If there was a vote to repeal "Incest" would you vote for it or against it?

Well, we're already headed down that slippery slope of letting anyone marry whoever they want, "because they're born that way"

So i suppose if someone is legitimately attracted to their immediate family, and wants to date/marry them, who's to say it's unnatural?

Just come out and ask what you really want to ask: Do you find incest acceptable?

If two adults consent to marry each other, then go for it. With that said, I find the thought of incestuous relationships disgusting.

i'd vote for it. everything should stay in the family.

Pooping in toilets is unnatural. Incest causes deformities and gene mutations. Its more a question of whats harmful.

Yep.

I could see that being valid back when there were only a few million humans, but I think we've gone past that. I'm not saying that inbreeding is good, but it usually doesn't result in horrible mutants. That's a crteation of science fiction.

But yeah...you certainly don't want big chunks of the human population inbreeding. But that's also kind of a non-issue. It's not as if all guys out there really want to bang their sisters and their moms, and the only thing stopping them is the fact that it's illegal. Legal, not legal, whatever. The number of people willing to do it is still gonna be so small that it's not gonna have any substantial effect on a species with a population of 7 billion.

Liquor and Tobacco are harmful.

They're both legal.

I'd like to add that there are all sorts of genetic diseases (some of them painful or deadly) which have a high chance of being passed down to children if the parent produces offspring.

Yet, we still don't make it illegal for a guy to have kids if he's been diagnosed with Huntington's disease.

Slow down boys, ill make this a a response to both of you. Cheeseburgers are harmful as well, you obviously cant ban everything harmful it comes down to how harmful it is... murder? pretty harmful, banned. Trying to kiss grizzly bears, pretty harmful, but only to you, not banned.

And yea, dont know a ton about huntingtons disease... but i do remember seeing something on tv about some couple passing a terrible disease down to like their first 3 kids and thinking, someone should really stop these two from having kids. Tad bit more difficult to regulate though.

Religious view

This. Pretty much whoever engages in this type of behavior would be ostracized.

I'd vote for the "I don't care" but I don't see it.

If you want your kids to come out special, that's fine by me.

I don't care what people do as long as all involved are the age of consent and are willing participants. I just hope they take steps not to reproduce because obviously there are risks.

agreed.

As people have mentioned, there are diseases which are very likely to be passed down to the offspring, and we cannot stop those people from reproducing.If a person with Huntington's disease (for example), has a child, that child has a 50% chance of being born with it.

Whats wrong with just making it illegal, inbreeding results in higher genetic abnormalities and weaker immune systems for offspring... seems fine keeping things the way they are. If someone had an argument for why inbreeding would be beneficial, that might make a little more sense.

Where are you ostracizing them to exactly? small pro inbreeding communities? because that only exacerbates the issue.

But i think more importantly, why? why would anyone be pro incest?

How else would Adam and Eve populate the world?

Did God create a harem for Adam to play around in, so there would be genetic diversity?

Im usually all for letting who ever marry they want. But I think it would be unfair to their future children, I don't know the stats off the top of my head but I know the child is more likely to have physically and/or mental deficiencies which is something we should avoid when populating

Only over a long term.

It would require multiple generations of incest to occur within the same family.

Ah alright I didn't know that, then they should go for it as long as they aren't forced into for some sick cult or community

As long as they're both consenting adults, why not.

What if a man wants to be in a relationship with his daughter or a woman with her son? I agree that two adults can do whatever they want and that you can't help who you fall in love with, but that's too much even for me. What if these people have children of their own? How twisted would it be to tell the child that his dad is also his uncle?

Are you telling me that christians condemn homosexuality but have no problem with incest? Also, you completely lose credibility when you mention the bible.

I don't know, the possibility of another Joffrey out there is terrifying.

I don't necessarily agree with the practice but if it's two consenting adults then who am I to say they shouldn't?

Only if both people are sterile.

And even then, the idea of parents being able to groom their kids for when they turn 18 is pretty horrible.

Only with sterilization. Otherwise society has to pick up the problems caused by their decision.

Even then I'm against it.....I've read some psychological studies that say there is always a victim due to the balance of power in the relationship.

What if an incest couple uses a surrogate to make a baby or adopt a child?

I should marry my cousin and adopt a child

I guess that OT is really on life support now since we need @mrduckbears3to post so many topics to keep this place alive...

Also, I don't care what people do in their bedroom as long as it isn't hurting myself or some unwilling participant.

Tommen and Myrcella aren't so bad, but no one wants a demonspawn like Joffrey.

Just don't have kids

very much this.

idgaf.

if you wanna bang your sister, and you're capable to take care of your three-eyed, clubbed foot child, go for it.

1.) Please quote where i mentioned "The Bible". I Believe it was you who first mentioned that book.

2.) I wouldn't want to say "Christians believe ________" Because that's far too close to a "no-true Scotsman" fallacy. There are many sects of Christianity, each with different interpretations of the same book. For example, not all Christians condemn homosexuality.

****ing bigots, generalizing religions.

Only if they are the age of consent, otherwise absolutely not.

That is a really serious concern, also the grooming of your children as someone mentioned above. Of course, I doubt a law would stop such people from these types of harmful relationships

i see nothing wrong with it, according to the bible we all came from 2 people anyway. i wouldnt mind having sex with some of my cousins...

that's not really a good reason for it

1) "How else would Adam and Eve populate the world" You believe two people made all humans.

2) How does that work exactly? Some christians believe homosexuals will go to hell and others don't and whoever gets it right wins? How can you base your entire life and view of the world on a book that no one knows what it really says? And did you just call me a bigot?

i am not for it due to all the birth defects and poor health that come from incest.

1.) You're telling me what i believe now?

2.) I just called you a bigot for generalizing an entire group of people in a negative light.

1) Huh? You said it yourself.

2) I was referring to your first comment where you mock homosexuals but are ok with incest.

1.) No i never said that at all

2.) I didn't mock homosexuality at all, I simply compared different peoples attractions

For. Consensual relationships between two adults, related or not, is nobody else's business.

Though, the paperwork involved in marriage might get a little confusing, all things considered.

Lol, imagine going on a date with a cute girl and when she starts talking shit about her ex. "He sounds like an asshole", "Yeah he is, but all big brothers are, right?" "Wait what!?". No better way to chase a man away.

I'd abstain from voting. I think it's sick, but I ain't gonna stand in the way of them being together. Thing I'd be concerned about are those defects.

What legal reasons are there for the prohibition to exist where it does? Because as far as most cases of incest go its illegal on grounds such as child sex abuse from a parent or older sibling. Where it concerns adults is it a prohibition of marriage? Or is is a prohibition of sexual engagement? Or a prohibition of reproduction?

Another thing to look at though is why are the laws being repealed, because it might not be an appeal for or against it For instance in some states (looking at the Wikipedia entry for Laws regarding incest), some states have penalties of up to...

Life imprisonment - Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee.

25 yearsimprisonment - Kansas, Nebraska, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, Wyoming, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky.

20 years imprisonment - Massachusetts, New York, New Hampshire, Maine, Pennsylvania, and Vermont

15 years imprisonment - Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, Virginia and West Virginia

14 years imprisonment - California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Idaho

10 years imprisonment - North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Minnesota

5 years imprisonment - 5 years imprisonment in Hawaii, Florida

Now, in no way do I feel that incest warrants such severe penalties. Maybe they simply want to repeal the laws because of the unnecessarily large sentences associated with them.

Personally, in a legal sense it shouldn't be outlawed for consenting adults, but I do take issue with sexual reproduction, that's something I feel should be prohibited, otherwise it's very much a victimless issue except when children are concerned due to higher potential for birth defects.

Incest creates many possible, and probable problems with an infant if it is conceived in this manner. So why the heck would I vote for it.

I can't believe that there has been this many people saying they would vote for it. Bunch of first Cousin, and Sister rapers I tell ya.

there's already laws against rape and sexual abuse