NYPD cop accidently shoots innocent man

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Over the weekend a rookie NYPD cop and his rookie partner was patrolling an extremely crime filled housing project building in Brooklyn NY. As they were walking down a very dark stairway an unarmed man in his 20s was shot and killed by accident. Officer Liang fired the shot that he claims was by accident. The man shot was never committing any crime at the time got gunned down. NYC residents are calling the shooting racism. The officer who fired the shot is Asian and the unarmed man was is black. They want justice for what happened, but what would be justice in this situation? should the cop do jail time? should the man get some money? by the way the man shot was arrested over 20 times in the past, but that's unrelated to the shooting

Yeah I'm sure Officer Liang was like "Lets go shoot up some black people tonight lol" to his partner.

Well, at the very least Gurley's family should get some monetary compensation. As for the rookie officer, he should be looking at the very least for a new job.

If a Black man were to shoot a police officer and claim that he did so accidentally, would anybody believe him? Would anybody even debate whether he could be telling the truth?

Sure.

You say that like people who think this are in the wrong. Black culture in parts of a America is heavily influenced by shit like "thug life"; when people think that, I really don't blame them.

Part of the culture basically glamorizes and promotes crime while police inherently do the opposite.

Kinda sick of assholes beating up on the police. Look at the bullshit they have to put up with.

Note as well (shock) a black police officer.

It may have just been an accident, won't really know until the investigation. Worst that probably happened was the officer was nervous being in a rookie in a high crime area and in a dark stairwell, had drawn his gun and overreacted when someone surprised him on the stair case.

I doubt "racism" is really the cause here.

Vladimir Putin should be arming the oppressed people of Ferguson.

They're up against the most-militarized, most-mechanized police force in history, so they'll need more than pistols and revolvers.

Uncle Vlad should send at least the following:

• automatic rifles,
• armor-piercing rounds,
• RPGs,
• anti-tank weapons
• body armor and
• surface-to-air ordnance that can take down a helicopter.

:-)

I work with a law firm that handles a lot of civil cases in the greater LA / Orange County area, cops shooting innocent people happens here all the time, sometimes the people live with injuries and other times not. Many times these shootings don't make the news, and if they do they're covered very little. Much of the time it's often handled quietly, other times it goes to a civil court. Next to never are the actual cops held accountable, they're almost never charged and never receive any kind of professional reprimand. They're almost always award free vacations (AKA "paid administrative leave") for their trouble. If anything they have incentive to commit shootings, they have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

Anyhow, accidental shootings happen, we had one client who was in his garage moving boxes when a cop though he was acting suspiciously and drew his gun on him. He had the client get down on the ground and keep his hands up. He accidentally fired his gun into the client's gut, the client lived with severe injuries. The cop at least had the decency to say he fired his gun by accident, instead of these other cops that make bullshit excuses and probably plant a drop gun on people they shoot.

I'm never going outside if I ever move back to the States.

If this man's prior arrests have nothing to do with the shooting then why are people bringing them up in the first place? Reminds me of when it was leaked that Trayvon had weed in his system when that had nothing to do with him being shot. Or that Michael Brown might have stolen some cigars when that had nothing to do with him getting shot. These kids get killed and their character gets assassinated before they're even in the ground.

IQ differences are an indirect cause of this incident.

and Ebola virus as well.

I'd like to know the racial make-up of these incidents.

All Hispanic/Latinos are listed as white racially on police reports.

@lamprey263:

I need specifics. Usually, what is the race(s) of the officer(s) and the victim(s)?

sorry, I don't have a spreadsheet of data for analysis at my disposal, suffice to say most victims are are non-white Hispanic, a few blacks, and a mix bag of white police officers and white Hispanic officers since I've been working there

More than likely internal affairs will review the case and the officer will be suspended or terminated and there will be a monetary award for the victim.

Of course race is brought into the discussion. It wouldn't be a discussion without it.

*rolls eyes*

keep 'em arguing about race, then you do not have to actually address real problems.

If he did just shoot a man by mistake who committed no act of violence against him or others then he should go to jail for murder. People think or say I'm crazy when I question or call out the police infrastructure, training, and post investigative techniques. But then shit like this happens almost daily if not more and 99% of it never hits the "news". Hard to stop a new york papers etc from writing about this but it's not to hard to keep it under radar in small towns, or dying cities which is most often the case.

Riiiiight, of course this asian cop was trying to get into the homie squad with the white coppers and went out together with his rookie partner with the sole purpose of shooting some black guy, because as we know everyone hate black people.

Or could it be that this rookie was a rookie and for some strange reason he was let out alone with no veteran officer to back him up in one of the more crime stricken areas, and since he wasn't a veteran he might have misjudge the situation because he didn´t have years of experience.

I'm sorry, but are you trying to justify or excuse this needless loss of life? So what the officer was a rookie? So what the area is crime-ridden? That doesn't change the fact that the officer shot an unarmed man for no reason what so ever other than the fact that he was scared. He needs to tried and convicted.

There is a huge difference between a deliberate act of malice and a really, really stupid mistake.

The guy made a terrible mistake and most certainly shouldn't be a cop anymore as it seems he cannot handle the job. At the same time, throwing him in jail isn't going to help anything. Reward the victim money and kick the dude from the force sounds like the best option to me.

Negligent does not mean something was intentional though.

We always hear how firearm enthusiasts should take this and that kind of course to exercise their rights but what about police officers? Shouldn't they know you never point your firearm (and have a finger on the trigger) unless you plan on shooting. It seems to be very common for a person entrusted with upholding the law to shoot innocent people. Lets not forget the kid in Ohio who was shot after carrying a toy firearm.

He needs to be convicted? Why even put him on trial then? Let's just skip to the punishment part, right?

He needs to be prosecuted if he deliberately went out to shoot someone, if he in the line of duty shot a person in a genuine fear for his life or others, then he shouldn't be anything.

This is clearly a sad case and NYPD needs to take blame also because what was a rookie cop doing with another rookie in a highly dangerous area.

No. He needs to be charged with involuntary manslaughter. Period.

Involuntary manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice aforethought, either express or implied. It is distinguished from voluntary manslaughter by the absence of intention. It is normally divided into two categories; constructive manslaughter and criminally negligent manslaughter, both of which involve criminal liability.

Source.

Is anyone really surprised by this?

Also of course conservatives will jump to the police's defense. According to them white police officers can do no harm. Conservatives wonder why non white Americans will never vote for them. Its because according to the typical republican, the lives of non whites don't matter.

You can't just accidently shoot someone and get away with it.

Exactly, so sick of people crying racism over everything that happens.

Officer Liang.

Most of the posters in this thread do not value the lives of Black people. For those of you who have said that the officer should not be punished, to hell with you.

Wow...really? You're really going to go with that ridiculous republicans are all racist bs. You're a fool and you have no idea what you're talking about. You're sticking to the stupid and untrue talking points from the far left...grow up and get a damn clue.

Everyone's life matters no matter the color but people are getting sick and tied of everything being labeled as race related. Seriously everything gets labeled as racist by people like you when there is absolutely no proof of it. Sometimes bad things happen because people are freaking stupid (Michael Brown for example, does punching an armed officer in the face and trying to take his gun seem like a good idea to you?) and it would not have matter what color the people involved are. But no matter what it's labeled as racism by the left...give it a rest man. Grow up and stop trying to find racism in everything...in a lot of cases the racism is created by people like you.

This isn't really about guns, dude.

It looks like the officer should be brought to trial. A badge should not excuse a person's actions.

P.S. I'm not dealing with the race of either individual.

So far, it looks like the officer committed a serious crime. Merely kicking him off the force would show that an officer is allowed to walk away from a serious offense. Would this even be a conversation if this wasn't an officer?

Well, lets see...when a civilian accidentally shoots someone the police put a lot of effort into proving they did it on purpose so that's what they should do in this case.

Oh, and this blaming everything on race crap has to stop. The cops are dicks to everyone.

If the man had a gun, this wouldn't have happened

If the victim was white and in a upper class majority white neighborhood do you really think all those conservatives would jump to his defense? Yeah right. Funny how republicans claim that they are "christian" when most of them value the lives of whites more than that of non whites.

This case doesn't really have anything to do with race.

Racists are just sensationalizing it.

Read carefully though your post and look how ridiculous and hypocritical it is.

You're stereotyping Christians, Conservatives, Republicans and white people by accusing them of some pretty serious things and complaining about racism at the same time. See that?

On top of that, what you're saying is not true. If the man had been white I would have said it was a terrible accident no matter what the cops color was but I wouldn't scream racism with absolutely no proof of such things.

You want to accuse the man of killing this guy due to a racial reasons when there is nothing at all to show race as a motive. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? All the sudden that's gone out the window?

I hate to tell you this but you're everything you accuse the White, Christian, Republican, Conservatives of being...you're just too bias to see it.

He was also wearing shoes.

Don't be an idiot. Cop shoots a guy, and you complain about the fact that the cop had a gun? Yeah, let's take all the guns away from cops and replace them with walkie talkies or something.

And his gun didn't walk him up the stairs.

His gun also didn't get him to the scene, his car did. Sounds like a car issue to me. Without a car, he never would have been at the scene and the other dude would still be alive. Let's take away the cars from cops. After all, they can't kill you if they can't even get there.

So you agree that this is also a car issue, and that in order to prevent such further incidents we should take cars away from police officers?

If you can admit that, then I'll admit that this is a gun issue.