If Mexico and Canada invade the United States

[QUOTE="johnd13"]

Didn' t you know? The US always win.

Dexter-010

LOL. Which war did the US ever won? None. Haha

QFT

[QUOTE="Dexter-010"]

[QUOTE="johnd13"]

Didn' t you know? The US always win.

pspdseagle

LOL. Which war did the US ever won? None. Haha

QFT

The U.S. has never lost a War either, only the Vietnam conflict half way around the world that posed no threat to the United States mainland. Russia had its Afghanistan problems in the 1980's.

It could be stated accurately that the U.S. played the biggest part in winning WW2 (tied with Russia). Keep in mind the Pacific theatre as well.

Also, American rebels won the Revolutionary War, they weren't technically a U.S. yet, but Independence had been declared.

The United States won against the Confederate States in the Civil War.

Oh, and yes, the United States (principally) has beaten Iraq.

Surprisingly, I'm more afraid of Mexico.

[QUOTE="johnd13"]

Didn' t you know? The US always win.

toast_burner

I'd laugh until I woke up from the dream I was having.

Canada would fail as miserably as the US when they attempted to invade them 200 years earlier. Mexico? *laughs*

[QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

[QUOTE="Dexter-010"]

LOL. Which war did the US ever won? None. Haha

AFBrat77

QFT

The U.S. has never lost a War either, only the Vietnam conflict half way around the world that posed no threat to the United States mainland. Russia had its Afghanistan problems in the 1980's.

It could be stated accurately that the U.S. played the biggest part in winning WW2 (tied with Russia). Keep in mind the Pacific theatre as well.

Also, American rebels won the Revolutionary War, they weren't technically a U.S. yet, but Independence had been declared.

The United States won against the Confederate States in the Civil War.

Oh, and yes, the United States (principally) has beaten Iraq.

[QUOTE="johnd13"]

Didn' t you know? The US always win.

toast_burner

[QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

[QUOTE="Dexter-010"]

LOL. Which war did the US ever won? None. Haha

AFBrat77

QFT

The U.S. has never lost a War either, only the Vietnam conflict half way around the world that posed no threat to the United States mainland.

The u.s is invincible!!! So was every other great empire across history. The u.s will eventually fall, but it won't be because of an invasion from Canada.

Canada and what army? The Princess Patricia Light Infantry? Please. The US would curbstomp both of them. And then Mexico would probably be taken over by the drug cartels their military is BARELY beating.

LOL. Which war did the US ever won? None. Haha

Dexter-010

Iraq, Afghanistan, The Gulf War, World War 2, The American Revolution, etc.

Need I go on?

Canada and what army? The Princess Patricia Light Infantry? Please. The US would curbstomp both of them. And then Mexico would probably be taken over by the drug cartels their military is BARELY beating.

airshocker

They would ask the Queen for use of the British army.chessmaster1989

So Canada + 5,000 royal marines. Man, those odds don't look good at all.

i think Mexico would prove much more difficult to fight and hold down then Canada.

I always get the impression that between modern day Canada and modern day USA, that like Canada would be taken over in like a weekend. Everything that matters is like within 100 miles of the US-Canadian border, the rest of the country is the frontier.

and i have hard time imagining every day Canadians going into the woods to wage guerrilla war. Can totally see Mexicans though doing this and perhaps doing it very well.

this thread reminded me of this movie. Canadian Bacon. fvcking love that movie :P

"Like Maple Syrup, Canada's evil oozes over the United States, how long will we remain silent to the screams?!" :lol:

If there was an America: Total War, I would be playing the sh*t out of that right now.

If there was an America: Total War, I would be playing the sh*t out of that right now.

airshocker

If there was an America: Total War, I would be playing the sh*t out of that right now.

airshocker

Why would we invade the US? Who will buy our resources if we invade them. [QUOTE="airshocker"]

If there was an America: Total War, I would be playing the sh*t out of that right now.

Ace6301

Yeah, if it was made in a modern setting. I didn't like Empire much. Was very buggy.

It's called Empire: Total War

toast_burner

I'm talkin' about a MODERN one.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

It's called Empire: Total War

airshocker

I'm talkin' about a MODERN one.

I could see them both taking over a few northern and southwestern (not Texas though) states but thanks to our huge military and the 2nd amendment, I don't think they will go farther than that. Some posters here seem to be really underestimating them both.

Of course, never going to be happen. All of them are allies and nobody would gain anything out of it.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

It's called Empire: Total War

Fightingfan

I'm talkin' about a MODERN one.

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

QFT

toast_burner

The U.S. has never lost a War either, only the Vietnam conflict half way around the world that posed no threat to the United States mainland. Russia had its Afghanistan problems in the 1980's.

It could be stated accurately that the U.S. played the biggest part in winning WW2 (tied with Russia). Keep in mind the Pacific theatre as well.

Also, American rebels won the Revolutionary War, they weren't technically a U.S. yet, but Independence had been declared.

The United States won against the Confederate States in the Civil War.

Oh, and yes, the United States (principally) has beaten Iraq.

In essence American rebels did beat England in the Revolution....fact.

The U.S. pulled out of the Vietnam "conflict" because of political pressure, at that point the U.S. had not lost. South Vietnam was left to fend for itself and South Vietnam lost.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

The U.S. has never lost a War either, only the Vietnam conflict half way around the world that posed no threat to the United States mainland. Russia had its Afghanistan problems in the 1980's.

It could be stated accurately that the U.S. played the biggest part in winning WW2 (tied with Russia). Keep in mind the Pacific theatre as well.

Also, American rebels won the Revolutionary War, they weren't technically a U.S. yet, but Independence had been declared.

The United States won against the Confederate States in the Civil War.

Oh, and yes, the United States (principally) has beaten Iraq.

AFBrat77

In essence American rebels did beat England in the Revolution....fact.

The U.S. pulled out of the Vietnam "conflict" because of political pressure, at that point the U.S. had not lost. South Vietnam was left to fend for itself and South Vietnam lost.

America lost the Vietnam war - Fact

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

I'm talkin' about a MODERN one.

Ace6301

I think geographical location would be more of a variable.

If Castro did it to Batista, and if the rebels can do it to Qadaffi, I'm sure a 3rd world nation could do it to America.

I know Castro took the highest parts of the island of Cuba, and would go from the top to the bottom to where he could ultimately walk into Havana.

The rebels I know would ambush Qadaffi soldiers, and steal their equipment(tanks, anti aircraft guns, etc..)

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

The U.S. has never lost a War either, only the Vietnam conflict half way around the world that posed no threat to the United States mainland. Russia had its Afghanistan problems in the 1980's.

It could be stated accurately that the U.S. played the biggest part in winning WW2 (tied with Russia). Keep in mind the Pacific theatre as well.

Also, American rebels won the Revolutionary War, they weren't technically a U.S. yet, but Independence had been declared.

The United States won against the Confederate States in the Civil War.

Oh, and yes, the United States (principally) has beaten Iraq.

AFBrat77

In essence American rebels did beat England in the Revolution....fact.

The U.S. pulled out of the Vietnam "conflict" because of political pressure, at that point the U.S. had not lost. South Vietnam was left to fend for itself and South Vietnam lost.

This is like saying Russia didn't lose world war 1 because it withdrew from the war because of at-home political pressure to end it (The Communists who took over the country in this case infact had popular support to end the war). Despite not only taking heavy losses, and not meeting war objectives but also losing territory.

the Vietnam war was a loss, blame it on political pressure if you want, but it is considered a loss.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

The U.S. has never lost a War either, only the Vietnam conflict half way around the world that posed no threat to the United States mainland. Russia had its Afghanistan problems in the 1980's.

It could be stated accurately that the U.S. played the biggest part in winning WW2 (tied with Russia). Keep in mind the Pacific theatre as well.

Also, American rebels won the Revolutionary War, they weren't technically a U.S. yet, but Independence had been declared.

The United States won against the Confederate States in the Civil War.

Oh, and yes, the United States (principally) has beaten Iraq.

AFBrat77

In essence American rebels did beat England in the Revolution....fact.

The U.S. pulled out of the Vietnam "conflict" because of political pressure, at that point the U.S. had not lost. South Vietnam was left to fend for itself and South Vietnam lost.

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]America posed no threat to the UK yet they won the revolution. No matter how you twist it America lost the Vietnam war.

Fightingfan

In essence American rebels did beat England in the Revolution....fact.

The U.S. pulled out of the Vietnam "conflict" because of political pressure, at that point the U.S. had not lost. South Vietnam was left to fend for itself and South Vietnam lost.

Honestly I think it was largely political pressure in the U.S. that caused the Americans to pull out of Vietnam. We could have easily wiped North Vietnam off the map, though the Vietcong were troublesome. But we were in the midst of Nixon's talks with China and we didn't want to go crazy over there. We wanted China on our side as China and the then Soviet Union were a bit adversarial.

Americans did not care about JFK's "domino theory", which didn't happen anyways. How many countries are communist these days? Case in point.

Oh, and by the way, China isn't really communist anymore anyways. So does that mean America won? Lot of capitalism there these days.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Rich3232"] The U.S. is not able to do the same. Rich3232

I don't know what world you live in, but in the really real world here the US law enforcement has had nothing but resounding success in stopping drug traffic.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

In essence American rebels did beat England in the Revolution....fact.

The U.S. pulled out of the Vietnam "conflict" because of political pressure, at that point the U.S. had not lost. South Vietnam was left to fend for itself and South Vietnam lost.

AFBrat77

Honestly I think it was largely political pressure in the U.S. that caused the Americans to pull out of Vietnam. We could have easily wiped North Vietnam off the map, though the Vietcong were troublesome. But we were in the midst of Nixon's talks with China and we didn't want to go crazy over there. We wanted China on our side as China and the then Soviet Union were a bit adversarial.

Americans did not care about JFK's "domino theory", which didn't happen anyways. How many countries are communist these days? Case in point.

Between the tacos and burrito traps to the south and the bacon burger and beer traps to the north you fat **** wouldnt stand a chance.:D

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] China is still communist so the domino theory was never initiated = America lost. toast_burner

Honestly I think it was largely political pressure in the U.S. that caused the Americans to pull out of Vietnam. We could have easily wiped North Vietnam off the map, though the Vietcong were troublesome. But we were in the midst of Nixon's talks with China and we didn't want to go crazy over there. We wanted China on our side as China and the then Soviet Union were a bit adversarial.

Americans did not care about JFK's "domino theory", which didn't happen anyways. How many countries are communist these days? Case in point.

I don't know, he seems to think China is still communist but it really isn't. Thats his criteria for why he thinks America lost, but going by that America didn't lose ;)

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

Honestly I think it was largely political pressure in the U.S. that caused the Americans to pull out of Vietnam. We could have easily wiped North Vietnam off the map, though the Vietcong were troublesome. But we were in the midst of Nixon's talks with China and we didn't want to go crazy over there. We wanted China on our side as China and the then Soviet Union were a bit adversarial.

Americans did not care about JFK's "domino theory", which didn't happen anyways. How many countries are communist these days? Case in point.

AFBrat77

I don't know, he seems to think China is still communist but it really isn't. Thats his criteria for why he thinks America lost, but going by that they didn't ;)

[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I don't know what world you live in, but in the really real world here the US law enforcement has had nothing but resounding success in stopping drug traffic.

ristactionjakso

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

In essence American rebels did beat England in the Revolution....fact.

The U.S. pulled out of the Vietnam "conflict" because of political pressure, at that point the U.S. had not lost. South Vietnam was left to fend for itself and South Vietnam lost.

AFBrat77

Honestly I think it was largely political pressure in the U.S. that caused the Americans to pull out of Vietnam. We could have easily wiped North Vietnam off the map, though the Vietcong were troublesome. But we were in the midst of Nixon's talks with China and we didn't want to go crazy over there. We wanted China on our side as China and the then Soviet Union were a bit adversarial.

Americans did not care about JFK's "domino theory", which didn't happen anyways. How many countries are communist these days? Case in point.

It can be argued that the domino theory has SOME credence to it, and that the paranoia around it wasn't entirely unjustified. not to mention Vietnam, China are still 'officialy' communist. in Mongolia the communist are a major party, and North Korea is more or less the same Stalinist society it was in the 1950's under the name "juche".

Personally I see many similarities between the Vietnam war and the Afghanistan war. in both cases the rebels have a safe haven, granted we can bomb them but it nontheless keeps the US - as the occupying army - on it's heels. your never entirely in total control of the country if you cannot completely wipe out the opposition. in Afghanistan the Taliban fighters can run across to the tribal zone territories in Pakistan, where the Pakistani's seem only really interested when the Pakistani Taliban decide they're going to attack Pakistan. Whereas in Vietnam the NVA and VC had north Vietnam, and America was unwilling to march in, not to mention worried that it might create a repeat episode of the Korean war with China spilling in from the north.

and i fear the moment America and NATO leaves Afghanistan, in a matter of 5 years or less Afghanistan will collapse again. except unlike the Communist, it'll be a cess pool for terrorists and Islamists nut-jobs.

[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I don't know what world you live in, but in the really real world here the US law enforcement has had nothing but resounding success in stopping drug traffic.

ristactionjakso

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]They still lost.

toast_burner

I don't know, he seems to think China is still communist but it really isn't. Thats his criteria for why he thinks America lost, but going by that they didn't ;)

Aren't they a bit more capitalist these days? If so then we can count it as an American win. Certainly the domino effect is dead, unless capitalism represents the dominos.

Which reminds me, the U.S. won the Cold War vs the Soviet Union. Fact.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

I don't know, he seems to think China is still communist but it really isn't. Thats his criteria for why he thinks America lost, but going by that they didn't ;)

AFBrat77

Aren't they a bit more capitalist these days? If so then we can count it as an American win. Certainly the domino effect is dead, unless we call the spread of capitalism the dominos.

Which reminds me, the U.S. won the Cold War vs the Soviet Union. Fact.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

In essence American rebels did beat England in the Revolution....fact.

The U.S. pulled out of the Vietnam "conflict" because of political pressure, at that point the U.S. had not lost. South Vietnam was left to fend for itself and South Vietnam lost.

AFBrat77

Honestly I think it was largely political pressure in the U.S. that caused the Americans to pull out of Vietnam. We could have easily wiped North Vietnam off the map, though the Vietcong were troublesome. But we were in the midst of Nixon's talks with China and we didn't want to go crazy over there. We wanted China on our side as China and the then Soviet Union were a bit adversarial.

Americans did not care about JFK's "domino theory", which didn't happen anyways.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

I don't know, he seems to think China is still communist but it really isn't. Thats his criteria for why he thinks America lost, but going by that they didn't ;)

AFBrat77

Aren't they a bit more capitalist these days? If so then we can count it as an American win. Certainly the domino effect is dead, unless capitalism represents the dominos.

Which reminds me, the U.S. won the Cold War vs the Soviet Union. Fact.

I'd root for both Mexico and Canada.

No. The US provides weapons to Mexico. They would cut them off if they invaded. :P

Vietnam was not a military defeat people! The US backed out because of how negative it was, and it wasn't worth it,, so we left.SonyNintendoFan

If you can't win against a technologically inferior opponent in a war lasting over a decade, you lost.

The whole Idea is asinine. The United Stated would most deffinately win. Canada has a pathetic millatary and stays nuetral in the state of world affairs inless The Queen dictates otherwise. Mexico? Are you serious? Their writing pamplets on how to send their people over here because they have no money and resourses. The only way "mexico" would invade is if it was by the gangs and druglords and we would still easily win. Not to say that what ever damage they caused wouldn't be devaststating. Any one with a pulse and a head full of anger can shock the nation. Just look at Connecticutt.....WhatWouldJoshDo