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I believe that human beings are inherently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
Don't excuse war by saying it's in our nature. It has nothing to do with it. It's just rich people wanting to get richer.I believe that human beings are herently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
jointed
[QUOTE="jointed"]Don't exuse war by saying it's in our nature. It has nothing to do with it. It's just rich people wanting to get richer.I believe that human beings are herently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
swizz-the-gamer
Nope he's right actually...
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Don't exuse war by saying it's in our nature. It has nothing to do with it. It's just rich people wanting to get richer.I believe that human beings are herently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
battlefront23
Nope he's right actually...
So? It's in our nature to go around raping people, is that alright?[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Don't exuse war by saying it's in our nature. It has nothing to do with it. It's just rich people wanting to get richer.I believe that human beings are herently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
swizz-the-gamer
Nope he's right actually...
So? It's in our nature to go around raping people, is that alright?All he's saying is its our nature to be violent, but I would put a step farther and say we are inherently evil...
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Don't exuse war by saying it's in our nature. It has nothing to do with it. It's just rich people wanting to get richer.I believe that human beings are herently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
battlefront23
Nope he's right actually...
So? It's in our nature to go around raping people, is that alright?All he's saying is its our nature to be violent, but I would put a step farther and say we are inherently evil...
Actually most conflicts are over religion not getting rich.
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Don't exuse war by saying it's in our nature. It has nothing to do with it. It's just rich people wanting to get richer.I believe that human beings are herently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
battlefront23
Nope he's right actually...
So? It's in our nature to go around raping people, is that alright?All he's saying is its our nature to be violent, but I would put a step farther and say we are inherently evil...
Is that how you want mankind to progress? Stop pretending things are okay just because it's repeated over and over in history. Why couldn't we be the generation that ends it?[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Don't exuse war by saying it's in our nature. It has nothing to do with it. It's just rich people wanting to get richer.I believe that human beings are herently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
swizz-the-gamer
Nope he's right actually...
So? It's in our nature to go around raping people, is that alright?All he's saying is its our nature to be violent, but I would put a step farther and say we are inherently evil...
Is that how you want mankind to progress? Stop pretending things are okay just because it's repeated over and over in history. Why couldn't we be the generation that ends it?Look at the world's current problems...how the hell are you just going to "end it"?
I believe that human beings are inherently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
jointed
Thats true but we also had to of gotten along long enough to form society back in the caveman type days.
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Don't exuse war by saying it's in our nature. It has nothing to do with it. It's just rich people wanting to get richer.I believe that human beings are herently violent and that while this violence is repressed in normal society, it needs the occasional outlet provided by war.
I don't think it's possible...
jointed
Nope he's right actually...
So? It's in our nature to go around raping people, is that alright?All he's saying is its our nature to be violent, but I would put a step farther and say we are inherently evil...
Is that how you want mankind to progress? Stop pretending things are okay just because it's repeated over and over in history. Why couldn't we be the generation that ends it?Look at the world's current problems...how the hell are you just going to "end it"?
Oh sorry mate your making a great point. Lets just carry on, it's in our nature right?Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. clyde46Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.
[QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. swizz-the-gamerNot true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.
True but war seems to provide the kick in the a$$ for many people. Just look at all the advances that came out of WW2, yes some should not be repeted ever again.
[QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. swizz-the-gamerNot true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
[QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. swizz-the-gamerNot true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.
The story of Kane and Abel kind of leads me to believe that although it isn't something uncontrollable, it is a part of humanity starting at the second generation of humans.
Violence will never be eradicated. For every silly reason to go to war, there will be a group of silly people ready to fight. It is a part of the natural order of our existance. The only natural predator of humans is humans.
Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. jointed
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
Look at the plethora of weapons designed since the dawn of time. Ever since we've gained the ability to use tools, we've been feeding our urge to destroy one another. Personally I think it's an accomplishment of our enlightened society that we have reached the population we have.
Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. jointed
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
What a pathetic attitude to have. You don't think it will work? You don't think world peace will work? Ask yourself why that is. Wars throughout history are because corrupt and evil people are put into power. This is how you end it. It's easy for us to say from our computer chair that war is unstoppable and has to happen. But ask some Iraqi child or a child from Darfur. Makes me truly sick to see people with this attitude.[QUOTE="jointed"]Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. swizz-the-gamer
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
What a pathetic attitude to have. You don't think it will work? You don't think world peace will work? Ask yourself why that is. Wars throughout history are because corrupt and evil people are put into power. This is how you end it. It's easy for us to say from our computer chair that war is unstoppable and has to happen. But ask some Iraqi child or a child from Darfur. Makes me truly sick to see people with this attitude.As much as i hate it, thats the way the world is run. Humans by nature are greedy and will try to get as much as possible for themselves. Just nowadays we have learned that we dont want other world war.
[QUOTE="jointed"]Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. swizz-the-gamer
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
What a pathetic attitude to have. You don't think it will work? You don't think world peace will work? Ask yourself why that is. Wars throughout history are because corrupt and evil people are put into power. This is how you end it. It's easy for us to say from our computer chair that war is unstoppable and has to happen. But ask some Iraqi child or a child from Darfur. Makes me truly sick to see people with this attitude.No, I don't think it will work and I've already answered why. People will always find something to quarrel about...
Just look at the Palestine conflict...it has nothing to do with corrupt leaders.
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. clyde46
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
What a pathetic attitude to have. You don't think it will work? You don't think world peace will work? Ask yourself why that is. Wars throughout history are because corrupt and evil people are put into power. This is how you end it. It's easy for us to say from our computer chair that war is unstoppable and has to happen. But ask some Iraqi child or a child from Darfur. Makes me truly sick to see people with this attitude.As much as i hate it, thats the way the world is run. Humans by nature are greedy and will try to get as much as possible for themselves. Just nowadays we have learned that we dont want other world war.
We don't want another world war because people like me and you would be affected... Just shows how little we care about anyone but ourselves.[QUOTE="jointed"]Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. swizz-the-gamer
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
What a pathetic attitude to have. You don't think it will work? You don't think world peace will work? Ask yourself why that is. Wars throughout history are because corrupt and evil people are put into power. This is how you end it. It's easy for us to say from our computer chair that war is unstoppable and has to happen. But ask some Iraqi child or a child from Darfur. Makes me truly sick to see people with this attitude.You have yet to describe any sort of relevant solution. From the looks of your posts, you don't even grasp the concept of war.
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. Frattracide
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
What a pathetic attitude to have. You don't think it will work? You don't think world peace will work? Ask yourself why that is. Wars throughout history are because corrupt and evil people are put into power. This is how you end it. It's easy for us to say from our computer chair that war is unstoppable and has to happen. But ask some Iraqi child or a child from Darfur. Makes me truly sick to see people with this attitude.You have yet to describe any sort of relevant solution. From the looks of your posts, you don't even grasp the concept of war.
What you want me to describe particular solutions to the many wars? I'm talking about war generally.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. jointed
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
What a pathetic attitude to have. You don't think it will work? You don't think world peace will work? Ask yourself why that is. Wars throughout history are because corrupt and evil people are put into power. This is how you end it. It's easy for us to say from our computer chair that war is unstoppable and has to happen. But ask some Iraqi child or a child from Darfur. Makes me truly sick to see people with this attitude.No, I don't think it will work and I've already answered why. People will always find something to quarrel about...
Just look at the Palestine conflict...it has nothing to do with corrupt leaders.
Human beings are competitive. If every country made a pact to stop war than the person who break the pact first gains the most. Despite your Utopian dream, everyone will realize that and nobody will fully disarm and sooner or later the fragile peace will break.
Even if you disarm all hostile nations and oust every "evil" and "corrupt" world leader (which in and of itself would cause yet another world war). You will eventually have a rogue agent in the equation that isn't a world leader, but a leader of men. Alexander the Great and Adolf Hitler type folks who have no issues with waging war on anyone that stands in their way and leave a trail of blood, sweat, and tears.
Peace will never exist as long as humans exist. They are mutually exclusive.
[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. swizz-the-gamer
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
What a pathetic attitude to have. You don't think it will work? You don't think world peace will work? Ask yourself why that is. Wars throughout history are because corrupt and evil people are put into power. This is how you end it. It's easy for us to say from our computer chair that war is unstoppable and has to happen. But ask some Iraqi child or a child from Darfur. Makes me truly sick to see people with this attitude.You have yet to describe any sort of relevant solution. From the looks of your posts, you don't even grasp the concept of war.
What you want me to describe particular solutions to the many wars? I'm talking about war generally.First off, What business is it of yours if two groups of people want to fight. Secondly,
You come here telling people that they make you sick but have no sort of solution to offer. You are being judgemental about a concept you don't even understand. Can you even tell me what war is?
I agree that the world cant just stop fighting but i mean they can prevent it from happening. War doesent solve problems it makes it grow bigger. I think that we should just try to get along or we dont even have to get along we can just no fight.Alaarajab
We will never get along. Just look at the relationship we (England) have with France. We've been scraping for 1000s of years. Even now we're doing it. An England VS France rugby game is one of the most hotly contested matchs.
I agree that the world cant just stop fighting but i mean they can prevent it from happening. War doesent solve problems it makes it grow bigger. I think that we should just try to get along or we dont even have to get along we can just no fight.Alaarajab
I couldn't disagree more. Sometimes, war is the only solution.
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Not true, our society is changing and progressing. Why not work towards unity of the world rather that advocating war because it's supposedly in our nature. So is stealing, rape, murder.etc But it's not okay.[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Humans have been fighting since the year dot, and will always be fighting. When we're done fighting ourselves, we'll fight aliens. When we're done fighting them, we'll be back to fighting each other. Frattracide
No-one is saying that we wouldn't work towards unity. We're just stating our opinions on why we don't think it will work....if you have some ideas on how to stop all wars then please...enlighten us.
What a pathetic attitude to have. You don't think it will work? You don't think world peace will work? Ask yourself why that is. Wars throughout history are because corrupt and evil people are put into power. This is how you end it. It's easy for us to say from our computer chair that war is unstoppable and has to happen. But ask some Iraqi child or a child from Darfur. Makes me truly sick to see people with this attitude.You have yet to describe any sort of relevant solution. From the looks of your posts, you don't even grasp the concept of war.
What you want me to describe particular solutions to the many wars? I'm talking about war generally.First off, What business is it of yours if two groups of people want to fight. Secondly,
You come here telling people that they make you sick but have no sort of solution to offer. You are being judgemental about a concept you don't even understand. Can you even tell me what war is?
What business is it of mine... I really don't care if two armies want to go out into a field and fight. I care about the innocent people who get caught in the middle. I understand that there is evil in the world and war is most likely to continue. But having the attitude that there is nothing we can do about it and civilian casualties are just another statistic is plain wrong and you know it. So stop trying to catch me out on some definition of war while ignoring everything I say. It's easy enough to look at war as some necessity in society because we cannot feel the effects. But our opinions would be very different if we where in the middle of one.[QUOTE="Alaarajab"]I agree that the world cant just stop fighting but i mean they can prevent it from happening. War doesent solve problems it makes it grow bigger. I think that we should just try to get along or we dont even have to get along we can just no fight.clyde46
We will never get along. Just look at the relationship we (England) have with France. We've been scraping for 1000s of years. Even now we're doing it. An England VS France rugby game is one of the most hotly contested matchs.
There is a difference between the relatively friendly rivalry we have with France and war.Please Log In to post.
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