Republicans & Tea Party need to set an example in order to be credible

1. All political office-holding Republicans/Tea Party Members should immediately give up their taxpayer funded healthcare.

2. The Republican and Tea Party, um... parties, must dissolve themselves.

This way, they will have credibility when demanding American's get Health Insurance on their own and demanding Unions be outlawed.

Otheriwse, they are hypocrites. Because they ARE Unions and they ARE recieving free Healthcare paid for by taxes.

That's all really. They do those two things and I'll start listening. Otherwise, they're a sad joke.

1. All political office-holding Republicans/Tea Party Members should immediately give up their taxpayer funded healthcare.

2. The Republican and Tea Party, um... parties, must dissolve themselves.

This way, they will have credibility when demanding American's get Health Insurance on their own and demanding Unions be outlawed.

Otheriwse, they are hypocrites. Because they ARE Unions and they ARE recieving free Healthcare paid for by taxes.

That's all really. They do those two things and I'll start listening. Otherwise, they're a sad joke.

Netherscourge

If congressmen were forced into the private health market we would already have universal health care. It would be hilarious seeing 3/4 of them denied any insurance coverage, which can bankrupt even moderately wealthy people if they have a serious condition.

tea party is kind of a joke, most of the members don't even know the basics about the constitution.

When the hell did the Tea Party become an actual party?

When the hell did the Tea Party become an actual party?

Necrifer

The Tea Party has been around quite a long time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiaI63pBmLs

1. All political office-holding Republicans/Tea Party Members should immediately give up their taxpayer funded healthcare.

2. The Republican and Tea Party, um... parties, must dissolve themselves.

This way, they will have credibility when demanding American's get Health Insurance on their own and demanding Unions be outlawed.

Otheriwse, they are hypocrites. Because they ARE Unions and they ARE recieving free Healthcare paid for by taxes.

That's all really. They do those two things and I'll start listening. Otherwise, they're a sad joke.

Netherscourge

Yea, comparing unions to parties is a joke. Although I do think parties should dissolve all around, but that is just my opinion.

As for the taxpayer funded healthcare for the office-holders. Did you really make that assumption? They are given Healthcare by the government, but they still have to pay for it with their money. Taxes pay their salaries, and even that is taxed. For it to be even.

Basically, they are not hypocrites, because everything you said is completely wrong.

Unions are the real jokes, unions are slowly but surely bring the United States republic to the ground.

halo1399

You're aware that union membership is only a tiny fraction of what it used to be, right?

Here is a Bureau of Labor Statistics report from 2007. Unions made up 12.1% of all workers.

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When the hell did the Tea Party become an actual party?

menes777

The Tea Party has been around quite a long time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiaI63pBmLs

"If you don't, the New World Order will infect with... the Gay Agenda'!"
"Ahhhhhhhhh!"

:lol:

i'm still confused by the name "tea party". when they say "party" are they meaning it literally as a political party like the democratic/republican parties or is it meant to hint at things like the boston tea party where the "party" was just a gathering of people, not a political party. if it is the latter than what does the "tea" mean? i've head it referred to as an acronym for "taxed enough already" but that would only really work if the party was meant to refer to the former. so it would be the "taxed enough already party" and any similarity to the boston tea ( actual tea, not an acronym ) party ( event, not political party ) would merely be a coincidence but not meant to be taken that way... it's like calling your political party the "birthday party" but expecting people to get that you're talking about a political organization and not a social event. naming fail.. :?

Netherscourge

1. All political office-holding Republicans/Tea Party Members should immediately give up their taxpayer funded healthcare.

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"] YellowOneKinobi

1. All political office-holding Republicans/Tea Party Members should immediately give up their taxpayer funded healthcare.

Why? Democrats aren't trying to steal anyone's Healthcare - Republicans/Tea Party are.

Democrats would rather give all Americans the same Healthcare they get.

Republicans/Tea Party are the greedy ones that want it all for themselves. They are the ones who must set the example before they can start dictating who is allowed to have Healthcare and who isn't.

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

Netherscourge

1. All political office-holding Republicans/Tea Party Members should immediately give up their taxpayer funded healthcare.

Why? Democrats aren't trying to steal anyone's Healthcare - Republicans/Tea Party are.

Democrats would rather give all Americans the same Healthcare they get.

Republicans/Tea Party are the greedy ones that want it all for themselves. They are the ones who must set the example before they can start dictating who is allowed to have Healthcare and who isn't.

Just a few things:
Nearly all full-timesalariedemployees get healthcare whether in the public or private sector, it's part of their compensation; if a person gets paid 45k/yr and 5k/yr in health care benefits, they're actually being paid 50k/yr, there is no such thing as "free" healthcare no matter who your employer is. They just pay you less so they can use that money to pay for healthcare.
I also don't believe you understand what a "union" is. A "union" is a group of working who have collective bargaining rights in negotiating salaries and benefits. Wisconsin is in a lot of trouble right now because state employees have "union" demanding to keep benefits at a level that the state can no longer afford to pay; you can thank the democratic party for that.

Its pretty much common knowledge that the Tea Party base are ill-informed people that have little clue of politics... The fact that Sarah Palin is still the spiritual head of the movement is proof of this.. sSubZerOo

Just a few things:
Nearly all full-timesalariedemployees get healthcare whether in the public or private sector, it's part of their compensation; if a person gets paid 45k/yr and 5k/yr in health care benefits, they're actually being paid 50k/yr, there is no such thing as "free" healthcare no matter who your employer is. They just pay you less so they can use that money to pay for healthcare.
I also don't believe you understand what a "union" is. A "union" is a group of working who have collective bargaining rights in negotiating salaries and benefits. Wisconsin is in a lot of trouble right now because state employees have "union" demanding to keep benefits at a level that the state can no longer afford to pay; you can thank the democratic party for that.

Amber084

Get out of here with your damnable logic and reasoning. Don't you understand the purpose of this thread (and about a 100 a week like it) is so the kiddies on gamespot can show how hip and cool they are by bashing the repubs and the tea party?

OUT, I say. Get out now.

*disclaimer* the above admonition for the user Amber084 to get out of this thread was meant as sarcasm. just in case you were wondering.

Political parties are not unions, and the "Tea Party" is neither.

How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

Political parties are not unions, and the "Tea Party" is neither.

coolbeans90

How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

aransom

How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

aransom

How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

aransom

Lack of good schools

How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

[QUOTE="aransom"]

How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

Kcube

Lack of good schools

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How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

Lack of good schools

1. All political office-holding Republicans/Tea Party Members should immediately give up their taxpayer funded healthcare.

2. The Republican and Tea Party, um... parties, must dissolve themselves.

This way, they will have credibility when demanding American's get Health Insurance on their own and demanding Unions be outlawed.

Otheriwse, they are hypocrites. Because they ARE Unions and they ARE recieving free Healthcare paid for by taxes.

That's all really. They do those two things and I'll start listening. Otherwise, they're a sad joke.

[QUOTE="halo1399"]

Unions are the real jokes, unions are slowly but surely bring the United States republic to the ground.

superfluidity

You're aware that union membership is only a tiny fraction of what it used to be, right?

Here is a Bureau of Labor Statistics report from 2007. Unions made up 12.1% of all workers.

Unions know how to fight too. Can't deny that.

Democrat urges unions to 'get a little bloody when necessary'

O Ninja-Hippo, you deleted that post about the liberal fellow before I could respond :P

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

1. All political office-holding Republicans/Tea Party Members should immediately give up their taxpayer funded healthcare.

2. The Republican and Tea Party, um... parties, must dissolve themselves.

This way, they will have credibility when demanding American's get Health Insurance on their own and demanding Unions be outlawed.

Otheriwse, they are hypocrites. Because they ARE Unions and they ARE recieving free Healthcare paid for by taxes.

That's all really. They do those two things and I'll start listening. Otherwise, they're a sad joke.

Wolls

O Ninja-Hippo, you deleted that post about the liberal fellow before I could respond :P

limpbizkit818

I just don't understand how so many Republicans can be so "constitutional" yet still oppose unions and healthcare, have they read the freaking FIRST SENTENCE of the U.S. Constitution?

It's almost as if a lot of them just read the second amendment and threw everything else out.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Its pretty much common knowledge that the Tea Party base are ill-informed people that have little clue of politics... The fact that Sarah Palin is still the spiritual head of the movement is proof of this.. Amber084

IF this weren't the case why are people like Bachman and Palin the heads? Who they themselves do not even basic knowledge of US history.. And yet people affiliate themselves with that?.. These are people chosen by popularity within the Tea Party... So for the supposedly "informed" Tea Party.. Why are they affiliating themselves with the party? Why havn't they broke off and founded a different group?

I just don't understand how so many Republicans can be so "constitutional" yet still oppose unions and healthcare, have they read the freaking FIRST SENTENCE of the U.S. Constitution?

It's almost as if a lot of them just read the second amendment and threw everything else out.

Mr_Alexander

[QUOTE="Mr_Alexander"]

I just don't understand how so many Republicans can be so "constitutional" yet still oppose unions and healthcare, have they read the freaking FIRST SENTENCE of the U.S. Constitution?

It's almost as if a lot of them just read the second amendment and threw everything else out.

aransom

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[QUOTE="Mr_Alexander"]

I just don't understand how so many Republicans can be so "constitutional" yet still oppose unions and healthcare, have they read the freaking FIRST SENTENCE of the U.S. Constitution?

It's almost as if a lot of them just read the second amendment and threw everything else out.

Ninja-Hippo

Just interjecting here. The first fellow ain't one of us yanks; he is not like us. Nevertheless, he brought up the issue of constitutionality and consequently old dead people. Given that the basis of U.S. Federal law derives from the constitution, it is rather inevitable that what they wrote is of consequence when referring to said matters. (as the entire legal framework is based around what these men wrote, and many of said provisions are highly interdependent) Simply discarding what was written in exchange for an alternative interpretation kind of makes the law itself rather inconcrete. (as it becomes essentially subjective) Thiswould cause a far greater amount of legal clusterf***s than the number that currently exist.If what these dead men wrote is problematic in a modern setting, thenthere are legal provisions to change the law. (granted, that can be a rather lengthy and difficult process)

+1 on pragmatism though.

1. All political office-holding Republicans/Tea Party Members should immediately give up their taxpayer funded healthcare.

2. The Republican and Tea Party, um... parties, must dissolve themselves.

This way, they will have credibility when demanding American's get Health Insurance on their own and demanding Unions be outlawed.

Otheriwse, they are hypocrites. Because they ARE Unions and they ARE recieving free Healthcare paid for by taxes.

That's all really. They do those two things and I'll start listening. Otherwise, they're a sad joke.

[QUOTE="aransom"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Alexander"]

I just don't understand how so many Republicans can be so "constitutional" yet still oppose unions and healthcare, have they read the freaking FIRST SENTENCE of the U.S. Constitution?

It's almost as if a lot of them just read the second amendment and threw everything else out.

Ninja-Hippo

How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

aransom

[QUOTE="aransom"]

How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="aransom"]

How does a party with a lack of credibility pick up 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats, 7 Governors, and more than 700 seats in state legislatures?

Amber084

why not ask for democrats against school vouchers to take their kids out of private school as an example. or demand kerry,dole,pelosi,albright,graham,levin,byrd, waxman and all the other dems complaining along with the republicans about wmd in iraq to stop putting blame on one person for something they supported.

obviously there is no hypocrisy in the democratic party.they each spread their own wealth to the less fortunate on a daily basis.i think the only way to have any credible party is to turn off the jewish money printer.

I've not heard one person defend the Republicans rights to taxpayer funded Healthcare while they work to kill universal healthcare for all Americans.

Why don't the conservatives demand their own leaders set this example? Afraid to point out the hypocrisy of their own party line?

I am fairly certain Congress' health benefits are paid out of their pocket, deducted from every paycheck should they choose to participate in the health care plan available to them (as well as retirement plans). I know this is hard to understand, especially those who have not entered the "real world" yet, but most people with health care plans also pay for it, pre-tax, from their paychecks, just like those evil Republican congressmen.cametall

You give me a perfect chance to link everyone to what kind of health care Congress gets and someone asked about earlier. Health Care for U.S. Congress, Politicians Receive the Country's Best Care - at Taxpayers' Expense details everything.

As was said earlier, Congress should drop the taxpayer subsidized health care they get now and enter plans per their new health care law otherwise known as Obamacare.

Depending on where you look, the Tea Party was started based on the Boston Tea Party and is considered conservative and libertarian but is not a political party.The Tea Party Patriots are a nonpartisan grassroots organization that areunited by core values derived from the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States of America, the Bill Of Rights as explained in the Federalist Papers.

Depending on where you look, the Tea Party was started based on the Boston Tea Party and is considered conservative and libertarian but is not a political party.The Tea Party Patriots are a nonpartisan grassroots organization that areunited by core values derived from the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States of America, the Bill Of Rights as explained in the Federalist Papers.

WhiteKnight77