Pope Francis: Children are never a mistake

Well, I for one grew up in poverty, most of the times not having more than half a bowl of rice a day to eat, no hot water, abusive parents, shitty childhood...and now I'm living a great life; I own my own company, have a wonderful wife, do whatever I want and am as happy as can be so I'm glad I was given the chance to live even though my parents didn't have the means (or ability) to raise me properly.

I'm glad you're happy. That's a wonderful ending.

Not everybody is like that, though. There are, unfortunately, far more unhappy stories.

Which feelings do you speak of? The feelings it's capable of having depend on the stage on which the fetus is. I wouldn't say death is a better fate than life.

@airshocker: My point is that you never know which will be which. Starving kids can grow up happy, and rich kids can end up shooting themselves in the face.

What specific feelings matter when something isn't capable of having them?

Francis knows his shit.

@korvus: I'm not disputing that. I simply think it's much more humane to not even roll the dice.

Yep, although I wish that more people would not gamble a pregnancy to begin with...it's not that easy to become pregnant by accident if you take precautions.

@korvus: Yeah. For sure.

Pain? Is that not what's being avoided in your case when saying it's worse to bring a child and to let it suffer?

I don't think a barely formed fetus feels any pain.

No harm done :P

I won't deny my proclivity to pick fights with liberals and have feasts of derision and contempt for their ideology, something that shouldn't surprise given the permeating dominance of liberalism. This shouldn't be interpreted as an association with conservatism or right-wing ideology; I'm anything but a conservative and if I had to choose between the two, liberalism would win in a heartbeat. In fact I was at some point in my life a self-proclaimed liberal in a place that equates liberalism with blasphemy, quite peaceably mind you through insidious alienation and marginalization.

Without beating around the bushes, and irrespective of the particular discords I have with it, liberalism has become too mainstreamed to maintain the actual properties of an ideology. It has become the off-the-shelf ideology for every wet behind the ear fuckwit wanting others to fancy him as elevated and refined. Intellect no longer has worthy and many companions when everyone can fill his container with something that can be summed up in one word: anarchy. It is liberalism that made of morality a subjective construct open to equally valid interpretations, and it is that very same thing that made of virtue archaic and antiquated twaddle.

As everything that comes into being starts to disintegrate into some amorphous being with a loose fabric after having attained its climax, so is liberalism following that very same process. The current prosperity of liberal societies are not the product of their labor; it is the fruit of the labor of their fathers being wasted gradually until nothing is left of it.

I have one of those every now and then. Which one are you referring to so I can save it for next time? =P

Thread title made me laugh out loud.

On a daily basis I always manage to see some unkempt fat woman and man wearing sweatpants with six kids in tow. Two words pop into my head: mistake and dumbasses.

**** you Pope Francis. Quit promoting stupidity.

I'm sure the baby born with a horrifying genetic defect that makes it die an excruciating and unimaginably terrible death mere minutes after birth was part of god's special plan.

Please, don't question God's work. He works in mysterious ways.

@Master_Live said:

@darkmark91 said:

It sure is a blessing when a rapist impregnates a girl....

It's a gift from God.

And the rapist was the deliverer from God too. =p