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#1 mingmao3046
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2012 dividend tax rate = 15.0%
2013 dividend tax rate = 43.4%


http://seekingalpha.com/article/1050371-2013-dividend-tax-impacts

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#2 moneymatterz
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Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

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#3 comp_atkins
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man... i don't know how the hell we had decades of prosperity before bush 2 came along and saved the economy.... ( and yes ^^ it would affect me personally )

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#4 mingmao3046
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Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

moneymatterz
It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas
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#5 XaosII
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

mingmao3046

It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas

If you read your own article, this will have fairly small impacts. Not to mention your entire argument is simply a sensationalist fallacy.

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#6 EmpCom
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas

The rich move jobs overseas anyway because labour is cheap as sh*t which in turn saves them money which makes them richer
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#7 mingmao3046
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[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas

The rich move jobs overseas anyway because labour is cheap as sh*t which in turn saves them money which makes them richer

and this higher tax will only make things worse
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?

XaosII

It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas

If you read your own article, this will have fairly small impacts. Not to mention your entire argument is simply a sensationalist fallacy.

If they declare income brackets based off dividends, passive income...a lot of clients will be screwed. That's just wrong. Could you imagine living 70 years, busting your balls, and then having the gov't start taxing you out the a$$ on your nest egg?
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#9 ZombieKiller7
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Obama is a disaster.

Libs won't learn until the western world collapses under its own weight.

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#10 mingmao3046
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Obama is a disaster.

Libs won't learn until the western world collapses under its own weight.

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Obama is a disaster.

Libs won't learn until the western world collapses under its own weight.

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Sad but true
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#12 XaosII
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If they declare income brackets based off dividends, passive income...a lot of clients will be screwed. That's just wrong. Could you imagine living 70 years, busting your balls, and then having the gov't start taxing you out the a$$ on your nest egg?mingmao3046

Your own article mentions how IRA's and 401-k's are unaffected.

Anyone investing in stocks or dividend stocks are doing so with an inherent risk. One of those risks among many are increased tax rates. Hey, they could've always gone to US Treasury Bonds as safe and secure investments, right? So, no, i dont have much sympathy for someone investing with their money in one of the riskier forms of investment.

That, and the higher tax rate will still only affect those earning over $250,000. Working for 70 years and earning $250,000 from passive income through dividends? I'd still be happy.

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That, and the higher tax rate will still only affect those earning over $250,000. Working for 70 years and earning $250,000 from passive income through dividends? I'd still be happy.

XaosII

See what I mean? This dude's essentially saying, "Doesn't affect me so screw those guys."

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#14 XaosII
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

That, and the higher tax rate will still only affect those earning over $250,000. Working for 70 years and earning $250,000 from passive income through dividends? I'd still be happy.

moneymatterz

See what I mean? This dude's essentially saying, "Doesn't affect me so screw those guys."

That's not what I said.

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[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] It does affect you personally when the rich stop investing and move jobs overseas mingmao3046
The rich move jobs overseas anyway because labour is cheap as sh*t which in turn saves them money which makes them richer

and this higher tax will only make things worse

how exactly?

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#16 moneymatterz
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

That, and the higher tax rate will still only affect those earning over $250,000. Working for 70 years and earning $250,000 from passive income through dividends? I'd still be happy.

XaosII

See what I mean? This dude's essentially saying, "Doesn't affect me so screw those guys."

That's not what I said.

It's what you feel in your blackened heart.

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#17 XaosII
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It's what you feel in your blackened heart.

moneymatterz

Putting words in other people's mouths is a poor hobby.

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#18 LiquidAjax
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Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.
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Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.LiquidAjax
You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.
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This thread is a disaster zone.

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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.cslayer211
You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.cslayer211
You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

Why wouldn't I be? He's freeing poor people from the rich.
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#23 Diablo-B
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This is good news, now all we have to do raise capital gains and that would have closed up many of the loop holes for the highest income earners.
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#24 cslayer211
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[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]Pretty sure you're looking for any reason to bash Obama. He's probably the best thing to happen to the country since Abe Lincoln.comp_atkins
You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers

So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?
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[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers

So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

?
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#26 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers

So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

i'm totally shocked as well
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[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] You're not being serious are you? Making even slight comparisons of Obama to Lincoln is quite ridiculous.

he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppers

So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack
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[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppersdave123321
So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

lol what the hell are you talking about? I voted for obama.
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#29 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

lol what the hell are you talking about? I voted for obama.

lol.. you're doing it wrong. you're supposed to stop the trolling when off the internet...
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="dave123321"] Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

lol what the hell are you talking about? I voted for obama.

lol.. you're doing it wrong. you're supposed to stop the trolling when off the internet...

mhm. It's always sad to see the troll consumed by his own trolling.
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] lol what the hell are you talking about? I voted for obama.

lol.. you're doing it wrong. you're supposed to stop the trolling when off the internet...

mhm. It's always sad to see the troll consumed by his own trolling.

you're a trool
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[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] he obviously isn't.... those sorts of statements seem to be the trend now though from the goppersdave123321
So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

Vuurk did it better.
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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

Vuurk did it better.

He was so bad at it, he got banned.
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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] So OT political debates have turned into trolling as the opposite party to make them look bad?

Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attack

Vuurk did it better.

Never forget
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Oh good, another "Obama is evil" thread. Not nearly enough of those.
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2013 dividend tax rate = 43.4%mingmao3046
Jesus.
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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="dave123321"] Pretty much. In this case Ajax is trying to make liberals look bad in some confused plan of attackLiquidAjax
Vuurk did it better.

He was so bad at it, he got banned.

Ban LiquidAjax!

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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Vuurk did it better.Guybrush_3

He was so bad at it, he got banned.

Ban LiquidAjax!

Ban Guybrush!
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] He was so bad at it, he got banned.LiquidAjax

Ban LiquidAjax!

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Ban all the users!

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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Ban LiquidAjax!

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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Ban LiquidAjax!

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Ban Guybrush!

Ban all the users!

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

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[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] Ban Guybrush!-Sun_Tzu-

Ban all the users!

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

Are YOU Dave?
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] Ban Guybrush!-Sun_Tzu-

Ban all the users!

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

Wait, My name's Dave... Oh god what have I done!

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

Ban all the users!

nocoolnamejim

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

Are YOU Dave?

I should be asking you the same question.

Or maybe it'd be more accurate to say that I should be asking me the same question

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

Ban all the users!

laughingman42

Just banning dave will get rid of at least 45% of OT. And that is a conservative estimate.

We could all be dave and not even realize it

Wait, My name's Dave... Oh god what have I done!

ban all the daves!

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I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhm
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I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhmMrPraline

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhmlaughingman42

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhmlaughingman42

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They tried. Thrice. #angelsonmyside
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]I am an agent of Dave's as well. #mhm-Sun_Tzu-

Ban MrPraline!

May Dave grant Praline 72 alts in the afterlife

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