Obama taking more dividend gains

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#1 Posted by mingmao3046 (2495 posts) -

2012 dividend tax rate = 15.0%
2013 dividend tax rate = 43.4%


http://seekingalpha.com/article/1050371-2013-dividend-tax-impacts

#2 Posted by moneymatterz (1139 posts) -

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

#3 Posted by comp_atkins (31609 posts) -

man... i don't know how the hell we had decades of prosperity before bush 2 came along and saved the economy.... ( and yes ^^ it would affect me personally )

#4 Posted by mingmao3046 (2495 posts) -

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

moneymatterz
It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas
#5 Posted by XaosII (16631 posts) -

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

mingmao3046

It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas

If you read your own article, this will have fairly small impacts. Not to mention your entire argument is simply a sensationalist fallacy.

#6 Posted by EmpCom (3451 posts) -
[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas

The rich move jobs overseas anyway because labour is cheap as sh*t which in turn saves them money which makes them richer
#7 Posted by mingmao3046 (2495 posts) -
[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas

The rich move jobs overseas anyway because labour is cheap as sh*t which in turn saves them money which makes them richer

and this higher tax will only make things worse
#8 Posted by mingmao3046 (2495 posts) -

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

XaosII

It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas

If you read your own article, this will have fairly small impacts. Not to mention your entire argument is simply a sensationalist fallacy.

If they declare income brackets based off dividends, passive income...a lot of clients will be screwed. That's just wrong. Could you imagine living 70 years, busting your balls, and then having the gov't start taxing you out the a$$ on your nest egg?
#9 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6255 posts) -

Obama is a disaster.

Libs won't learn until the western world collapses under its own weight.

#10 Posted by mingmao3046 (2495 posts) -

Obama is a disaster.

Libs won't learn until the western world collapses under its own weight.

ZombieKiller7
#11 Posted by dave123321 (34202 posts) -

Obama is a disaster.

Libs won't learn until the western world collapses under its own weight.

ZombieKiller7
Sad but true
#12 Posted by XaosII (16631 posts) -

If they declare income brackets based off dividends, passive income...a lot of clients will be screwed. That's just wrong. Could you imagine living 70 years, busting your balls, and then having the gov't start taxing you out the a$$ on your nest egg?mingmao3046

Your own article mentions how IRA's and 401-k's are unaffected.

Anyone investing in stocks or dividend stocks are doing so with an inherent risk. One of those risks among many are increased tax rates. Hey, they could've always gone to US Treasury Bonds as safe and secure investments, right? So, no, i dont have much sympathy for someone investing with their money in one of the riskier forms of investment.

That, and the higher tax rate will still only affect those earning over $250,000. Working for 70 years and earning $250,000 from passive income through dividends? I'd still be happy.

#13 Posted by moneymatterz (1139 posts) -

That, and the higher tax rate will still only affect those earning over $250,000. Working for 70 years and earning $250,000 from passive income through dividends? I'd still be happy.

XaosII

See what I mean? This dude's essentially saying, "Doesn't affect me so screw those guys."

#14 Posted by XaosII (16631 posts) -

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

That, and the higher tax rate will still only affect those earning over $250,000. Working for 70 years and earning $250,000 from passive income through dividends? I'd still be happy.

moneymatterz

See what I mean? This dude's essentially saying, "Doesn't affect me so screw those guys."

That's not what I said.

#15 Posted by Guybrush_3 (8308 posts) -

[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas mingmao3046
The rich move jobs overseas anyway because labour is cheap as sh*t which in turn saves them money which makes them richer

and this higher tax will only make things worse

how exactly?

#16 Posted by moneymatterz (1139 posts) -

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

That, and the higher tax rate will still only affect those earning over $250,000. Working for 70 years and earning $250,000 from passive income through dividends? I'd still be happy.

XaosII

See what I mean? This dude's essentially saying, "Doesn't affect me so screw those guys."

That's not what I said.

It's what you feel in your blackened heart.

#17 Posted by XaosII (16631 posts) -

It's what you feel in your blackened heart.

moneymatterz

Putting words in other people's mouths is a poor hobby.

#18 Posted by LiquidAjax (2032 posts) -
Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.
#19 Posted by cslayer211 (833 posts) -
Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.LiquidAjax
You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.
#20 Posted by GreySeal9 (24859 posts) -

This thread is a disaster zone.

#21 Posted by comp_atkins (31609 posts) -
[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.cslayer211
You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers
#22 Posted by LiquidAjax (2032 posts) -
[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.cslayer211
You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

Why wouldn't I be? He's freeing poor people from the rich.
#23 Posted by Diablo-B (4051 posts) -
This is good news, now all we have to do raise capital gains and that would have closed up many of the loop holes for the highest income earners.
#24 Posted by cslayer211 (833 posts) -
[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.comp_atkins
You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers

So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?
#25 Posted by LiquidAjax (2032 posts) -
[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers

So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

?
#26 Posted by comp_atkins (31609 posts) -
[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers

So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

i'm totally shocked as well
#27 Posted by dave123321 (34202 posts) -
[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers

So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack
#28 Posted by LiquidAjax (2032 posts) -
[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppersdave123321
So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

lol what the hell are you talking about? I voted for obama.
#29 Posted by comp_atkins (31609 posts) -
[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

lol what the hell are you talking about? I voted for obama.

lol.. you're doing it wrong. you're supposed to stop the trolling when off the internet...
#30 Posted by dave123321 (34202 posts) -
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="dave123321"] Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

lol what the hell are you talking about? I voted for obama.

lol.. you're doing it wrong. you're supposed to stop the trolling when off the internet...

mhm. It's always sad to see the troll consumed by his own trolling.
#31 Posted by LiquidAjax (2032 posts) -
[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] lol what the hell are you talking about? I voted for obama.

lol.. you're doing it wrong. you're supposed to stop the trolling when off the internet...

mhm. It's always sad to see the troll consumed by his own trolling.

you're a trool
#32 Posted by nocoolnamejim (15136 posts) -
[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppersdave123321
So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

Vuurk did it better.
#33 Posted by LiquidAjax (2032 posts) -
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

Vuurk did it better.

He was so bad at it, he got banned.
#34 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

Vuurk did it better.

Never forget
#35 Posted by Allicrombie (25341 posts) -
Oh good, another "Obama is evil" thread. Not nearly enough of those.
#36 Posted by MrPraline (21331 posts) -
2013 dividend tax rate = 43.4%mingmao3046
Jesus.
#37 Posted by Guybrush_3 (8308 posts) -

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="dave123321"] Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attackLiquidAjax
Vuurk did it better.

He was so bad at it, he got banned.

Ban LiquidAjax!

#38 Posted by LiquidAjax (2032 posts) -

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Vuurk did it better.Guybrush_3

He was so bad at it, he got banned.

Ban LiquidAjax!

Ban Guybrush!
#39 Posted by laughingman42 (8730 posts) -

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] He was so bad at it, he got banned.LiquidAjax

Ban LiquidAjax!

Ban Guybrush!

Ban all the users!

#40 Posted by LiquidAjax (2032 posts) -

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Ban LiquidAjax!

laughingman42

Ban Guybrush!

Ban all the users!

Ban them all!
#41 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Ban LiquidAjax!

laughingman42

Ban Guybrush!

Ban all the users!

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

#42 Posted by nocoolnamejim (15136 posts) -

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] Ban Guybrush!-Sun_Tzu-

Ban all the users!

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

Are YOU Dave?
#43 Posted by laughingman42 (8730 posts) -

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] Ban Guybrush!-Sun_Tzu-

Ban all the users!

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

Wait, My name's Dave... Oh god what have I done!

#44 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

Ban all the users!

nocoolnamejim

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

Are YOU Dave?

I should be asking you the same question.

Or maybe it'd be more accurate to say that I should be asking me the same question

#45 Posted by Guybrush_3 (8308 posts) -

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

Ban all the users!

laughingman42

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

Wait, My name's Dave... Oh god what have I done!

ban all the daves!

#46 Posted by MrPraline (21331 posts) -
I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhm
#47 Posted by laughingman42 (8730 posts) -

I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhmMrPraline

Ban MrPraline!

#48 Posted by -Sun_Tzu- (17384 posts) -

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhmlaughingman42

Ban MrPraline!

May Dave grant Praline 72 alts in the afterlife
#49 Posted by MrPraline (21331 posts) -

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhmlaughingman42

Ban MrPraline!

They tried. Thrice. #angelsonmyside
#50 Posted by MrPraline (21331 posts) -
[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhm-Sun_Tzu-

Ban MrPraline!

May Dave grant Praline 72 alts in the afterlife

lmao the fresh, unused alts are the best can take them every which way