So the 10th year anniversary of 9/11 is coming

Do you feel anything has really "changed" since then for Americans? Good change or Bad change? or the Same?

I think everythings basically almost the same as 10 years ago..except the debt now is worse than when the towers fell...the Military is probably more Alert..and Intelligence gotten better...what about you? your thoughts?

lol not a big deal.

I'd say plenty has changed but not necessarily towards good.

I feel the developed world is more secure and aware. Beyond that, what would you be looking for?

nothing but more restrictions and annoyances, the political climate is now hate centric for both of the major parties... yea i got nothing good to say other than i have a job and expendable income.

i think the US government backed programs have gotten less controlled. their setup but not backed programs and establishments arent even considering the governments interests and that the debt and employement rates are much worse. the system is getting out of hand.. they raided gibson for the second time for absolutely no reason and they are also not kicking bank of america in the pants where it needs a nice good foot mark.

obama and hsi administraiton have done nothing for the USA imho and argueably have made things worse.

id also like to point out that the 9/11 rescue teams arent welcome at the anniversary which is really wrong. i personnaly think that obama needs to be impeached and that perry should drop out of the runnings if he has any idea fo what the USA needs.

i also dont approve of the attempts to pressure the canadian government into making the border practically transparent for us backed programs such as homeland security, FEMA, us coast guard and the CIA. i considering it an attempt to bully our governemnt into violating or at the minimum harassing our sovereignty as a nation.

i think the US government backed programs have gotten less controlled. their setup but not backed programs and establishments arent even considering the governments interests and that the debt and employement rates are much worse. the system is getting out of hand.. they raided gibson for the second time for absolutely no reason and they are also not kicking bank of america in the pants where it needs a nice good foot mark.

obama and hsi administraiton have done nothing for the USA imho and argueably have made things worse.

id also like to point out that the 9/11 rescue teams arent welcome at the anniversary which is really wrong. i personnaly think that obama needs to be impeached and that perry should drop out of the runnings if he has any idea fo what the USA needs.

i also dont approve of the attempts to pressure the canadian government into making the border practically transparent for us backed programs such as homeland security, FEMA, us coast guard and the CIA. i considering it an attempt to bully our governemnt into violating or at the minimum harassing our sovereignty as a nation.

ionusX

i personnaly think that obama needs to be impeached and that perry should drop out of the runnings if he has any idea fo what the USA needs.

ionusX

I'd say the big difference between then and now is that now, there is more scrutiny put on people. Unfortunately, the scrutiny is put on the WRONG people.

We have all this TSA (T&A) nonsense going on.... but it seems the main reason there hasn't been a successful attack is NOT because of our 'top notch' security..... it's because the 'evil doers' have been incompetent.

- Shoe Bomber: messed up (couldn't get his shoe lit)

- Underwear Bomber: messed up (mixed his chemicals too early)

- Times Square Bomber: messed up (didn't get the detonator right)

Of course, there was the shooting incident at Fort Hood. Then again, people who raised questions about the shooter's (Nidal Hassan) behaviour were either ignored or urged to keep quiet, as to not be labeled as racist.

So, the big difference between then and now is that now we have all sorts of 'checks' in place..... but I'm sad to say we use them in the worst and least effective ways.

Uhm, the economy is worse than it was 10 years ago?

Uhm, the economy is worse than it was 10 years ago?

airshocker

I'd say the big difference between then and now is that now, there is more scrutiny put on people. Unfortunately, the scrutiny is put on the WRONG people.

We have all this TSA (T&A) nonsense going on.... but it seems the main reason there hasn't been a successful attack is NOT because of our 'top notch' security..... it's because the 'evil doers' have been incompetent.

- Shoe Bomber: messed up (couldn't get his shoe lit)

- Underwear Bomber: messed up (mixed his chemicals too early)

- Times Square Bomber: messed up (didn't get the detonator right)

Of course, there was the shooting incident at Fort Hood. Then again, people who raised questions about the shooter's (Nidal Hassan) behaviour were either ignored or urged to keep quiet, as to not be labeled as racist.

So, the big difference between then and now is that now we have all sorts of 'checks' in place..... but I'm sad to say we use them in the worst and least effective ways.

Planet_Pluto

are you asking? because if so then yescee1gee

Then I don't really see how things are "the same" as they were 10 years ago.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]i personnaly think that obama needs to be impeached and that perry should drop out of the runnings if he has any idea fo what the USA needs.

sherman-tank1

not from what ive seen. while he hasnt ya know done anything downright terrible. hes not made things any better nor set them on a road to recovery. all hes done is stall timme the next guy comes along to take his seat and do something more productive. hes not helped the US in any real productive ways i feel which is just as bad as making things worse.

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]are you asking? because if so then yesairshocker

Then I don't really see how things are "the same" as they were 10 years ago.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]i personnaly think that obama needs to be impeached and that perry should drop out of the runnings if he has any idea fo what the USA needs.

ionusX

not from what ive seen. while he hasnt ya know done anything downright terrible. hes not made things any better nor set them on a road to recovery. all hes done is stall timme the next guy comes along to take his seat and do something more productive. hes not helped the US in any real productive ways i feel which is just as bad as making things worse.

Job performance is not an impeachable offense.

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

I'd say the big difference between then and now is that now, there is more scrutiny put on people. Unfortunately, the scrutiny is put on the WRONG people.

We have all this TSA (T&A) nonsense going on.... but it seems the main reason there hasn't been a successful attack is NOT because of our 'top notch' security..... it's because the 'evil doers' have been incompetent.

- Shoe Bomber: messed up (couldn't get his shoe lit)

- Underwear Bomber: messed up (mixed his chemicals too early)

- Times Square Bomber: messed up (didn't get the detonator right)

Of course, there was the shooting incident at Fort Hood. Then again, people who raised questions about the shooter's (Nidal Hassan) behaviour were either ignored or urged to keep quiet, as to not be labeled as racist.

So, the big difference between then and now is that now we have all sorts of 'checks' in place..... but I'm sad to say we use them in the worst and least effective ways.

comp_atkins

It seems the TSA tests their applicants. Seems like the ones that fail are the ones that end up feeling us up at the airports.

Things have changed for the worse. We gave away freedoms that we'll never get back. The economy is crap. Then there's the Tea Party, Waka Flaka, and Nicholas Cage is broke.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Please tell me you are joking.

Oleg_Huzwog

not from what ive seen. while he hasnt ya know done anything downright terrible. hes not made things any better nor set them on a road to recovery. all hes done is stall timme the next guy comes along to take his seat and do something more productive. hes not helped the US in any real productive ways i feel which is just as bad as making things worse.

Job performance is not an impeachable offense.

peoples attitudes never changed, the economy is still bad..so from being bad to still bad is not a changecee1gee

The economy wasn't bad 10 years ago.

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]peoples attitudes never changed, the economy is still bad..so from being bad to still bad is not a changeairshocker

The economy wasn't bad 10 years ago.

ipersonnaly think that obama needs to be impeached and that perry should drop out of the runnings if he has any idea fo what the USA needs.ionusX

And what, pray tell, would he be impeached for?

http://seekingalpha.com/article/257213-exploring-employment-over-the-past-10-years-through-charts thats a chart cee1gee

What aren't you understanding? Compared to today, the economy wasn't bad 10 years ago. You don't need a chart to figure that out.

I think the world is a worse place for everyone since 9/11.

Some things have gotten better. At long last there is universal health care in the US - we've finally caught up with the rest of the developed world in that respect. Gay rights have also improved a lot throughout the decade. But a lot of things have changed for the worse. Campaign finance reform has gone backwards instead of forwards. Our system of governance has proven itself to be completely dysfunctional, if there was ever any doubt before. We were already a very unequal society 10 years ago - income and wealth inequality have only risen this past decade. And as a result of systemic fraudulent business practices from the financial industry, our financial system and economy has all but collapsed, and no one has really even been put on trial for what they've done.

So on balance, I would say things have changed for the worse. We are looking more and more like a banana republic by the day.

I can't believe it's been 10 years, I remember watching the second plane hit live on TV in school. It still feels surreal. MushroomWig

The only thing that changed in my opinion is now I get my junk fondled at the airport. Atleast I don't have to pay them when it is done. :lol: :PF22_King_Raptor

The only thing that changed in my opinion is now I get my junk fondled at the airport. Atleast I don't have to pay them when it is done. :lol: :PF22_King_Raptor

[QUOTE="F22_King_Raptor"]The only thing that changed in my opinion is now I get my junk fondled at the airport. Atleast I don't have to pay them when it is done. :lol: :PPlanet_Pluto

[QUOTE="ionusX"]ipersonnaly think that obama needs to be impeached and that perry should drop out of the runnings if he has any idea fo what the USA needs.worlock77

And what, pray tell, would he be impeached for?

i explianed this in a later post hes done nothing which is just as bad as making things worse when the US is in such dire straits.

I've heard enough about 9/11 to last me a dozen lifetimes.:? Please! make it stop:cry:

[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="F22_King_Raptor"]The only thing that changed in my opinion is now I get my junk fondled at the airport. Atleast I don't have to pay them when it is done. :lol: :Psurrealnumber5

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]ipersonnaly think that obama needs to be impeached and that perry should drop out of the runnings if he has any idea fo what the USA needs.ionusX

And what, pray tell, would he be impeached for?

i explianed this in a later post hes done nothing which is just as bad as making things worse when the US is in such dire straits.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

And what, pray tell, would he be impeached for?

surrealnumber5

i explianed this in a later post hes done nothing which is just as bad as making things worse when the US is in such dire straits.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

i explianed this in a later post hes done nothing which is just as bad as making things worse when the US is in such dire straits.

POPEYE1716

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]peoples attitudes never changed, the economy is still bad..so from being bad to still bad is not a changeairshocker

The economy wasn't bad 10 years ago.

If only we can go back to Bill Clinton's economy.

Before the tax cuts.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]peoples attitudes never changed, the economy is still bad..so from being bad to still bad is not a changeBlue-Sky

The economy wasn't bad 10 years ago.

If only we can go back to Bill Clinton's economy.

Before the tax cuts.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]ipersonnaly think that obama needs to be impeached and that perry should drop out of the runnings if he has any idea fo what the USA needs.ionusX

And what, pray tell, would he be impeached for?

i explianed this in a later post hes done nothing which is just as bad as making things worse when the US is in such dire straits.

I don't think you understand what impeachment is or how it works. Most people don't. You can't impeach him just because you don't like him. In order for a president to be impeached he has to have done something illegal first. And even then impeachment is next-to-meaningless. All impeachment is is a formal recognition of wrongdoing and an "all go" to begin proccedings to remove him from office. Even at that the process could take years and the President may well serve out his entire term before it ever comes to the removal from office part. Case in point: Bill Clinton.

I don't feel any different and don't really care.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]peoples attitudes never changed, the economy is still bad..so from being bad to still bad is not a changeBlue-Sky

The economy wasn't bad 10 years ago.

If only we can go back to Bill Clinton's economy.

Before the tax cuts.

Airport security has been bumped around the world, not saying its a bad thing, but some stuff is out of controll. Tweezers are banned from carry-ons now? What am I going to do, make over some one to death? :lol:

I live in Canada so the event wasent really a heart hitter, but I did my silence to the ones who were lost. I'm unaffected by it now.

9/11 anniversary, huh? Strange. On my calendar I have it marked as first day of Sunday Football...mrmusicman247

First thing I thought too.

Less civil liberties, that's for damn sure.