News: 71 wounded, 12 killed in midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises

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#102 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

You're right. Which means that only criminals will bother getting guns, and your neighbors will go without. How do you not see the significance of this? The fewer people who carry guns the less people will get shot to death.

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I don't see the significance.

So, according to your logic it doesn't matter whether 1 person or 1000 people are shot and killed? Good to know where you stand.

It won't decrease murder. Criminals and psychopaths will always obtain them illegally. It will just start another big market for gangs and organized crime. Some may even result to making there own guns.
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That's horrible. :[
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#104 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"] I don't see the significance. Jebus213

So, according to your logic it doesn't matter whether 1 person or 1000 people are shot and killed? Good to know where you stand.

It won't decrease murder. Criminals and psychopaths will always obtain them illegally. It will just start another big market for gangs and organized crime. Some may even result to making there own guns.

Why has it worked in other countries? What makes America different?

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#105 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Iszdope"]

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]you don't know them and isnt affected you. no need to get upset or lose sleep over it

almasdeathchild

Piss off.

Edit: Post #96 again!

stuff like this happens everyday and one hits it big and people cry over it. no no,not like anything bad is happening in africa oh god no. it's all sunshine and butterflys. no one cares what is happening over there. but when it comes to this or the tsunami in japan,everyone lost their freaking minds.

honestly i can say it sucks and it's sad but it's not bugging me and i wont lose sleep over it.

Do you need to make a comment like that? If it's not bugging you then leave the thread and allow discussion between those who are genuinely interested. I'm not sure what relevancy Africa has with a shooting in Colorado a few hours ago...

I heard that the death toll has been downsized to 12, not sure if it's been confirmed.

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#106 N30F3N1X
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Some may even result to making there own guns.Jebus213

That'd be one hell of an achievement. We need less stupid people around.

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#107 SaltyMeatballs
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Crazy.

Dem gun laws.

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#108 N30F3N1X
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Do you need to make a comment like that? If it's not bugging you then leave the thread and allow discussion between those who are genuinely interested. I'm not sure what relevancy Africa has with a shooting in Colorado a few hours ago...Ravensmash

You're just pretending to be interested. Give it a week and you won't even remember where it happened anymore.

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#109 Scarebaby
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Why has it worked in other countries? What makes America different?

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Exactly. Thank you.

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#110 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="Iszdope"]

Piss off.

Edit: Post #96 again!

Ravensmash

stuff like this happens everyday and one hits it big and people cry over it. no no,not like anything bad is happening in africa oh god no. it's all sunshine and butterflys. no one cares what is happening over there. but when it comes to this or the tsunami in japan,everyone lost their freaking minds.

honestly i can say it sucks and it's sad but it's not bugging me and i wont lose sleep over it.

Do you need to make a comment like that? If it's not bugging you then leave the thread and allow discussion between those who are genuinely interested. I'm not sure what relevancy Africa has with a shooting in Colorado a few hours ago...

I heard that the death toll has been downsized to 12, not sure if it's been confirmed.

it's not but i enjoy conversation. though i'm shocked it's a movie theatre of all things i'll give you that.

but lets hope it's been downsized.

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#111 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

So, according to your logic it doesn't matter whether 1 person or 1000 people are shot and killed? Good to know where you stand.

mattisgod01

It won't decrease murder. Criminals and psychopaths will always obtain them illegally. It will just start another big market for gangs and organized crime. Some may even result to making there own guns.

Why has it worked in other countries? What makes America different?

It's worked in other countries? That's news to me.
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#112 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Do you need to make a comment like that? If it's not bugging you then leave the thread and allow discussion between those who are genuinely interested. I'm not sure what relevancy Africa has with a shooting in Colorado a few hours ago...N30F3N1X

You're just pretending to be interested. Give it a week and you won't even remember where it happened anymore.

Are you looking out for me or something? Go away.
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#113 N30F3N1X
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Are you looking out for me or something? Go away.Ravensmash

I'm genuinely interested in knowing why would anyone other than the people who were present, their families and their friends be interested in said mishappening to the point of calling out humorous remarks. You're just unlucky to be the only one around "showing empathy".

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#115 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]Some may even result to making there own guns.N30F3N1X

That'd be one hell of an achievement.

You never heard of people making homemade guns? Do you people get out much?

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#116 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Are you looking out for me or something? Go away.N30F3N1X

I'm genuinely interested in knowing why would anyone other than the people who were present, their families and their friends be interested in said mishappening to the point of calling out humorous remarks. You're just unlucky to be the only one around "showing empathy".

Do you wonder why people watch the news? After all, I watch it and half those stories are miles away from me - guess I shouldn't give a **** and laugh about poor Miss Bloggs being raped, I didn't know her so that's fine! I'll just sit back and make a few jokes, what she doesn't hear won't hurt her !

That's your argument right? ^ a childish one

Yeah, I made one comment towards a link stating that it wasn't as appropriate as the poster believed considering how soon it is after an event, and you've latched on to a simple remark as though you're offended by my 'censorship!'. Apologies though, I must learn to be more cold and practise my internet persona better.

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#118 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]Some may even result to making there own guns.Jebus213

That'd be one hell of an achievement.

You never heard of people making homemade guns? Do you people get out much?

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

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#119 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]That'd be one hell of an achievement. mattisgod01

You never heard of people making homemade guns? Do you people get out much?

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

probably fall apart after the first shot, heh people would likely turn to knives, like we've seen here in Britain unfortunately
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#120 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Are you looking out for me or something? Go away.Ravensmash

I'm genuinely interested in knowing why would anyone other than the people who were present, their families and their friends be interested in said mishappening to the point of calling out humorous remarks. You're just unlucky to be the only one around "showing empathy".

Do you wonder why people watch the news? After all, I watch it and half those stories are miles away from me - guess I shouldn't give a **** and laugh about poor Miss Bloggs being raped, I didn't know her so that's fine! I'll just sit back and make a few jokes, what she doesn't hear won't hurt her !

That's your argument right? ^ a childish one

Yeah, I made one comment towards a link stating that it wasn't as appropriate as the poster believed considering how soon it is after an event, and you've latched on to a simple remark as though you're offended by my 'censorship!'. Apologies though, I must learn to be more cold and practise my internet persona better.

to know whats going on in the world? anyway you're on the internet and i wouldn't take anything anyone here says too seriously.my two cents

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#121 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]That'd be one hell of an achievement. mattisgod01

You never heard of people making homemade guns? Do you people get out much?

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

I want to see how banning guns would prevent anyone from committing mass murder. Illegal arms dealers will be filthy rich. Banning guns will only increase crime.
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#122 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"] You never heard of people making homemade guns? Do you people get out much?

Ravensmash

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

probably fall apart after the first shot, heh people would likely turn to knives, like we've seen here in Britain unfortunately

I'd rather meet a lunatic with a knife then a gun.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Are you looking out for me or something? Go away.N30F3N1X

I'm genuinely interested in knowing why would anyone other than the people who were present, their families and their friends be interested in said mishappening to the point of calling out humorous remarks. You're just unlucky to be the only one around "showing empathy".

I think it has more to do with respect to the victims than anything else. What else could it be? I don't see a big deal about it, but can understand why it bothers some people.
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#124 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

I'm genuinely interested in knowing why would anyone other than the people who were present, their families and their friends be interested in said mishappening to the point of calling out humorous remarks. You're just unlucky to be the only one around "showing empathy".

almasdeathchild

Do you wonder why people watch the news? After all, I watch it and half those stories are miles away from me - guess I shouldn't give a **** and laugh about poor Miss Bloggs being raped, I didn't know her so that's fine! I'll just sit back and make a few jokes, what she doesn't hear won't hurt her !

That's your argument right? ^ a childish one

Yeah, I made one comment towards a link stating that it wasn't as appropriate as the poster believed considering how soon it is after an event, and you've latched on to a simple remark as though you're offended by my 'censorship!'. Apologies though, I must learn to be more cold and practise my internet persona better.

to know whats going on in the world? anyway you're on the internet and i wouldn't take anything anyone here says too seriously.my two cents

Well yeah, but then that's my point - the internet doesn't exclude the opportunity to have a reasonable discussion about something. I did over-react somewhat with that link, but I just find it odd how I was called out for caring about what was going on - as though this is a bad thing all of a sudden, when actually it's the expected reaction to such a situation.
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"] You never heard of people making homemade guns? Do you people get out much?

Jebus213

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

I want to see how banning guns would prevent anyone from committing mass murder. Banning guns will only increase crime.

Increase crime? Explain how that would happen
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#127 Scarebaby
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"] You never heard of people making homemade guns? Do you people get out much?

Jebus213

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

I want to see how banning guns would prevent anyone from committing mass murder. Illegal arms dealers will be filthy rich. Banning guns will only increase crime.

No one is saying that banning guns would PREVENT murder, we're saying it would LESSEN the amount of murders being committed. Is English not your first language?

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#128 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

mattisgod01

probably fall apart after the first shot, heh people would likely turn to knives, like we've seen here in Britain unfortunately

I'd rather meet a lunatic with a knife then a gun.

I'd rather be the law abiding citizen with the gun.
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#129 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

Scarebaby

I want to see how banning guns would prevent anyone from committing mass murder. Illegal arms dealers will be filthy rich. Banning guns will only increase crime.

No one is saying that banning guns would PREVENT murder, we're saying it would LESSEN the amount of murders being committed. Is English not your first language?

It won't lessen anything. People will find ways.
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I wonder what you people are going say next..... Has prohibition worked all of a sudden?
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This is like reason #1 why you don't go to these movie openings anymore.

If people are crazy enough to get dressed up like Batman, you know there 1 or 2 out there who are REALLY messed up and looking to go Postal.

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#132 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Do you wonder why people watch the news? After all, I watch it and half those stories are miles away from me - guess I shouldn't give a **** and laugh about poor Miss Bloggs being raped, I didn't know her so that's fine! I'll just sit back and make a few jokes, what she doesn't hear won't hurt her !

That's your argument right? ^ a childish one

Yeah, I made one comment towards a link stating that it wasn't as appropriate as the poster believed considering how soon it is after an event, and you've latched on to a simple remark as though you're offended by my 'censorship!'. Apologies though, I must learn to be more cold and practise my internet persona better.

Ravensmash

to know whats going on in the world? anyway you're on the internet and i wouldn't take anything anyone here says too seriously.my two cents

Well yeah, but then that's my point - the internet doesn't exclude the opportunity to have a reasonable discussion about something. I did over-react somewhat with that link, but I just find it odd how I was called out for caring about what was going on - as though this is a bad thing all of a sudden, when actually it's the expected reaction to such a situation.

it's different these days as people may say it's sad and have some respect for it. there are also those that don't care it isnt a new thing.

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#133 cfstar
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Came precisely to post this news.

RIP.

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#134 ZamboniGamer
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This is like reason #1 why you don't go to these movie openings anymore.

If people are crazy enough to get dressed up like Batman, you know there 1 or 2 out there who are REALLY messed up and looking to go Postal.

Netherscourge
Agree. My wife purchased two tickets that can be used anytime. We were thinking about going next week or so. Though i think we may just give them away. Don't know how comfortable I feel going now. Also think of the other nuts out there that may attempt the same thing. I'll just wait until it releases on blu-ray which therese days is happening sooner than later.
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Do you wonder why people watch the news? After all, I watch it and half those stories are miles away from me - guess I shouldn't give a **** and laugh about poor Miss Bloggs being raped, I didn't know her so that's fine! I'll just sit back and make a few jokes, what she doesn't hear won't hurt her !

That's your argument right? ^ a childish one

Yeah, I made one comment towards a link stating that it wasn't as appropriate as the poster believed considering how soon it is after an event, and you've latched on to a simple remark as though you're offended by my 'censorship!'. Apologies though, I must learn to be more cold and practise my internet persona better.

Ravensmash

Would you rather cry over spilled milk or be realist by acknowledging that you're not willing to do anything about it, and move on?

I can totally see who's the childish one here.

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#136 stuff238
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Thats going to effect TDKR's sales. They just lost thousands of dollars in sales.
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#137 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"] You never heard of people making homemade guns? Do you people get out much?

Jebus213

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

I want to see how banning guns would prevent anyone from committing mass murder. Banning guns will only increase crime.

Where do people keep pulling that BS from anyway? It's nothing but NRA propaganda. The #1 reason people want guns is because they think they are cool. They don't want to have to give away their favourite toys.

65% of homicides in the US are committed using firearms. That's far higher then any other developed country in the world. The US also has the highest rate of gun ownership in the developed world.

http://sydney.edu.au/medicine/news/news/2006/Dec/061214.php

I'm really can't be bothered getting into a gun debate so i'll leave it here.

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#139 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] probably fall apart after the first shot, heh people would likely turn to knives, like we've seen here in Britain unfortunatelyJebus213

I'd rather meet a lunatic with a knife then a gun.

I'd rather be the law abiding citizen with the gun.

Tell that to those movie goers, I bet you'd be their hero and save the day.

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#140 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

mattisgod01

I want to see how banning guns would prevent anyone from committing mass murder. Banning guns will only increase crime.

Where do people keep pulling that BS from anyway? It's nothing but NRA propaganda. The #1 reason people want guns is because they think they are cool. They don't want to have to give away their favourite toys.

65% of homicides in the US are committed using firearms. That's far higher then any other developed country in the world. The US also has the highest rate of gun ownership in the developed world.

http://sydney.edu.au/medicine/news/news/2006/Dec/061214.php

I'm really can't be bothered getting into a gun debate so i'll leave it here.

no. from how insane it is in the US people buy them out of fear and paranoia.sure guns are cool but i doubt thats the 1#

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Do you wonder why people watch the news? After all, I watch it and half those stories are miles away from me - guess I shouldn't give a **** and laugh about poor Miss Bloggs being raped, I didn't know her so that's fine! I'll just sit back and make a few jokes, what she doesn't hear won't hurt her !

That's your argument right? ^ a childish one

Yeah, I made one comment towards a link stating that it wasn't as appropriate as the poster believed considering how soon it is after an event, and you've latched on to a simple remark as though you're offended by my 'censorship!'. Apologies though, I must learn to be more cold and practise my internet persona better.

N30F3N1X

Would you rather cry over spilled milk or be realist by acknowledging that you're not willing to do anything about it, and move on?

I can totally see who's the childish one here.

How can I do anything about it? That doesn't mean I can't show respect for the victims or feel bad about the event and follow it - that's a ridiculously isolated viewpoint. And I don't think 50 people being shot (including a 3 month old baby and children) warrants the term 'spilled milk'. C'mon dude. As I've said, you latched on to a comment I made and tried to twist it into a negative.
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Oh f*ck off, apologies for having empathy towards a mass shooting as if empathy is somehow a bad thing to showN30F3N1X

You're not "showing empathy", you're b!tching about humor.

That wasn'thumor, just pure spite.

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I wonder what you people are going say next..... Has prohibition worked all of a sudden?Jebus213

Prohibition on Alchohol failed because it could be easily manufacutred. Guns on the other hand can't. The US is the #1 weapons supplier in the world. Mexico banned all sales of guns, Guess where the Cartels get theirs? That's right, Made in the USA.

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#145 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

I'd like to see someone manufacture homemade guns capable of injuring 50+ people and killing 14+.

mattisgod01

I want to see how banning guns would prevent anyone from committing mass murder. Banning guns will only increase crime.

Where do people keep pulling that BS from anyway? It's nothing but NRA propaganda. The #1 reason people want guns is because they think they are cool. They don't want to have to give away their favourite toys.

65% of homicides in the US are committed using firearms. That's far higher then any other developed country in the world. The US also has the highest rate of gun ownership in the developed world.

http://sydney.edu.au/medicine/news/news/2006/Dec/061214.php

I'm really can't be bothered getting into a gun debate so i'll leave it here.

and will continue to remain at 65% if guns where banned.
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#146 N30F3N1X
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How can I do anything about it? That doesn't mean I can't show respect for the victims or feel bad about the event and follow it - that's a ridiculously isolated viewpoint. And I don't think 50 people being shot (including a 3 month old baby and children) warrants the term 'spilled milk'. C'mon dude. As I've said, you latched on to a comment I made and tried to twist it into a negative. Ravensmash

I didn't twist anything, it *was* a negative. Nobody here feels good about what happened. You think being humorous is meant to disrespect the victims?

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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]I wonder what you people are going say next..... Has prohibition worked all of a sudden?mattisgod01

Prohibition on Alchohol failed because it could be easily manufacutred. Guns on the other hand can't. The US is the #1 weapons supplier in the world. Mexico banned all sales of guns, Guess where the Cartels get theirs? That's right, Made in the USA.

Then they shouldn't have banned all sales of guns.
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#148 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"] I want to see how banning guns would prevent anyone from committing mass murder. Banning guns will only increase crime.almasdeathchild

Where do people keep pulling that BS from anyway? It's nothing but NRA propaganda. The #1 reason people want guns is because they think they are cool. They don't want to have to give away their favourite toys.

65% of homicides in the US are committed using firearms. That's far higher then any other developed country in the world. The US also has the highest rate of gun ownership in the developed world.

http://sydney.edu.au/medicine/news/news/2006/Dec/061214.php

I'm really can't be bothered getting into a gun debate so i'll leave it here.

no. from how insane it is in the US people buy them out of fear and paranoia.sure guns are cool but i doubt thats the 1#

The way people go on about their guns i'm pretty sure it is. How could people in a first world country be so affraid and paranoid? Has their society completely collapsed? Or are they worried that it soon might?

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Where do people keep pulling that BS from anyway? It's nothing but NRA propaganda. The #1 reason people want guns is because they think they are cool. They don't want to have to give away their favourite toys.

65% of homicides in the US are committed using firearms. That's far higher then any other developed country in the world. The US also has the highest rate of gun ownership in the developed world.

http://sydney.edu.au/medicine/news/news/2006/Dec/061214.php

I'm really can't be bothered getting into a gun debate so i'll leave it here.

mattisgod01

no. from how insane it is in the US people buy them out of fear and paranoia.sure guns are cool but i doubt thats the 1#

The way people go on about their guns i'm pretty sure it is. How could people in a first world country be so affraid and paranoid? Has their society completely collapsed? Or are they worried that it soon might?

gangs violence breakins kills rapes. all happen in a first world country. it isnt sunshine and butterflys over here.