McCain probably has no chance at all against Obama, am I right?

Swing voters will make up lots of numbers for McCain. Just wait.Rhazakna

Stop dreaming, there is no way McCain gonna win.

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Swing voters will make up lots of numbers for McCain. Just wait.Redgarl

Stop dreaming, there is no way McCain gonna win.

I'm not voting for McCain, and I don't really want him to win. I just don't think America is going to elect someone so far left.

You forget about all the old people, and teh hillbillies who don't know what a primary is.cool_baller

If Obama could sell the AARP on his healthcare plan, then he'd probably win.

It seems highly unlikely McCain has any chance of beating him, because when you look at all the total vote counts for each party, the Republican candidates topped out at totals in the tens of thousands while Hillary and Obama almost always ended up with numbers in the hundreds of thousands. So this indicated America as a whole is much more Democrat favoring these days...On top of that McCain is old and his senility might have an effect on how many votes he racks in because it might impair his ability to think, not to mention a risk he'll die in office. He barely has the support of the younger voters, or it might just be because they're all on Obama's side. McCain has also been seen as kind of a war monger so I'm guessing he'll not get a huge slice of the votes because of all the people against the Iraq War. He really has not chance at all and I'm wondering if they should just stop the race right now and call Obama the next president. I mean, it's pretty obvious he's going to win. camreeno360

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Many voters don't just make a partisan selection. McCain is the more moderate of the two canidates. Dems will vote Obama, Republicans will vote McCain.. then I think a lot of the people in between will vote McCain because he's a pretty moderate republican. He is NOT another Bush.

You might think it seems like Obama is going to win because more young people can relate to Obama.. they'd vote for them but they don't really know WHY they would vote for him. They aren't familiar with any of his stances. (At least that's how high schoolers are and many college students. Many aren't even old enough to vote).

[QUOTE="cool_baller"]You forget about all the old people, and teh hillbillies who don't know what a primary is.Rhazakna

If Obama could sell the AARP on his healthcare plan, then he'd probably win.

You forget about all the old people, and teh hillbillies who don't know what a primary is.cool_baller

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]It seems highly unlikely McCain has any chance of beating him, because when you look at all the total vote counts for each party, the Republican candidates topped out at totals in the tens of thousands while Hillary and Obama almost always ended up with numbers in the hundreds of thousands. So this indicated America as a whole is much more Democrat favoring these days...On top of that McCain is old and his senility might have an effect on how many votes he racks in because it might impair his ability to think, not to mention a risk he'll die in office. He barely has the support of the younger voters, or it might just be because they're all on Obama's side. McCain has also been seen as kind of a war monger so I'm guessing he'll not get a huge slice of the votes because of all the people against the Iraq War. He really has not chance at all and I'm wondering if they should just stop the race right now and call Obama the next president. I mean, it's pretty obvious he's going to win. The_Mac_Daddy

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Many voters don't just make a partisan selection. McCain is the more moderate of the two canidates. Dems will vote Obama, Republicans will vote McCain.. then I think a lot of the people in between will vote McCain because he's a pretty moderate republican. He is NOT another Bush.

You might think it seems like Obama is going to win because more young people can relate to Obama.. they'd vote for them but they don't really know WHY they would vote for him. They aren't familiar with any of his stances. (At least that's how high schoolers are and many college students. Many aren't even old enough to vote).

I dont think Obama has a chance against McCain. McCain will destroy him in debates, seriously every time I've seen Obama speak he always seems to dodge any issue and just goes on a generic rant about the problems with America.

If Obama makes Hillary his VP im expecting the democrats to win.Taegukki

If Obama makes Hillary his VP im expecting the democrats to win.Taegukki

Nah...people don't vote for VP.

[QUOTE="Taegukki"]If Obama makes Hillary his VP im expecting the democrats to win.LJS9502_basic

Nah...people don't vote for VP.

100 years in iraq... Our troops need to come. He wants to continue what bush has been doing pretty much in terms of policy.

100 years in iraq... Our troops need to come. He wants to continue what bush has been doing pretty much in terms of policy.

freshgman

Democratic or Republican, doesn't matter. this is the same establishment here.

Anyway, to win this McCain will have to either jump on the same scare tactics that Bush perfected and do it even better than perfect or be utterly brilliant in debates. I don't think Obama is going to be a slouch in debates so I guess we'll see the true colors of yer "moderate" McCain now.

Well, like I said, if you looked at the total vote counts for each candidate in the primaries you'll see that McCain got no where near the number of votes Obama got. And that's talking every single state, if that's wrong. And since the final election is largely based on who has the most popular votes, they viola, that person is pretty much certain to be president. So unless Obama gets assassinated or something like that, I don't see how the total vote counts are going to miraculously going to sway in favor of McCain...camreeno360

I don't really think that's a good comparison considering the Democratic contest was much more divisive than the Republican contest. Because things between Obama and Clinton were so close, more Democrats voted--it was important. The Republican primaries were decided a lot earlier, and McCain was a frontrunner from the beginning, so it wasn't as necessary that people voted, especially in the later primaries.

I think Obama has a very strong chance of winning.

McCain leads the polls against Obama....LJS9502_basic

Not recent ones I've seen. Will try to find a link.

correct me if im wrong but doesnt McCain want to continue the war? Why would america elect him?Tjeremiah1988

Well I don't think people will base their decision on one policy, but it certainly won't be gaining him votes.

correct me if im wrong but doesnt McCain want to continue the war? Why would america elect him?Tjeremiah1988

I could tell you why but it would turn this thread into a 20 page war thread.

Although I will say I would like American troops to come home.

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]correct me if im wrong but doesnt McCain want to continue the war? Why would america elect him?cjek

Well I don't think people will base their decision on one policy, but it certainly won't be gaining him votes.

With just two candidates anyone can win.

Clinton was a sure bet at one time :o

I think it's the other way around.

"Obama probably has no chance at all against McCain."

Rofl at you thinking the youth vote will ever turn out. Kerry, MTV, and P Diddy all had the youth vote ready to go and bring the election in for Kerry. We all know how that turned out right?cametall

While I don't think the youth vote will decide the election I will say that Kerry's "youth vote" is bad comparison, Obama doesn't need MTV to brong out new young voters.

If one is the type to base their policies of P Diddy's advice, there probably also the type that would forget to vote or just not vote at all.

[QUOTE="camreeno360"]It seems highly unlikely McCain has any chance of beating him, because when you look at all the total vote counts for each party, the Republican candidates topped out at totals in the tens of thousands while Hillary and Obama almost always ended up with numbers in the hundreds of thousands. So this indicated America as a whole is much more Democrat favoring these days...On top of that McCain is old and his senility might have an effect on how many votes he racks in because it might impair his ability to think, not to mention a risk he'll die in office. He barely has the support of the younger voters, or it might just be because they're all on Obama's side. McCain has also been seen as kind of a war monger so I'm guessing he'll not get a huge slice of the votes because of all the people against the Iraq War. He really has not chance at all and I'm wondering if they should just stop the race right now and call Obama the next president. I mean, it's pretty obvious he's going to win. The_Mac_Daddy

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Many voters don't just make a partisan selection. McCain is the more moderate of the two canidates. Dems will vote Obama, Republicans will vote McCain.. then I think a lot of the people in between will vote McCain because he's a pretty moderate republican. He is NOT another Bush.

You might think it seems like Obama is going to win because more young people can relate to Obama.. they'd vote for them but they don't really know WHY they would vote for him. They aren't familiar with any of his stances. (At least that's how high schoolers are and many college students. Many aren't even old enough to vote).

He sure seems one when it appears his foriegn policy, War in Iraq plans, and economic plans (or lack thereof) are EXACTLY the same.

Swing voters will make up lots of numbers for McCain. Just wait.Rhazakna

Look what he did to Hillary. She had control of the party. Look what happened.

[QUOTE="freshgman"]

100 years in iraq... Our troops need to come. He wants to continue what bush has been doing pretty much in terms of policy.

DivergeUnify

We still need to get out. There is no reason for us to be in there.

correct me if im wrong but doesnt McCain want to continue the war? Why would america elect him?Tjeremiah1988

McCain is telling the same lies that Bush did. Iraq has no ties with the terrorists that attacked us on 9-11.

McCain is saying that pulling out would make us less safe.

I can't believe people still believe this crap.

The Democrats would win if they could find enough solidarity in their party to make it all the way through an election. The lack of unification has always seemed to be the party's weakest point.

The Republicans made a good choice in McCain. Personally not my choice within the party but he is far enough towards the middle that he could offer to bring changes and something new to the office while still remaining a Republican. That is his strength, he can seek to appease everybody to a greater or lesser extent.

As for what polls say, didn't polls also say Truman lost to Dewey right up to the last minute??