OT Do you consider calling someone of German descent a Nazi to be a racial slur?

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#1 -Big_Red-
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When I was a Junior in high school there was a German exchange student. And she was really, realy nice, andcute. Heres a pic from her public myspace.

Dana.

Anyway, one of my best friends who could b described as alittle, funny, horny, slightly nerdy black guy started dating her. And people would poke fun at them telling him that he was dating a dating, and a Jew killer. They were just joking, but still. I started thnking to myself would that be considered a racial slur if someone meant it in that way.

I'm the kind of black guy who doesn't really care when people call me the N word. It's just a word to me. Although I don't know how I would take it if someone meant it in a racist, and hateful fashion. Because that has ever happened to me. Sooo...... I guess I'll just have to wait, and see.

Your thoughts?

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#2 freedomfreak
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It is offensive though.

People said I was a nazi because I listened to Rammstein.

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#3 RobboElRobbo
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Pic seems unnecessary

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#4 -Big_Red-
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Pic seems unnecessary

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I agree. Just a little.
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#5 Blu_Falcon37
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Saying it to someone who either lives in or has lived in Germany for some time, I'd say yes. But to me (mostly German background) who has lived in the US my whole life, no.

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#6 scorch-62
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How does that entail race, like, AT ALL?
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#7 Colin1192
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im sure she appreciates you posting her picture on the forums of a gaming site.

I also found you putting the fact that you're black to be unnecessary

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#8 -Big_Red-
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im sure she appreciates you posting her picture on the forums of a gaming site.

I also found you putting the fact that you're black to be unnecessary

Colin1192

How was the black part unecessary, I was just giving my perspective on what racial sluts mean to me being of African descent.

And quit being a Negative Nancy.

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#9 -Big_Red-
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How does that entail race, like, AT ALL?scorch-62
Im not referring to Neo-Nazi's at all. Im talking about the original Nazis... You know, from Germany?
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#10 Hexagon_777
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How does that entail race, like, AT ALL?scorch-62
If they are a German of the Aryan race, then...:o

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#11 way2funny
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How does that entail race, like, AT ALL?scorch-62

You are implying you are better than a nazi (someone of the ayrian race or whatever). Which is the definition of racism, thinking your race or a group of races is better than another.

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#12 aransom
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Nazi is a political term, so I wouldn't consider it a racial slur. But you shouldn't call someone a Nazi unless you mean to offend them.

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#13 Hexagon_777
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I do not call Africans the N word so I don't call Germans the N word either.

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#14 fidosim
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Fear not. All Nazi means nowadays is, "someone who I disagree with," or, "someone who has authority over me."
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#15 Hexagon_777
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Fear not. All Nazi means nowadays is, "someone who I disagree with," or, "someone who has authority over me."fidosim
Or "German" to some people.

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#16 T_P_O
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]How does that entail race, like, AT ALL?way2funny

You are implying you are better than a nazi (someone of the ayrian race or whatever). Which is the definition of racism, thinking your race or a group of races is better than another.

A "Nazi" is a member of the National Socialist German Workers Party, or colloquially, someone with extreme racial prejudice and/or authoritarian values. The ideal of the Nazi party was the Aryan race (so called "master race"), they themselves did not have to be Aryan. Oh, and no, I believe the word the OP is looking for is prejudice, or possibly touting some old-ass stereotype from post-war times. Doesn't seem to be racism, to me at least.
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#17 JudgementEden
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[QUOTE="Colin1192"]

im sure she appreciates you posting her picture on the forums of a gaming site.

I also found you putting the fact that you're black to be unnecessary

-Big_Red-

How was the black part unecessary, I was just giving my perspective on what racial sluts mean to me being of African descent.

And quit being a Negative Nancy.

:lol:

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#18 GabuEx
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As nationality is not race, it would be literally impossible for an insult towards one's nationality to be a racial slur.

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#19 SaudiFury
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Fear not. All Nazi means nowadays is, "someone who I disagree with," or, "someone who has authority over me."fidosim
lmao... this made me laugh. heh. ------------- calling someone of German descent is a nazi i would say IS offensive, unless of course... they really were a nazi (which isn't exclusive to being German). I knew a girl at college who was the great grand daughter of Heinrich Himmler (yeah....)
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#20 surrealnumber5
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its a xenophobic slur not a racial slur
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#21 ice144
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I don't get the reason for the pic. I wouldn't just post other people's faces on random websites.
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#22 Foolio1
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How does that entail race, like, AT ALL?scorch-62

That's what I was wondering coming in to this thread. I was hoping someone had asked this before I did so thank you :P

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#23 deactivated-59d151f079814
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im sure she appreciates you posting her picture on the forums of a gaming site.

I also found you putting the fact that you're black to be unnecessary

Colin1192

Well to be fair if she has her pictures up on facebook... Then its fair game.

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#24 GD-1369211121
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Calling someone a Nazi could possibly be offensive to some people. I wouldn't consider it a racial slur though.

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#25 PernicioEnigma
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Nazi is a political term, so I wouldn't consider it a racial slur. But you shouldn't call someone a Nazi unless you mean to offend them.

aransom
but they're calling her a Nazi because she is German, so because of that wouldn't it qualify as a racial slur?
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#26 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]

[QUOTE="Colin1192"]

im sure she appreciates you posting her picture on the forums of a gaming site.

I also found you putting the fact that you're black to be unnecessary

JudgementEden

How was the black part unecessary, I was just giving my perspective on what racial sluts mean to me being of African descent.

And quit being a Negative Nancy.

:lol:

Doooohh!!! Stupid iPhone OS spelling correction!!! :x
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#27 yabbicoke
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No, neither being a Nazi or German is a race. I would consider that INSANELY offensive, though...
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#28 rcignoni
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Not racial, but still extremely offensive.
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#29 -Big_Red-
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I don't get the reason for the pic. I wouldn't just post other people's faces on random websites.ice144
It's not like it's a derogatory pic or anything, plus she had her pic on a public social networking site, you don't know her name, her address, or anything. It's just a face everyone has one. And everyones is visible. Quit being so sensitive
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#30 -Big_Red-
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No, neither being a Nazi or German is a race. I would consider that INSANELY offensive, though...yabbicoke
Well I didn't literally mean race. Like people consider calling a black person the N word to be a racial slur, or calling a Japanese person a *** to be a racial slur in some instances. Even though they're not really races, just ethnicities.
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#31 tonberry007
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Unless he/she is doing something really racist it is offensive, yes.

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#32 Thatonedude5432
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Just because ur German doesn't mean your a Nazi. Its a political party.
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#33 Murj
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Heres a pic from her public myspace.-Big_Red-

That creeped me out loads lol.

But yeah it's offensive in a lot of scenarios

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#34 Jph625
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its called the truth LAWL...jk thats ignorant...its ignorant

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#35 majoras_wrath
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By saying it's racism its almost like you're accepting the Nazi notion of there being a "german" race. Which, uh, there isn't.

That is obnoxiously offensive however. Especially since people used to make fun of my very much german last name by calling me a nazi, even though they knew I'm Jewish :/

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#36 JasonDarksavior
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I don't think it's a racial slur but surely it's offensive to a very high degree.
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#37 0Tyler0
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People go for anything to make fun of. Easiest one for Germans is Nazis nowadays. Which doesn't even make sense, since all Nazis are old now and Germany is completely different. It's not like all the Germans at that time were Nazis either.
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#38 00-Riddick-00
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Im part german... But i have never been called a nazi..
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#39 Everiez
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No, not racial slur if I give it a minute to think about it but certainly offensive. If I were a German, I would be offended and most likely too busy suppressing or expressing my anger than spare a minute to think if Nazi is racial slur or not.

As some poster said, that pic is unnecessary.

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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Nothing to do with racism.....and equating Germans to Nazis is flat out wrong.
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#41 lol_haha_dead
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You call that thing "cute"? She's really ugly dude...
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#42 incred_davis
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izz it just me or how is calling a nazi an a slur?

hey you murdered a bunch of people... take that! usually a slur is something bad (race- black ppl, stereotype- mexican, short-commings- asians) about someone, but killing a bunch of people isnt really in that catagory (although not good.. its not something that a german would take offense to). im german and if someone called me a nazi id laugh.. not be offended.

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#43 jaqulle999
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Pic seems unnecessary

RobboElRobbo
Pics are never unnecessary. Anyway I have a friend from Germany and I call him a nazi all the time, and yeah its racist.
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#44 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]

By saying it's racism its almost like you're accepting the Nazi notion of there being a "german" race. Which, uh, there isn't.

That is obnoxiously offensive however. Especially since people used to make fun of my very much german last name by calling me a nazi, even though they knew I'm Jewish :/

That not what I mean. People always say that the KK is racist towards non-whites even though whites/blackls/hispanics/etc are stll the same race. I guess that I kind of used the wrong term for it. My mistake.
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#45 jun_aka_pekto
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It sure is a racial slur, joking or not.

I've been to Germany. I've been friends with Germans. They're definitely not Nazis. It sucks that it's part of their history. But, I don't hold Germans accountable for the past. It's the same thing with the Japanese*. If they're friendly (which most people are) to me then I return the favor.

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*My father might still hold a grudge even if he said he doesn't anymore. Not me, though. We're not going to get anywhere if we don't forgive or live and let live.

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#46 dissonantblack
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absolutely i do.

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#47 -Big_Red-
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izz it just me or how is calling a nazi an a slur?

hey you murdered a bunch of people... take that! usually a slur is something bad (race- black ppl, stereotype- mexican, short-commings- asians) about someone, but killing a bunch of people isnt really in that catagory (although not good.. its not something that a german would take offense to). im german and if someone called me a nazi id laugh.. not be offended.

incred_davis

Do you know just how bad the Nazi's were? To be completely honest I can only think of one human that is more evil than Hitler or any other Nazi for that matter.

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#48 -Big_Red-
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I know that the Nazis were a politica party, but it doesn't stop racist people from equating Nazis with Germans.
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#49 MgamerBD
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They call you the N word? You should pound each one of them. Do you know where your people came from? Its not just a word its much...much more.