclaimed "pro-life" individual certainly could donate a penny at any time. If you're going to make arguments, at least make sure they make sense, especially when you start throwing around terms like "stupid".

Oh, so now they're not pro-life unless they donate ALL of their money? Donate a million bucks to the cause, and you're still not pro-life because you've got $5000 in the bank for other expenses?

I could literally copy and past the my above reply to the previous question and it would fit equally well to your two idiotic questions.

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#96  Edited By LadyBlue
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Truly disgusting.

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#97 MrGeezer
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@samusbeliskner said:

I could literally copy and past the my above reply to the previous question and it would fit equally well to your two idiotic questions.

Which still wouldn't change the fact that THE ENTIRE POINT of this action is to paint conservatives out as not being pro-life simply because they don't save this ONE fetus. That necessary implies that pro-lifers aren't actually pro-life so long as there exists one single fetus anywhere in the world that wasn't saved through monetary donations. That's an intellectually dishonest position to take, and it's transparently intellectually dishonest if for no other reason than it's an impossible fucking standard. And only a real piece of shit would lower the debate to those sort of depths just in an attempt to demonize the other side.

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@MrGeezer said:
@samusbeliskner said:

I could literally copy and past the my above reply to the previous question and it would fit equally well to your two idiotic questions.

Which still wouldn't change the fact that THE ENTIRE POINT of this action is to paint conservatives out as not being pro-life simply because they don't save this ONE fetus.

Yes, their refusal to donate just one penny will do quite a good job of painting themselves as hypocrites.

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#99 Jacanuk
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@foxhound_fox said:

Dick move, but she's making a good point that conservative **** heads don't seem to understand... that a child doesn't magically grow up to be a functioning member of society when they are adopted out or put in the foster system. It's a major reason in support of keeping abortion around until there is a financial safety net that actually protects the children from poor living conditions and abuse. Or somehow to move the fetus to an infertile mother who actually wants kids but can't have them.

Do you even know how many childless couples there is in the US who would kill to have a child but cant produce one themselves? So even tho i am pro-choice, i can see where the more level-headed pro-life comes from. So sure adoption is a magic wand but if you do it proper, it can be hugely beneficial to all parties.

In regards to this female, she is a disgrace and she is only doing it to fill her own pocket.

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Apparently this is a marketing campaign for a book.