Old School Hip-Hop and Rap vs. New Gen

The topic on the Geto Boys got me thinking. Which one do fans of the genre prefer listening to more. The classic albums which came out from the early 80's right up to the early 1990's or the ones afterwards. Cite some examples of classic acts and newer ones. I, myself, still listen more to the classic performers and their albums. There's a few rappers and artists of the last 10 years I'll listen to a lot but not much.

I mean I still will pick Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers and listen to that album over anything made by the current hip-hop groups of the last 15 years.

I absolutely hate rap and hip-hop, but even I can say that the earlier years were a lot better than the stuff out now.

I'm sure there'll be people who will put in their hate on rap in general. The funny thing is that I'm a fan of rap and metal. I see similarities in both even if haters on both sides don't. Even during the 80's when that PE album was released pretty much everyone had an idea it would be an instant classic.

i havent been listening to rap for very long but i prefer the newer stuff. i have some biggie and its alright, but lupe fiasco completely blows him away.

I love rap and I'm not holding anything against classic and old school rap, but I find myself listening to rap that is from recent years.

Of course I counting old school rap than anything before 1990. Not counting really anything in the 90's as old school.

I stopped listening to most Hip-Hop ever since I've learned that it's really a religion and not just a "genre" of music,

but I still listen to a select few. Mostly Lupe Fiasco and Tupac.

I stopped listening to most Hip-Hop ever since I've learned that it's really a religion and not just a "genre" of music,

but I still listen to a select few. Mostly Lupe Fiasco and Tupac.

Shi-ro-me

[QUOTE="Shi-ro-me"]

I stopped listening to most Hip-Hop ever since I've learned that it's really a religion and not just a "genre" of music,

but I still listen to a select few. Mostly Lupe Fiasco and Tupac.

Ace_WondersX

That one had me scratching my head. But then the way people go on about Tupac and Biggie you'd think those two had their own churches.

Enter The Wu-Tang/36 Chambers, GZA's Liquid Swords, Souls Of Mischief 93 Til Infinity, Common's Resurrection, Notoroius BIG's Ready To Die, Big L's Lifestyles of Da Poor And Dangerou; and I can name so many more.

Mostly early nineties Hip Hop is what I love to listen to. Mainstream contemporary hip hop has gone done the drain, with the exception of a few artists that have survived the times and still present lyrical content in their works.

90+ for me although it is a very close call. You got people like deltron 3030,blackstar,outkast,lupe,Aesop rock,cise star,etc.. The only problem with later rap is that the mainstream sucks.

[QUOTE="Shi-ro-me"]

I stopped listening to most Hip-Hop ever since I've learned that it's really a religion and not just a "genre" of music,

but I still listen to a select few. Mostly Lupe Fiasco and Tupac.

Ace_WondersX

If you truly look at the base of it all, yes. Afrika Bambaataa was actually the one who started it all by going to Africa and studying and living with a tribe called the Zulus, one of their leading teachings are that of self empowerment and the belief of being their own gods. He came back to New York and used Hip-Hop as a medium to spread that message. Have you ever heard people saying that Hip-Hop is a way of life? And that it's reallly a culture? A culture generally has it's own belief. Many artists now a days are affiliated with freemasonry and the Illuminati. Some are more conspicuous than other's, but that's on your part if you want to do some research on it. It's kind of difficult to believe when you first hear it, but if you really look into it you might be surprised. I know I was, not to mention I looked up to all of these artists since I was a child.

90+ for me although it is a very close call. You got people like deltron 3030,blackstar,outkast,lupe,Aesop rock,cise star,etc.. The only problem with later rap is that the mainstream sucks.

cody3232

I absolutely hate rap and hip-hop, but even I can say that the earlier years were a lot better than the stuff out now.

Legendaryscmt

90's rap > now rap except lil wayne and the hole poe boy and slip and slide the res are trash imo.deon99

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"][QUOTE="Shi-ro-me"]

I stopped listening to most Hip-Hop ever since I've learned that it's really a religion and not just a "genre" of music,

but I still listen to a select few. Mostly Lupe Fiasco and Tupac.

Shi-ro-me

If you truly look at the base of it all, yes. Afrika Bambaataa was actually the one who started it all by going to Africa and studying and living with a tribe called the Zulus, one of their leading teachings are that of self empowerment and the belief of being their own gods. He came back to New York and used Hip-Hop as a medium to spread that message. Have you ever heard people saying that Hip-Hop is a way of life? And that it's reallly a culture? A culture generally has it's own belief. Many artists now a days are affiliated with freemasonry and the Illuminati. Some are more conspicuous than other's, but that's on your part if you want to do some research on it. It's kind of difficult to believe when you first hear it, but if you really look into it you might be surprised. I know I was, not to mention I looked up to all of these artists since I was a child.

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

I absolutely hate rap and hip-hop, but even I can say that the earlier years were a lot better than the stuff out now.

12Bullets

For some old school nostalgia does make them sound better than they really are, but most classic old school rap and hip-hop were great because they hadn't been commercialized and actually had artists who knew how to rap instead of trying to sing-rap. Not to use Lil Wayne as an example all the time, but I can't even understand a majority of what he is saying or even understand what his songs are about. Not enough rappers of the newer generation who have battling in their background.

As much as Eminem has a tendency to polarize and even make a mockery of his own self the boy knows how to rhyme.

90's rap > now rap except lil wayne and the hole poe boy and slip and slide the res are trash imo.deon99

Eww.

I agree that 90s rap is better than current rap but Lil Wayne being one of the best of the new generation? Not a chance in hell.

[QUOTE="Shi-ro-me"]

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"] It's a religion?samuraiguns

If you truly look at the base of it all, yes. Afrika Bambaataa was actually the one who started it all by going to Africa and studying and living with a tribe called the Zulus, one of their leading teachings are that of self empowerment and the belief of being their own gods. He came back to New York and used Hip-Hop as a medium to spread that message. Have you ever heard people saying that Hip-Hop is a way of life? And that it's reallly a culture? A culture generally has it's own belief. Many artists now a days are affiliated with freemasonry and the Illuminati. Some are more conspicuous than other's, but that's on your part if you want to do some research on it. It's kind of difficult to believe when you first hear it, but if you really look into it you might be surprised. I know I was, not to mention I looked up to all of these artists since I was a child.

Indeed, they would have given him cupcakes made from pig testies. mmmmm

As much as Eminem has a tendency to polarize and even make a mockery of his own self the boy knows how to rhyme.

Buck_Hotep

I actually just picked up Relapse yesterday. I thought I was going to be disappointed by it, but Em still shines through. Even if he does come off as a pyscho. But anyone that can take his experiences as an addict, as a global phenom, and the trials and tribulations of his life and put them into a song and even poke fun at himself at the same time, deserves the credit.

[QUOTE="deon99"]90's rap > now rap except lil wayne and the hole poe boy and slip and slide the res are trash imo.The_Game21x

Eww.

I agree that 90s rap is better than current rap but Lil Wayne being one of the best of the new generation? Not a chance in hell.

Lil Wayne is freaking garbage. I don't understand why people like him. 90's rap is way better than the trash we hear from modern rap artists nowadays. I'm so tired of the synthesizer these rappers use in every song. It's getting ridiculous. They can't sing so they sing in a voice box. It sucks. Wake me up when these rappers are gone. Hopefully 2010 will bring on a new decade of better rappers.

This is off topic but i like pop and tecno

This is off topic but i like pop and tecno

whatpudding

LOL, well I know for a fact techno has remixed many a classic rap and hip-hop track.

Early to mid 90's hip-hop is my favorite but I still love plenty of the hip-hop coming out nowadays.

Ahh. Old school rappers like the beasties, RUN DMC, LL COOL J, etc. Will never be beat. I hate a lot of modern rap stars. Little wayne makes me facepalm. cant stand him. Same with soulja boy. I only like rap that has meaning to its lyrics, not ima gonna shoot you, then get some p***** then shoot someone then knife someone.ieatnoobs18

New Gen underground is best

[QUOTE="ieatnoobs18"]Ahh. Old school rappers like the beasties, RUN DMC, LL COOL J, etc. Will never be beat. I hate a lot of modern rap stars. Little wayne makes me facepalm. cant stand him. Same with soulja boy. I only like rap that has meaning to its lyrics, not ima gonna shoot you, then get some p***** then shoot someone then knife someone.mikeg0788

I moved on from old school. I kinda like the new gen.. or just Asher Roth

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="ieatnoobs18"]Ahh. Old school rappers like the beasties, RUN DMC, LL COOL J, etc. Will never be beat. I hate a lot of modern rap stars. Little wayne makes me facepalm. cant stand him. Same with soulja boy. I only like rap that has meaning to its lyrics, not ima gonna shoot you, then get some p***** then shoot someone then knife someone.ieatnoobs18

Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco, Lil Weezy, and T.I. can rap with the best of them.

I moved on from old school. I kinda like the new gen.. or just Asher Roth

gamah_killah

i havent been listening to rap for very long but i prefer the newer stuff. i have some biggie and its alright, but lupe fiasco completely blows him away.

curtkobain

what? no...

im not sure what old school is anymore but id say 1992-1997 had some of the greatest rap albums released. id go with the past.

[QUOTE="ieatnoobs18"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"] The fact that you compare Wayne to Soulja Boy shows just how out of touch with you reality you are. Or how ignorant. Or both.mikeg0788

As with every genre you have the good and the bad with each generation...

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="ieatnoobs18"] Not when you make an analogy as bad as that; I can't let such ignorance get away without repercussions. For the record, I love Wayne. ieatnoobs18

Little wayne makes me facepalm. cant stand him. Same with soulja boy. I only like rap that has meaning to its lyrics, not ima gonna shoot you, then get some p***** then shoot someone then knife someone.ieatnoobs18

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i havent been listening to rap for very long but i prefer the newer stuff. i have some biggie and its alright, but lupe fiasco completely blows him away.

ateace3

what? no...

im not sure what old school is anymore but id say 1992-1997 had some of the greatest rap albums released. id go with the past.

People who have studied the music consider old school as anything from mid 90's and back. New school those who follow the scene began in the late mid-90's onward once you started to get the self-made rap moguls and those artists they started grooming. Really, before 1995 there weren't much rap albums to dominate the music industry except for a few like Biggie's albums, Run DMC form the 80's, Mc Hammer, etc..

After the 1995 you started to see a shift to a more accessible form of hip-hop. Yes, Jay-Z and Nas and their like are accessible. When you look at their stuff, except for a few tracks here and there they're quite safe for the so-called White America to listen to. Old school aesthetics nowadays are found more with the underground hip-hop scene which gave birth to such artists as Talib Kwali, Mos Def, Common (early days), and others.

Well I'm more into new gen, but not like Flo Rida or Lil Wayne and all that ****. I'm more into Eminem, because lets be honest, he really is the greatest rapper who ever lived.

old school was all about the lyrics and beat now its teh stupid voice box(tpain) and catchy dances

I absolutely hate rap and hip-hop, but even I can say that the earlier years were a lot better than the stuff out now.

Legendaryscmt

I prefer anything that was 2000 and before that. People like Soulja Boy make me cringe at the thought of rap music today.

Well I'm more into new gen, but not like Flo Rida or Lil Wayne and all that ****. I'm more into Eminem, because lets be honest, he really is the greatest rapper who ever lived.

-FlyLo-

[QUOTE="ateace3"]

what? no...

im not sure what old school is anymore but id say 1992-1997 had some of the greatest rap albums released. id go with the past.

Buck_Hotep

People who have studied the music consider old school as anything from mid 90's and back. New school those who follow the scene began in the late mid-90's onward once you started to get the self-made rap moguls and those artists they started grooming. Really, before 1995 there weren't much rap albums to dominate the music industry except for a few like Biggie's albums, Run DMC form the 80's, Mc Hammer, etc..

After the 1995 you started to see a shift to a more accessible form of hip-hop. Yes, Jay-Z and Nas and their like are accessible. When you look at their stuff, except for a few tracks here and there they're quite safe for the so-called White America to listen to. Old school aesthetics nowadays are found more with the underground hip-hop scene which gave birth to such artists as Talib Kwali, Mos Def, Common (early days), and others.

You'll find a lot of differing opinions about what Old School really is. A lot of people consider Old School as being pre 1986, made up of rappers like Schoolly D, T La Rock, the Treacherous Three, the Fearless Four, the Funky 4 + 1, Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde, and Melle Mel. And then the era after that from roughly 1986 to the mid 90's is called the Golden Age. That's the pretty standard definition.

Other people, like yourself, consider anything before 1990 as being Old School.

And then you have other people who believe every past era eventually becomes Old School whenever a new group of rappers hit the scene. For example, Soulja Boy says he considers 50 Cent an Old School rapper, since 50 Cent comes from the generation before him.

I like Dr. Dre and a little 2Pac.

I can't listen to any of the new rap. It's just horrible. Especially Soulja Boy and Lil' Wayne.

i'm more into Eminem, because lets be honest, he really is the greatest rapper who ever lived.

-FlyLo-