Netflix loses Starz movies in February.

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#1 The-Apostle
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http://ca.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idCATRE78063S20110902

This sucks. And the price hike on top of it. I'm considering looking elsewhere myself. Hopefully Starz strikes a deal with Hulu or something. And Netflix better do something soon or someone like Google or Amazon are going to take over.

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#2 Bane_09
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Ugh that sucks, netflix has really been letting me down lately

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#3 sammyjenkis898
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What a huge loss. /sarcasm
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#4 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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Eh...I'll manage with what's left. I refuse to pay for Hulu's service--You don't get to watch their full catalog, plus you still have to put up with commercials.
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#5 Tauruslink
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Wow. Goodbye Netflix.
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#6 The-Apostle
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]What a huge loss. /sarcasm

Not sure why you're being sarcastic. Starz on Netflix has a MAJOR selection of movies.
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#7 theone86
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That kinda sucks, but those movies are pretty bad for the most part, every once in a while I'll see one that's good. This isn't really Netflix's fault, it's all the movie studios who are having trouble adapting to new technology. What I really think Netflix should do is get rid of shipping entirely, keep the monthly streaming, and add an option to rent or buy non-streaming movies. In other words, for the movies that Netflix doesn't have a deal with you can buy a one-time streaming view, or you can pay what you might for a DVD and have that movie available to watch instantly forever.

I think the problem is the movie studios, Netflix is a horrible deal for them. Even with all the money that Netflix pays to get movies on their streaming surface, movie studios still lose money because people are paying so much less than they would be if they were buying the individual DVDs. Movie studios are souring on streaming and trying to support pay-per-view instead.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]What a huge loss. /sarcasm

Not sure why you're being sarcastic. Starz on Netflix has a MAJOR selection of movies.

It's too bad that "major" selection doesn't feature any good movies.
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]What a huge loss. /sarcasm

Not sure why you're being sarcastic. Starz on Netflix has a MAJOR selection of movies.

It's too bad that "major" selection doesn't feature any good movies.

I disagree. I've liked a lot of the Stars movies I've seen, as long as they're not art house.
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And there's another blow to netflix. I actually liked watching some of the Starz movies.

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#11 theone86
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Not sure why you're being sarcastic. Starz on Netflix has a MAJOR selection of movies.The-Apostle
It's too bad that "major" selection doesn't feature any good movies.

I disagree. I've liked a lot of the Stars movies I've seen, as long as they're not art house.

Yes, movies like White Chicks are such gems.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]What a huge loss. /sarcasmsammyjenkis898
Not sure why you're being sarcastic. Starz on Netflix has a MAJOR selection of movies.

It's too bad that "major" selection doesn't feature any good movies.

Not to mention they are never in HD.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] It's too bad that "major" selection doesn't feature any good movies.theone86

I disagree. I've liked a lot of the Stars movies I've seen, as long as they're not art house.

Yes, movies like White Chicks are such gems.

Are you being sarcastic because I said I don't like art house movies? I don't like them because I find them to be boring. Anyway, my preference is and always will be 80s-90s movies, with some 70s movies too.
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Netflix's response was so great...pretty much saying they would use this money towards publishers with better films/tv shows :P http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/netflix-reacts-starz-content-is-230380
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First, it's one column. Then another. And another. Then, the whole coliseum comes crashing down....
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[QUOTE="CosmoKing7717"]Netflix's response was so great...pretty much saying they would use this money towards publishers with better films/tv shows :P http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/netflix-reacts-starz-content-is-230380

Crossing my fingers for HBO.
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[QUOTE="sauronthehun"][QUOTE="CosmoKing7717"]Netflix's response was so great...pretty much saying they would use this money towards publishers with better films/tv shows :P http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/netflix-reacts-starz-content-is-230380

Crossing my fingers for HBO.

HBO is so freaking stingy T_T curse them.
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#18 fl4tlined
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and i stop using netflix now
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#19 mattbbpl
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And the strategy to turn Netflix into a metaphorical swap meet continues.
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#21 CosmoKing7717
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I'm sure this means their TV shows too? Thank God I bought Party Down on DVD.spongeliv
CRAP FORGOT I NEED TO WATCH THAT QUICKLY
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Ugh that sucks, netflix has really been letting me down lately

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Same here :(
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] I disagree. I've liked a lot of the Stars movies I've seen, as long as they're not art house.The-Apostle

Yes, movies like White Chicks are such gems.

Are you being sarcastic because I said I don't like art house movies? I don't like them because I find them to be boring. Anyway, my preference is and always will be 80s-90s movies, with some 70s movies too.

Partially, but mostly I'm being sarcastic because you're trying to use personal preference as an objective qualifier for a movie being good or bad (not to mention using it as your singular qualifier). "I like it" is not the same as it being good, there are objective qualifications you can use to judge movies such as script quality, originality, direction, acting, and whether or not it appeals to the lowest common denominator. Many Starz movies, such as White Chicks, fail on all counts. Doesn't mean you can't like White Chicks, but you liking it will not make it good. That's why we have the phrase "guilty pleasures."

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I guess some companies just love to be greedy. Oh well, after looking through there I only seen a handful of movies from the set and I either have the DVD or didn't bother watching it again.
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#26 Allicrombie
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I BARELY watch anything on Netflix's stream anymore anyway, its like 99% crap.
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#27 Colin1192
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not many people were watching those movies, netflix offered them $200 million, they should have taken the money.
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Netflix streaming has turned to crap lately anyway

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Netflix's response was so great...pretty much saying they would use this money towards publishers with better films/tv shows :P http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/netflix-reacts-starz-content-is-230380CosmoKing7717

Sounds like a good plan as long as they can add as many or more shows/movies than Starz provided. It should keep the cost of Netflix down.

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#30 QuistisTrepe_
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Dumb move Starz. Just don't start crying about lost profits when piracy spikes up dramatically.

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#31 QuistisTrepe_
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I BARELY watch anything on Netflix's stream anymore anyway, its like 99% crap.Allicrombie

It's getting that way. Lately it's more of a service to stream old TV series than watching actual movies. Hollywood is a collective control freak and wrongly views Netflix as a threat.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Yes, movies like White Chicks are such gems.

theone86

Are you being sarcastic because I said I don't like art house movies? I don't like them because I find them to be boring. Anyway, my preference is and always will be 80s-90s movies, with some 70s movies too.

Partially, but mostly I'm being sarcastic because you're trying to use personal preference as an objective qualifier for a movie being good or bad (not to mention using it as your singular qualifier). "I like it" is not the same as it being good, there are objective qualifications you can use to judge movies such as script quality, originality, direction, acting, and whether or not it appeals to the lowest common denominator. Many Starz movies, such as White Chicks, fail on all counts. Doesn't mean you can't like White Chicks, but you liking it will not make it good. That's why we have the phrase "guilty pleasures."

I'm sorry but that's a little out there...if someone likes a movie then it's good to them. Who cares about some supposedly "objective" qualifications that make a movie "good". It's all subjective and this isn't film class.

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#33 Jackc8
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So Netflix offered Staz TEN TIMES as much as they were previously getting, and they turned it down? I don't know, this sort of greed is just idiotic. I'm pretty happy with Netflix, for all the movies I watch, it's a great bargain even with the price going up a few bucks a month. Comparing it to any premium TV channels like HBO is utterly comical - probably get 100 times the value from Netflix.

Oh well, I'm sure that they'll figure out something else to do with all that money they were planning on paying Starz. Probably something better.

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#34 Lostboy1224
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Screw Starz, Netflix should sign with HBO. They have way better television series and movies.
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also with the spike in prices, glad i didnt actually buy Netflix after my free month was over

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The only thing good that could come of this is if all these other services start losing money and can't afford to pay what Hollywood stupidly insists on.
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#37 Alter_Echo
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This is actually a good thing. Now there won't be so many really bad movies popping up in my suggestions. Less to sift through = finding decent stuff easier.

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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Are you being sarcastic because I said I don't like art house movies? I don't like them because I find them to be boring. Anyway, my preference is and always will be 80s-90s movies, with some 70s movies too.junglist101

Partially, but mostly I'm being sarcastic because you're trying to use personal preference as an objective qualifier for a movie being good or bad (not to mention using it as your singular qualifier). "I like it" is not the same as it being good, there are objective qualifications you can use to judge movies such as script quality, originality, direction, acting, and whether or not it appeals to the lowest common denominator. Many Starz movies, such as White Chicks, fail on all counts. Doesn't mean you can't like White Chicks, but you liking it will not make it good. That's why we have the phrase "guilty pleasures."

I'm sorry but that's a little out there...if someone likes a movie then it's good to them. Who cares about some supposedly "objective" qualifications that make a movie "good". It's all subjective and this isn't film class.

Yes, it's good to them, but that doesn't mean it's objectively good. That's my problem, is using subjective qualification to determine objective worth, in addition to the fact that he can't even quantify his subjective viewpoint, all he can say is that it's "good." I'm simply tired of seeing people, in film and other topics, who think that simply having an opinion entitles them to having that opinion validated, and that anyone who asks them to *gasp* substantiate their opinion is being an elitist jerk.

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#39 superfluidity
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I don't care about the Starz content, but hopefully this doesn't become a trend. If something I like disappeared it would probably bother me quite a bit.

It's not like there's anything to worry about though, if Netflix really goes downhill I'll just cancel.

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Such a huge lost, Netflix will never be the same.:cry:
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#41 comp_atkins
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meh. i wasn't that impressed w/ their mod selection as it was.. i'm still using the dvd/br format for most of the stuff i get from netflix.
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I BARELY watch anything on Netflix's stream anymore anyway, its like 99% crap.Allicrombie
I was just gonna ask do they ever get new **** to stream? Now that I stopped getting the 1 movie delivered I noticed there doesn't seem to be anything new to stream at all which sucks.
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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]I BARELY watch anything on Netflix's stream anymore anyway, its like 99% crap.Dracula68
I was just gonna ask do they ever get new **** to stream? Now that I stopped getting the 1 movie delivered I noticed there doesn't seem to be anything new to stream at all which sucks.

It seems to trickle in, almost one or two a week, I wished they had a set date like redbox does every Tuesday :(

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That kinda sucks, but those movies are pretty bad for the most part, every once in a while I'll see one that's good. This isn't really Netflix's fault, it's all the movie studios who are having trouble adapting to new technology. What I really think Netflix should do is get rid of shipping entirely, keep the monthly streaming, and add an option to rent or buy non-streaming movies. In other words, for the movies that Netflix doesn't have a deal with you can buy a one-time streaming view, or you can pay what you might for a DVD and have that movie available to watch instantly forever.

I think the problem is the movie studios, Netflix is a horrible deal for them. Even with all the money that Netflix pays to get movies on their streaming surface, movie studios still lose money because people are paying so much less than they would be if they were buying the individual DVDs. Movie studios are souring on streaming and trying to support pay-per-view instead.

theone86

The thing is, however, were it not for streaming many people would never watch those movies anyway, let alone buy them. So no, I doubt the studios really lose money from this.

And yeah, Starz Play is a bunch of crap mostly. Although I suppose I may lament the loss of such timeless greats as 'The Santa Clause 2', 'Tales From the Hood' and old episodes of 'Cagney and Lacey'.

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What exactly is the content that Starz provides for Netflix? None of the articles that I've seen on the subject have given any examples of prominent content that Netflix is losing. Can anyone help me out?
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I hardly ever stream movies, I dislike too many of them. I'll stick to documentaries and tv shows.

The price hike coming in September has me thinking about dropping them entirely, though. I'll see how it goes... I've been a Netflix subscriber for quite some time.

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What exactly is the content that Starz provides for Netflix? None of the articles that I've seen on the subject have given any examples of prominent content that Netflix is losing. Can anyone help me out?xaos
From what I understand, some of the content consists of movies from both Disney and Sony. I think some tv shows from them as well.
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[QUOTE="xaos"]What exactly is the content that Starz provides for Netflix? None of the articles that I've seen on the subject have given any examples of prominent content that Netflix is losing. Can anyone help me out?Hallenbeck77
From what I understand, some of the content consists of movies from both Disney and Sony. I think some tv shows from them as well.

More info at least, but I still feel in the dark. Thanks
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[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="xaos"]What exactly is the content that Starz provides for Netflix? None of the articles that I've seen on the subject have given any examples of prominent content that Netflix is losing. Can anyone help me out?xaos
From what I understand, some of the content consists of movies from both Disney and Sony. I think some tv shows from them as well.

More info at least, but I still feel in the dark. Thanks

Here's an article that might shed a bit more light: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2011/09/netflix-to-lose-starz-its-most-valuable-source-of-new-movies.html
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I don't have cable or interent right now at my house and don't plan on getting either for a long time. I use my iphone to stream netflix to the tv so Netflix is all I have in terms of tv entertainment. I love Netflix and watch maybe 3 things a day on it. That being said I think out of all those movies I have seen I have probably seen the Starz opening 3 or 4 times at most, so this is not a major blow.

I would love for Netflix to beef up the "Docs" category, and to show more movies from the 80's and 90's. I know they are at the mercy of the owners of these movies but these companies really need to get a grip. Most of thier "catalog" is not as valuable as they think. Sure, I might want to watch something like "Night of the Creeps" or its counterpart "Slither" or something like that. But I believe they think by denying these companies the rights to stream these movies we will all rush out and buy the DVD or an Itunes copy or whatever....the majority of us will not. They need to realize that they should take the money that these new companies are offering and run. Then again the media companies are always slow accepting new ways for the population to watch thier stuff