Kid got tasered

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]He was asked to yield to others he did not. When police asked him to stand down he did not. Whether or not their actions were warranted he could have sat down and let someone else have a turn. But he did not. It was his own damn fault.Insane00

Dude, did you watch the video. He didn't get a chance to sit down. Whoever wrote the article seemed to leave out the fact that at no point was the lad told to sit down by the cops, they just grabbed him. If the cops had warned him, or ask him to sit down, not the moderater then I would agree, but that isn't the case. The cops got involved as soon as the mic was off. No warning, no justification, not even a reading of his rights, which the cops are required to give him by the constitution by a ruling of the Supreme Court. This is completely a wrong act by the police.

From the looks of the video the police completely over reacted and was pretty much arresting him for nothing.

Yes he resisted arrest, which isn't the smartest thing to do but the vast majority of people would have resisted in those circumstances. The charges should be dropped and the officers should be retrained in the proper usage of a taser.

Hey, if you're stupid enough to try and resist arrest then you deserve whatever you get. I think all the people who said that he didn't deserve to be arrested or didn't deserve to get tasered should also be tasered for being Stupid...Dee Dee Dee. Police acted in a manner to get the suspect under control...just because someone says "Dude don't taser me." doesn't mean they shouldn't taser him. If a murderer said "Dude just let me go, I'll turn myself in." are you gonna let him go? They tried to escort him out, he fought and then he got PWNED!!! Seems justice was served to me.crazygamer1

He hadn't done a great deal to get arrested for, he was unarmed and was not a threat to anyone. Why did they feel the need to taser him?

There's a big different between this man and a murderer.

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]Personally I'm glad he got tasered as even after he made his point he continued to act like an @ss just for the sake of it and resisted.drbob

What right did the police have to grab him in the first place? He shouted and resisted because the police were assulting him. If someone grabbed you in the street are you saying that it would be childish to call for help? If a member of the public so much as taps an officer on the shoulder they can be charged with assault. The same standard should apply to police officers where no offence has been comitted.

Going on for too long and spouting outlandish theories at a question and answer session may be annoying but it doesn't consitiute a breach of the peace. The police grossly overreacted. You may not like that the police have been portrayed in a bad light by this incident, I'm glad those police have been exposed as trigger happy goons.

This cnn videoshows more of what happened before and after the police grabbed him, including one officer grinning as the taser is applied:

Yes, and if you watch it closely it splits right before the cops start to grab him. So once again, who knows? Show me a video that is not spliced and then I will decide.

"If someone grabbed you in the street are you saying that it would be childish to call for help?"

That is completely over-simplified and circumstantial example. It's not like this guy's life was threatened. His civil rights possibly, but that gives him the right to act like a child? As I said, there are other avenues to combat injustice instead of throwing a fit. From what I have seen, I think both parties are at fault and reacted poorly.Tell me this: what did his raving accomplish? It was unfair to Senator Kerry and the other students who wished to ask him questions. It was not conducive to anything other than to his ego and his self-righteousness. The cops were at fault, but his reaction and drawn out drama was ridiculous and completely unnecessary.

Show me the entire video, as I can't seem to find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM_bfTAbY8s&mode=related&search=

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Tough call on that one. Freedom of speech vs. disturbing the peace.sonicare

ehh its not relly disturbing the peace if kerry was WILLING to answer his questions...someone was just being uptight about it...kinda senseless to taser him....SOME police let power go to their head. its a shame that some have to ruin the image for all =/

[QUOTE="sonicare"]Tough call on that one. Freedom of speech vs. disturbing the peace.ArmoredAshes

ehh its not relly disturbing the peace if kerry was WILLING to answer his questions...someone was just being uptight about it...kinda senseless to taser him....SOME police let power go to their head. its a shame that some have to ruin the image for all =/

lol...he had it comming :)

EDIT : I CHANGE MY MIND....THE KID DID NOT DESERVE THAT...HE DID NOTHING WRONG....

[QUOTE="sonicare"]Tough call on that one. Freedom of speech vs. disturbing the peace.ArmoredAshes

ehh its not relly disturbing the peace if kerry was WILLING to answer his questions...someone was just being uptight about it...kinda senseless to taser him....SOME police let power go to their head. its a shame that some have to ruin the image for all =/

I guess I just don't know the circumstances of the event. There is no law against being a jerk, so he shouldn't have been arrested for that. It just depends on whether he was in a private or public university, etc. If it occurred on private property, then the owners do have the right to have disruptive people removed and that would not violate his freedom of expression.

Does anyone here even know the entire story other than seeing the video? Read the news people.

The kid had the microphone for a minute and a half, continued to yell questions at Kerry in it. He was told to stop because his alloted time was up for questioning, he didn't. When his microphone was cut he got mad and started yelling some more.

That's not infringment of free speech, that's disorderly conduct during an open forum questioning. He's an ass for disrupting it.

Even after they tried to LEAD him out, he resisted. When resisted, he was forced to the ground and told to calm down. He didn't, and was tasered and forcibly removed.

The cops were extremely patient. He refused to follow the forum rules, acted disorderly, yelled, resisted arrest, and refused to calm down.

How in the hell can you defend him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE76LQwT6qA

Just because the kid says he's being arrested does not mean he is ( sounds to me like he is exagerating) looks to me like he was being escorted until near the exit when he tried to escape, this is where the cops realize they will need to arrest him, and surprise surprise, he resists and they warn him that they'll taze him if he doesn't back down. He continues to resist and he gets zapped (where he once again exaggerates the pain and cries and whines). And if you look at the vid closely you'll see that he was warned by the cops to back down and his response is 'can I finish?' so they let him go a little longer and then he asks about skulls and bones which is when the cops realized that he just wants some attention. Cuts in line, doesn't allow kerry to speak, is warned, doesn't back down, is escorted, resists, is arrested, resists, is warned he'll be tased, resists, get tased. Don't see any injustice here.

Does anyone here even know the entire story other than seeing the video? Read the news people.

The kid had the microphone for a minute and a half, continued to yell questions at Kerry in it. He was told to stop because his alloted time was up for questioning, he didn't. When his microphone was cut he got mad and started yelling some more.

That's not infringment of free speech, that's disorderly conduct during an open forum questioning. He's an ass for disrupting it.

Even after they tried to LEAD him out, he resisted. When resisted, he was forced to the ground and told to calm down. He didn't, and was tasered and forcibly removed.

The cops were extremely patient. He refused to follow the forum rules, acted disorderly, yelled, resisted arrest, and refused to calm down.

How in the hell can you defend him?

Donkey_Puncher

[QUOTE="crazygamer1"]Hey, if you're stupid enough to try and resist arrest then you deserve whatever you get. I think all the people who said that he didn't deserve to be arrested or didn't deserve to get tasered should also be tasered for being Stupid...Dee Dee Dee. Police acted in a manner to get the suspect under control...just because someone says "Dude don't taser me." doesn't mean they shouldn't taser him. If a murderer said "Dude just let me go, I'll turn myself in." are you gonna let him go? They tried to escort him out, he fought and then he got PWNED!!! Seems justice was served to me.zeus_gb

He hadn't done a great deal to get arrested for, he was unarmed and was not a threat to anyone. Why did they feel the need to taser him?

There's a big different between this man and a murderer.

Yes I know there's a difference between a murderer and him...that's not what I was getting at. I'm getting at that if a police officer is arresting someone that just because that person says something in no way has any bearing on what the officer can do. If a person is fleeing a scene and the cops catch him and then he says "Let me go." Do they have to let him go? No. If a drug dealer says "Let me go." Do they let him go? No. If a dumb **** says "Dont tase me bro." Does it mean they shouldn't tase him? No. The police approached him and asked him to leave, he didn't do so and just brushed them off continuing to yell out questions, they then grabbed him attempting to escort him out, he resisted, then they tried to arrest him, he resisted still, they told him to calm down or they'll taser him, still he resisted, so he was tasered. Seems to me the police gave him plenty of oppurtunity to calm down, but he wanted to be stupid and he payed for it. If he would've just left after the first police officer told him to leave, he would've avoided all of this.

So if I repeatedly tape my own practical jokes and go "out of line" when speaking to someone we've given authority (American voters, I guess), it qualifies me for a tasering?

BranKetra

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

So if I repeatedly tape my own practical jokes and go "out of line" when speaking to someone we've given authority (American voters, I guess), it qualifies me for a tasering?

Elraptor

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="BranKetra"]

So if I repeatedly tape my own practical jokes and go "out of line" when speaking to someone we've given authority (American voters, I guess), it qualifies me for a tasering?

Darthmatt

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="BranKetra"]

So if I repeatedly tape my own practical jokes and go "out of line" when speaking to someone we've given authority (American voters, I guess), it qualifies me for a tasering?

Mumbles527

So he was being a little disruptive. Thats no reason to arrest him and accuse him of inciting a riot, which he obviously wasn't doing. And to all the people saying that they needed to taser him to subdue him, there were at least 7 or 8 cops there and one of him. If they needed a taser, they are pathetic.Mumbles527

Does anyone here even know the entire story other than seeing the video? Read the news people.

Donkey_Puncher

Try looking a the video evidence and using your own brain to come to reasoned conclusion. Some of the news coverage has deliberatley distorted the facts, which are clearly visible on the available videos.

[QUOTE="Mumbles527"] So he was being a little disruptive. Thats no reason to arrest him and accuse him of inciting a riot, which he obviously wasn't doing. And to all the people saying that they needed to taser him to subdue him, there were at least 7 or 8 cops there and one of him. If they needed a taser, they are pathetic.TSCombo

gj to the campus police they did exactly what they were supposed to do. tazers and pepperspray would be an appropiate weapon in these situations i dont know of the campus police had pepper spray but it dont matter they both do the same thing but with different effect

that kid screamed ow and help for a reason and judging by the AOL polls he succedded

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

Does anyone here even know the entire story other than seeing the video? Read the news people.

drbob

Try looking a the video evidence and using your own brain to come to reasoned conclusion. Some of the news coverage has deliberatley distorted the facts, which are clearly visible on the available videos.

The reporters were there, as were the eye witnesses and faculty members who gave the report to the news agencies.

Use YOUR own brain. The video only shows a blurry upset and struggle with a screaming kid. Which is more distorted in telling the real story?

[QUOTE="TSCombo"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"] So he was being a little disruptive. Thats no reason to arrest him and accuse him of inciting a riot, which he obviously wasn't doing. And to all the people saying that they needed to taser him to subdue him, there were at least 7 or 8 cops there and one of him. If they needed a taser, they are pathetic.Mumbles527

Yes he was on the ground, but he was still resisting arest and refusing to cooperate, he said he would leave, not that he would go with police

[QUOTE="TSCombo"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"] So he was being a little disruptive. Thats no reason to arrest him and accuse him of inciting a riot, which he obviously wasn't doing. And to all the people saying that they needed to taser him to subdue him, there were at least 7 or 8 cops there and one of him. If they needed a taser, they are pathetic.Mumbles527

Show me the entire video, as I can't seem to find it.Rekunta

This NBC video seems to have the entire incident without cuts.

The campus newspaper, which is probably best placed to get eye witness accounts - does not state that the kid (Andrew Meyer) "pushed in line", simply that he shouted out asking kerry to answer everyones questions when he realised he wasn't going to get a turn at the mic. Kerry agreed to this, you can see in this video where Meyer politely waits to ask his question until Kerry prompts him.

[QUOTE="drbob"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

Does anyone here even know the entire story other than seeing the video? Read the news people.

Donkey_Puncher

Try looking a the video evidence and using your own brain to come to reasoned conclusion. Some of the news coverage has deliberatley distorted the facts, which are clearly visible on the available videos.

The reporters were there, as were the eye witnesses and faculty members who gave the report to the news agencies.

Use YOUR own brain. The video only shows a blurry upset and struggle with a screaming kid. Which is more distorted in telling the real story?

You're joking right?

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

Show me the entire video, as I can't seem to find it.drbob

This NBC video seems to have the entire incident without cuts.

The campus newspaper, which is probably best placed to get eye witness accounts - does not state that the kid (Andrew Meyer) "pushed in line", simply that he shouted out asking kerry to answer everyones questions when he realised he wasn't going to get a turn at the mic. Kerry agreed to this, you can see in this video where Meyer politely waits to ask his question until Kerry prompts him.

Someone should make a flash game where you're the security guard with a tazer that has ulimited ammo, and you're on top of a hill and theirs hoards of hippies and college kids swarming around you, trying to get to the top. There would be upgrades of course like, i don't know, maybe a range upgrade, or a tazer spread upgrade to taze multiple hippies and college kids at once, and then maybe there would be a sniper tazer, to toast the hippies from afar.

Towards the end of the game, you could get riot gear and baton, and tear gas can be one of the side upgrades you can get! :D