Pillheads

Pills? I can think of far worse probabilities, such as Meth or Crack Cocaine. I take 20 pills a day... I'm fine.

Pills? I can think of far worse probabilities, such as Meth or Crack Cocaine. I take 20 pills a day... I'm fine.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

While I'm sure that happens to an extent, the other side is pain management is simply really f*cking difficult: we know that on the whole modern medicine doesn't do enough to manage pain, and on top of that there are neurological and psychological components to pain that we still don't understand -- you can't just say "stop doing that thing that makes your back hurt" because there isn't necessarily a physiological cause of that back pain (no matter how real and excruciating and debilitating it is). So even if you have a doctor with the utmost integrity and an encyclopedic knowledge of pain and pain management, there's still a decent chance they'll prescribe the wrong pills to the wrong person.

br0kenrabbit

Ever heard of a 'pill mill'?

They're quite a problems because yes, some people do need pain management. However, some doctors don't even need to hear your story or see your records, if you go to one of these pill mills and just say "I need pain meds", they'll write you a script.

People have lived with pain since like forever. Yes, I am in agreement that some pain needs to be treated, but not every minor ache or throb.

I know a majority of my my ol' high school friends pop Oxycotons, have to separate myself from them : /

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Itching and dry mouth are a long way from tooth loss and picking at your skin.

worlock77

Those were listed side-effects for when taking the medication as-prescribed. Over long-term use and in combination the effects exacerbate because the user increases dosage as tolerance is built.

I do not believe for one second that the condition of the woman you spoke of was simply due to overuse of prescription drugs alone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_parasitosis

http://blackpoppymag.wordpress.com/a-z-of-health/stimulant-induced-skin-picking/

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Pills? I can think of far worse probabilities, such as Meth or Crack Cocaine. I take 20 pills a day... I'm fine.

Fightingfan

Assuming it works the same as cocaine, let alone crack cocaine.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Pills? I can think of far worse probabilities, such as Meth or Crack Cocaine. I take 20 pills a day... I'm fine.

Fightingfan

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I do not believe for one second that the condition of the woman you spoke of was simply due to overuse of prescription drugs alone.

br0kenrabbit

I've seen it first-hand, I can believe it. But I never said she hasn't done anything else:

I'm not saying she hasn't done meth, but meth isn't listed as a charge, pills are a really big problem in this area, and we know 100% that pills were involved in this arrest.

br0kenrabbit

It takes a lot longer for pills to degrade a person than meth or amphetamines, but it does happen eventually. We can speculate all we want, but the facts of the case are that the arrest was for Schedule VI drugs.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Pills? I can think of far worse probabilities, such as Meth or Crack Cocaine. I take 20 pills a day... I'm fine.

22Toothpicks

You either took a pill that was fake, cut, or an extremely low dose. Also, I'm not "calling it that", that's exactly what it is, it's a man made narcotic that derives from poppy and heroin.

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Oxycodone is an opiate, legal synthetic cocaine.

Fightingfan

You either took a pill that was fake, cut, or an extremely low dose. Also, I'm not "calling it that", that's exactly what it is, it's a man made narcotic that derives from poppy and heroin.

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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"] *opioid and calling it synthetic cocaine is crazy; it's nothing like cocaine (at least not in my experience)22Toothpicks

You either took a pill that was fake, cut, or an extremely low dose. Also, I'm not "calling it that", that's exactly what it is, it's a man made narcotic that derives from poppy and heroin.

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

You either took a pill that was fake, cut, or an extremely low dose. Also, I'm not "calling it that", that's exactly what it is, it's a man made narcotic that derives from poppy and heroin.

Fightingfan

22Toothpicks

*Anyways. Do the real stuff, Oxy no good and it's expensive(Granted you're not the one farming).

*Jesus Christ my spelling is atroccious today.

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"]Fightingfan

*Anyways. Do the real stuff, Oxy no good an it's expensive(Granted you're not the one farming).

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"]22Toothpicks

*Anyways. Do the real stuff, Oxy no good an it's expensive(Granted you're not the one farming).

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] I think I know something about you know, but I can't say.

*Anyways. Do the real stuff, Oxy no good an it's expensive(Granted you're not the one farming).

Fightingfan

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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"] >_> i haven't done any drugs in years; 4 years sober and still going strong22Toothpicks

and there is no way you know what law enforcement agency i use to work for

your lies might work on the more niave but not me, kind sir, not me...

and there is no way you know what law enforcement agency i use to work for

your lies might work on the more niave but not me, kind sir, not me...

22Toothpicks

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"]

and there is no way you know what law enforcement agency i use to work for

your lies might work on the more niave but not me, kind sir, not me...

Fightingfan

I really don't see why any doctor would prescribe Oxy TBH for therapy. It'll turn most people in a coke-head.Fightingfan

Depending on the therapy, it could be extremely painful. I have a long history with opiate based painkillers, relating to a medical condition. I can see how it could be easy to get hooked on them. I'm confident that the only reason I never became dependant on them was because I did one thing. I followed the f%$@ing directions on the bottle. People become dependant on the drugs because they start taking more than they are supposed to. I don't like it when people demonize painkillers because people start going against what their doctor tells them, which gets them hooked on them. I know for a fact that painkillers saved my life in many ways, they are miracle drugs.

I live in Florida, aka pill nation. We sell Xanal like candy bars around here. People come from all over the nation just to easily get pills from corrupt doctors and sell them. This "War on Drugs" is such a joke it can't even be overstated. Nobody is calling out these pharmasceutical companies because chances are they have inside deals going on with particular members in office. But pshh, what do we know...

Pills is very vague.

toast_burner

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Pills is very vague.

double_decker

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I really don't see why any doctor would prescribe Oxy TBH for therapy. It'll turn most people in a coke-head.DJ419

Depending on the therapy, it could be extremely painful. I have a long history with opiate based painkillers, relating to a medical condition. I can see how it could be easy to get hooked on them. I'm confident that the only reason I never became dependant on them was because I did one thing. I followed the f%$@ing directions on the bottle. People become dependant on the drugs because they start taking more than they are supposed to. I don't like it when people demonize painkillers because people start going against what their doctor tells them, which gets them hooked on them. I know for a fact that painkillers saved my life in many ways, they are miracle drugs.

I was on Oxy, 160mg a day for eight years (I have a medical condition also which causes chronic pain) and I disagree with the above. I became very dependant on them and I took no more than was RxD for all that time. I was very physically and mentally dependant. That was by far the strongest sh!t I've ever been on and it turned me into a lethargic zombie (at least until my next dose which would wake me up for two hours, then I'd have six to wait for more). I decided to detox, that was a lot of fun, and now I'm on a low dose of Vicodin. I'm not dependant on them, but Oxy was an entirely different story. They can be miracle drugs, but I'd say only as a last resort or in extreme moderation.

Though as far as teeth falling out, picking skin....this is news to me that narcotics do this.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I really don't see why any doctor would prescribe Oxy TBH for therapy. It'll turn most people in a coke-head.DJ419

Depending on the therapy, it could be extremely painful. I have a long history with opiate based painkillers, relating to a medical condition. I can see how it could be easy to get hooked on them. I'm confident that the only reason I never became dependant on them was because I did one thing. I followed the f%$@ing directions on the bottle. People become dependant on the drugs because they start taking more than they are supposed to. I don't like it when people demonize painkillers because people start going against what their doctor tells them, which gets them hooked on them. I know for a fact that painkillers saved my life in many ways, they are miracle drugs.

Dependence and addiction are two different things. It isn't very hard to become dependent on a medication, in my experience.

I wouldn't know. Had a family member who was addicted to pills though. Also to alcohol. Was very saddave123321

but I'm not happy footing the bill for people I think gave up their right to free health care by choosing to destroy their bodies.Zeviander

I understand the sentiment and all, but can we really have a health system that says "okay take these drugs to get better" and then turn around and say "oh you got addicted to the pills we told you to take? Not our problem, you're on your own!"?

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] but I'm not happy footing the bill for people I think gave up their right to free health care by choosing to destroy their bodies._BlueDuck_

I understand the sentiment and all, but can we really have a health system that says "okay take these drugs to get better" and then turn around and say "oh you got addicted to the pills we told you to take? Not our problem, you're on your own!"?

Pills are used a lot as opposed to liquit

Although i am not against drugs, I do think they age people really badly.

I think once you have had your fair share in experimenting, you should turn to other methods for recreation.

i feel sorry for people who could not grow out of their adolescence.