So what is PETA's and Vegan's take on THE FOOD CHAIN??

I get it. Violence towards animals is bad. Yes they have feelings and yes they can be hurt and scared. Yes, humans should not kill animals for food and flesh.

But what about the effing food chain?? I mean. It is bad to kill a cow for food, but a lion hunting a zebras, biting their necks, killing them with suffocation, sometimes eating the animals while still conscious is not bad?? I I mean, if they are doing the real thing, shouldn't they be practically STOPPING the whole food chain??

They are going for animal rights. Did they forget that animals eat animals?? Are they going to stop snakes from SWALLOWING LIVE PREY BECAUSE PREY HAS FEELINGS TOO??

I guess that PETA will not accept that sometimes in the real worlds, living beings eat meat, and that requires killing.

What if we clone flesh?

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MediumBread

So ****ing hungry.

Do you know why humans are so advanced in the first place? Protein. Man never would have made tools if he didn't eat meat. It's a fact.

Do you know why humans are so advanced in the first place? Protein. Man never would have made tools if he didn't eat meat. It's a fact.

TheHighWind

There are other sources of protein besides meat.

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Do you know why humans are so advanced in the first place? Protein. Man never would have made tools if he didn't eat meat. It's a fact.

Necrifer

There are other sources of protein besides meat.

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Do you know why humans are so advanced in the first place? Protein. Man never would have made tools if he didn't eat meat. It's a fact.

Necrifer

There are other sources of protein besides meat.

Yeah but starving homowhatever didn't have any peanuts laying around. No tofu in the stone age.

Eating meat is natural and I don't believe it is inherently immoral. But, I believe it should be limited to animals of lesser intelligence that are slaughtered humanely and sustainably.

Never understood why people get so worked up about Peta to be honest. They aren't really impacting anyone that much. Yeah, I personally view them as a bit nutty...but live and let live.nocoolnamejim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D9vAItORgE&ob=av2e

woo wooooh wooh... Human SHOULD kill animals for food. Why.. I only need one reason they are delicious. If PETA can't except that, than they should move to the moon. ferrari2001

PETA are hypocrites that should not be listened to.. One of their top members is a diabetic that uses medication that would not be made possible with out animal testing.sSubZerOo

If someone doesn't eat meat because they don't think it's healthy, I can respect that. If someone doesn't eat meat because they think it's immoral to kill animals, I can't respect that. How can you look at a cow and think it has a higher purpose than being made into steaks?

I refer you to the experts.

I think it's taken as ok as long as it's vital for survival.

groups like that are intentionally annoying to get attention and publicity. they're just trolling us.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]woo wooooh wooh... Human SHOULD kill animals for food. Why.. I only need one reason they are delicious. If PETA can't except that, than they should move to the moon. carljohnson3456

If we were still living in tribes and needed to eat animals to survive, I expect many vegetarians would have no problem with it. But many cultures have evolved beyond the state where killing animals is necessary. If we can live healthy lives without eating meat, some people consider it our moral obligation to do so.

I just wanted to add...are we really going to claim it's an unfair double-standard if we hold humans to higher expectations that we do other animals? I mean, most people wouldn't have a problem with a bird taking a dump in the park, nor would they press sexual harassment against a dog that started humping their leg. If, on the other hand, you've got a human doing those exact same things...uh.... Given our intelligence and resources, I think it's reasonable to expect a bit more from humans.

Here's what I heard one of my Christian friends say: If God didn't want us to eat meat, he wouldn't have made them so damn delicious.

They debate that humans are so evolved that we shouldn't eat inferiour creatures for nourisment. Though it wouldn't surprise me if the PETA wanted to introduce salads to a lion.Treflis

This isn't PETA's doing, but you can actually find some sad and depressing pet horror stories about this kind of ****.

Yes, there are people who buy things like ****ing snakes, get upset after seeing their new pet eat a mouse, and then legitimately try to get their pet snake to eat goddamned salad. And they are especially puzzled when their snake somehow refuses to eat and then dies.

Hell yeah you see stories like this. Someone buys a monitor lizard (which are carnivorous), and refuses to feed it appropriate live prey. They give it lettuce and **** thinking, "my iguana ate lettuce, this lizard should do fine on lettuce too". Lizard dies.

Or the people who buy an iguana and think, "hey...this lizard actually eats lettuce. I guess that means I can feed it nothing but lettuce." The iguana then dies.

And then there are the people who dress their ****ing fogs and cats up in actual clothes, because they think that dogs and cats are actually little tiny furry people.

Again...I'm not accusing PETA of thinking like that. But there are absolutely people out there who DO. So the whole idea of someone thinking like that really isn't nearly as stupid as I would like to think it is.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]woo wooooh wooh... Human SHOULD kill animals for food. Why.. I only need one reason they are delicious. If PETA can't except that, than they should move to the moon. carljohnson3456

Anyone who refuses to eat meat is an idiot... we're not herbivores ffs, we're the very top of the damn food chain.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]woo wooooh wooh... Human SHOULD kill animals for food. Why.. I only need one reason they are delicious. If PETA can't except that, than they should move to the moon. carljohnson3456

I'm sure most animals aren't 'tourtured', they are just slaugtered. it's a waste of time to beat the animals. Also, I don't expect people to handle animals they're are about to kill very gentally...

I just wanted to add...are we really going to claim it's an unfair double-standard if we hold humans to higher expectations that we do other animals? I mean, most people wouldn't have a problem with a bird taking a dump in the park, nor would they press sexual harassment against a dog that started humping their leg. If, on the other hand, you've got a human doing those exact same things...uh.... Given our intelligence and resources, I think it's reasonable to expect a bit more from humans.

MurasakiYugata

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]woo wooooh wooh... Human SHOULD kill animals for food. Why.. I only need one reason they are delicious. If PETA can't except that, than they should move to the moon. carljohnson3456

On the other hand...the meat at the grocery store or the local McDonalds doesn't come with a stamp stating that the animals weren't tortured. It's just meat, people buy that meat on the assumption that the animal wasn't tortured (you know...seeing as how there are laws against animal cruelty).

Sure you can watch videos of someone torturing pigs or chickens. I'll wager that you can also probably find videos of someone spitting in or pissingon someone else's hamburger. So? That doesn't really say much, other than that some people are willing to do some stupid **** in front of a camera.

If someone doesn't eat meat because they don't think it's healthy, I can respect that. If someone doesn't eat meat because they think it's immoral to kill animals, I can't respect that. How can you look at a cow and think it has a higher purpose than being made into steaks?

aransom

In all fairness, I can't condone that logic.

Someone could equally well decide that HUMANITY is garbage which serves no higher purpose. That humanity is worthless, that humans are fundamentally worse than feces. One absolutely COULD think that way, and many people actually DO. But...most still don't go out and murder and eat people.

One can equally ask why it would be the least bit rational to think that WE have any higher moral purpose beyond being slaves for the aliens once they arrive. All that's irrelevant. What it boils down to is sheer might, the ability to ENFORCE a particular set of moral values.

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I just wanted to add...are we really going to claim it's an unfair double-standard if we hold humans to higher expectations that we do other animals? I mean, most people wouldn't have a problem with a bird taking a dump in the park, nor would they press sexual harassment against a dog that started humping their leg. If, on the other hand, you've got a human doing those exact same things...uh.... Given our intelligence and resources, I think it's reasonable to expect a bit more from humans.

testfactor888

It's a very valid point. The point is that PEOPLE are hypocrites. Not just Peta, but PEOPLE.

People justify what they want to do anyway, and then have a moral opposition to that which they dislike. Even if the justification for both is EXACTLY the same.

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I just wanted to add...are we really going to claim it's an unfair double-standard if we hold humans to higher expectations that we do other animals? I mean, most people wouldn't have a problem with a bird taking a dump in the park, nor would they press sexual harassment against a dog that started humping their leg. If, on the other hand, you've got a human doing those exact same things...uh.... Given our intelligence and resources, I think it's reasonable to expect a bit more from humans.

MrGeezer

It's a very valid point. The point is that PEOPLE are hypocrites. Not just Peta, but PEOPLE.

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[QUOTE="testfactor888"] *continues eating a burger huh sorry I was enjoying this so much I completely forgot what you we're sayingtestfactor888

It's a very valid point. The point is that PEOPLE are hypocrites. Not just Peta, but PEOPLE.

OKAY!!

If you SAY so.

I mean, I've been typing this way for a good ten YEARS now and hardly anyone ever seems to complain. But since YOU have a problem with it, I will STOP. I've never stopped BEFORE, but I'll make a special effort to stop NOW, just to satisfy YOU.

Okay...now I've gotten that out of my system. No more capitalized words starting....NOW!

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It's a very valid point. The point is that PEOPLE are hypocrites. Not just Peta, but PEOPLE.

MrGeezer

OKAY!!

If you SAY so.

I mean, I've been typing this way for a good ten YEARS now and hardly anyone ever seems to complain. But since YOU have a problem with it, I will STOP. I've never stopped BEFORE, but I'll make a special effort to stop NOW, just to satisfy YOU.

Okay...now I've gotten that out of my system. No more capitalized words starting....NOW!

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[QUOTE="testfactor888"] *continues eating a burger huh sorry I was enjoying this so much I completely forgot what you we're sayingtestfactor888

It's a very valid point. The point is that PEOPLE are hypocrites. Not just Peta, but PEOPLE.

I feel like I'm reading a comic book.

I think hunting for sport is a horrible thing, but in my opinion there isnt too much wrong with eating meat, thats just the way of the world.

Of course the animal has to be treated properly, cruelty to animals is never right.

Of course if a person chooses not to eat meat, I fully respect their decision , what annoys me is that some people who won't eat meat , will preach to me about why I should become a vegetarian.

I expect the same respect from them as I give them , which sadly isn't the case.

I love animals, they are tastey.AutoPilotOn

I'm a vegetarian, but I'm not against the principle of eating meat. I mean, I'm personally uncomfortable with doing so, but I know that a 'meatless' world is impossible. What DOES bother me is the way in which most production animals are treated. The word 'production' says it all. Nowadays, people insist on eating meat every day, yet are not prepared to pay an appropiate price, so they resort en masse to industrial farming and the like. Meat used to be a luxury product, now they see it as some kind of right or necessity (neither of which it is). So yeah, you can play the 'food chain' card and say animals eat other animals, but animals don't lock other animals in cages and force feed them with chemically enhanced food until they are either fat enough to be butchered or die of depression and loneliness.

PETA are hypocrites that should not be listened to.. One of their top members is a diabetic that uses medication that would not be made possible with out animal testing.

Here's what I heard one of my Christian friends say: If God didn't want us to eat meat, he wouldn't have made them so damn delicious.

Vesica_Prime

If God didn't want us to have sex before marriage, he wouldn't have made women so damn attractive.

I'm a vegetarian, but I'm not against the principle of eating meat. I mean, I'm personally uncomfortable with doing so, but I know that a 'meatless' world is impossible. What DOES bother me is the way in which most production animals are treated. The word 'production' says it all. Nowadays, people insist on eating meat every day, yet are not prepared to pay an appropiate price, so they resort en masse to industrial farming and the like. Meat used to be a luxury product, now they see it as some kind of right or necessity (neither of which it is). So yeah, you can play the 'food chain' card and say animals eat other animals, but animals don't lock other animals in cages and force feed them with chemically enhanced food until they are either fat enough to be butchered or die of depression and loneliness.

DraugenCP

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I'm a vegetarian, but I'm not against the principle of eating meat. I mean, I'm personally uncomfortable with doing so, but I know that a 'meatless' world is impossible. What DOES bother me is the way in which most production animals are treated. The word 'production' says it all. Nowadays, people insist on eating meat every day, yet are not prepared to pay an appropiate price, so they resort en masse to industrial farming and the like. Meat used to be a luxury product, now they see it as some kind of right or necessity (neither of which it is). So yeah, you can play the 'food chain' card and say animals eat other animals, but animals don't lock other animals in cages and force feed them with chemically enhanced food until they are either fat enough to be butchered or die of depression and loneliness.

Inconsistancy

Not sure if srs, but I was refering to rabbits with that, actually, as it is commonly known they tend to die of depression or stress in their cages. They are quite smart and social animals that are rather sensitive to what happens around them.

Meat is healthy for humans as it contains proteins, but it's certainly not necessary to eat daily. In fact, that's a rather recent habit. Besides, similar proteins can be gathered from eggs or soja, so vegetarians do not have shortage of any vitamins at all as long as they have a healthy, balanced diet (which goes for everyone out there). Vegans do have to take extra vitamin pills and stuff, but it's certainly possible to live that way.