Latest Snowden Poll Results: 55% Say Whistleblower; 34% Say Traitor

A global hero...taking bullshit down to zero

Snowden may be a hero to some but if he is captured by terrorists and the information he has on his laptops can cause damage how quickly do you think he would break under torture? Or would he even make an attempt to resist? Those facts make him dangerous, NSA leaks or not.ad1x2

Everyone breaks under torture. It's just a matter of how far you're willing to go.

A global hero...taking bullshit down to zero

 

wis3boi

i love how nobody realizes that non one ITT is supporting the espionage. it's the other information he stole we have a problem with.

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

ITT: a lot of scum defending U.S. espionage. Ironic how the americans propagate freedom of speech but try to control the flow of information themselves.

JML897

Why does it have to be one side or the other? Why can't I just think everyone involved kinda sucks?

I don't think anyone is really saying "YAY NSA SPYING"

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

ITT: a lot of scum defending U.S. espionage. Ironic how the americans propagate freedom of speech but try to control the flow of information themselves.

nintendoboy16

Why does it have to be one side or the other? Why can't I just think everyone involved kinda sucks?

I don't think anyone is really saying "YAY NSA SPYING"

Exactly. Just because you dislike one side doesn't mean you're siding with the other. The whole situation is a mess.

Why are we talking about Snowden?

When someone blows the whistle on something.

we should focus on what was revealed not the whistleblower.

 

Blue-Sky

agreed

I am a little shocked there is no supreme court case about this yet.  If a local police department had bugged one person's house without a warrant, there'd be a multi-million dollar lawsuit lol.

I'd like to think this is potentially impeachment-level stuff.  You never know.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut I guess the gov't is happy letting us chase the man, not the matter.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Why are we talking about Snowden?

When someone blows the whistle on something.

we should focus on what was revealed not the whistleblower.

 

mrbojangles25

agreed

I am a little shocked there is no supreme court case about this yet.  If a local police department had bugged one person's house without a warrant, there'd be a multi-million dollar lawsuit lol.

I'd like to think this is potentially impeachment-level stuff.  You never know.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut I guess the gov't is happy letting us chase the man, not the matter.

He's both.

He's a whistle-blower and I wish there were more people like him.  He basically ruined his entire life to reveal important information to the American public.  His actions since then may not be the actions of a pure, idealistic hero, but I really respect him for what he did.  What he did took real courage and I can only guess at his motivations but I'd like to think he wanted to do the right thing.

i don't trust people that play with the lives of others for ideals.frannkzappa

He's a whistleblower but not a hero, his actions put a lot of people in danger, and I doubt he did it purely for the goodness of his heart.tagyhag

the only person in danger is hismelf

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]He's a whistleblower but not a hero, his actions put a lot of people in danger, and I doubt he did it purely for the goodness of his heart.wis3boi

the only person in danger is hismelf

The guy is a true patriot, the government are the traitors.

I hope he gets away.  No matter how you feel our governement is way out of control.

I think its hilarious to watch politicans try to make him out to be some kind of traitor. Its almost as if no one in Washington sees the irony behind charging Snowden with espionage for revealing the United States government's spying on its own citizens.

So he's in Russia now? Anyone else see the irony in someone who is critical of a government spying on its citizens having to seek asylum in Russia?Engrish_Major

yeah, a citizen of the so-called "land of the free" has to seek asylum in a place known for oppressing its people for hundreds of years (especially for most of the 20th century)

there is a Yakov Smirnoff joke in there, somewhere...

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]He's a whistleblower but not a hero, his actions put a lot of people in danger, and I doubt he did it purely for the goodness of his heart.nintendoboy16

the only person in danger is hismelf

who did he put in danger?

Not like he leaked CIA secrets about specific agents in critical areas *coughScooterLibbycoughcough*

The guy is a true patriot, the government are the traitors.

OBLOK

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]i don't trust people that play with the lives of others for ideals.Laihendi

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

the only person in danger is hismelf

mrbojangles25

who did he put in danger?

Not like he leaked CIA secrets about specific agents in critical areas *coughScooterLibbycoughcough*

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]He's a whistleblower but not a hero, his actions put a lot of people in danger, and I doubt he did it purely for the goodness of his heart.Ackad

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Uh, no. Say what you will about the government in general, but the people working with them are still people. Just like anyone else.nintendoboy16

who did he put in danger?

Not like he leaked CIA secrets about specific agents in critical areas *coughScooterLibbycoughcough*

[QUOTE="Ackad"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]He's a whistleblower but not a hero, his actions put a lot of people in danger, and I doubt he did it purely for the goodness of his heart.nintendoboy16

Who is going to kill them? Are you listening to yourself?BossPerson

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Who is going to kill them? Are you listening to yourself?nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Who is going to kill them? Are you listening to yourself?SwagSurf

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Who is going to kill them? Are you listening to yourself?nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Who is going to kill them? Are you listening to yourself?SwagSurf

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Okay, I went too far, which is why I edited the post. But still, with the amount of information he has I do think he still put a lot of people in danger. Who knows what else he has. I'm leaving it at that.nintendoboy16

I never knew Droid was a guzzler of Obama c0ck

inb4 im "naive"