How is marijuana different than other banned drugs?

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="bloodling"]

It sure can, especially if you're driving.

It's the straw that broke the camel's back.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]I pretty much think that all drugs should be legalized, actually, but hey, that's just me, and the last time I expressed that opinion here, I was insulted. I think that the main arguments for the legalization of marijuana (and not for other drugs) is because of its medical benefits and because of its overall tame nature. It's actually 'better' for you than alcohol or tobacco, so people think that since those substances are legal, marijuana should be too...especially since it can be used medicinally, and has been proven to be effective in such circumstances. There are other, more political arguments for the legalization of marijuana, such as if it were legal, it'd actually be easier to control, or we could tax it and it'd be good for the economy, etc. Some people also just think that people should have to the right to legally choose what they want to put into their bodies. As for me? I agree with everything I've written.bloodling

You think ALL drugs should be legalized? You can't be serious.

I have not yet seen a study that indicates that controlled consumption of marijuana is much worse than a similar use of alcohol or other such drugs.GswSir

Statistics are statistics. There are lots of people who aren't responsible and harm themselves.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] I can and I am.bloodling

Well then, may I ask you why cocaine and heroin should be legalized?

I also do think that if drugs were legalized, there'd be more control. I don't really think that usage would increase substantially (especially with hard drugs), but even if it did, that's not really the issue. I know that it's not as simple as this, but I do believe that people should do what they want as long as they don't negatively affect other people, and with more control and fewer ridiculous consequences, I think it'd be safer.

I hate to say this since there are a few users here who tend to pull this card, but I have to leave for a class in a few minutes, so if I stop posting here, that's why. :)

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="GswSir"]True, but so is driving when drunk, yet we do not ban alcohol. testfactor888

I agree, but alcohol does not have any risks of psychosis or schizophrenia.

lies and slander

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/289848-overview

http://www.athealth.com/Consumer/disorders/schizophreniaalcohol.html

Not to the same extent.

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]I pretty much think that all drugs should be legalized, actually, but hey, that's just me, and the last time I expressed that opinion here, I was insulted. I think that the main arguments for the legalization of marijuana (and not for other drugs) is because of its medical benefits and because of its overall tame nature. It's actually 'better' for you than alcohol or tobacco, so people think that since those substances are legal, marijuana should be too...especially since it can be used medicinally, and has been proven to be effective in such circumstances. There are other, more political arguments for the legalization of marijuana, such as if it were legal, it'd actually be easier to control, or we could tax it and it'd be good for the economy, etc. Some people also just think that people should have to the right to legally choose what they want to put into their bodies. As for me? I agree with everything I've written.testfactor888

You think ALL drugs should be legalized? You can't be serious.

[QUOTE="GswSir"]I have not yet seen a study that indicates that controlled consumption of marijuana is much worse than a similar use of alcohol or other such drugs.bloodling

Statistics are statistics. There are lots of people who aren't responsible and harm themselves.

[QUOTE="testfactor888"]

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

I agree, but alcohol does not have any risks of psychosis or schizophrenia.

bloodling

lies and slander

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/289848-overview

http://www.athealth.com/Consumer/disorders/schizophreniaalcohol.html

Not to the same extent.

Alcohol is alot worse for you than Marijuana ever has or ever will be

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="bloodling"]

You think ALL drugs should be legalized? You can't be serious.

RYDERFTN

I personally don't care if its legalized or not. I'm never gonna use it unless I HAD to for medicinal reasons. Truth of the matter is marijuana can be addicting just like anything else. And just like anything else, too much is not good for you. Chemically its not addicting, but behaviorally it can be depending on the person using it.

I personally don't care if its legalized or not. I'm never gonna use it unless I HAD to for medicinal reasons. Truth of the matter is marijuana can be addicting just like anything else. And just like anything else, too much is not good for you. Chemically its not addicting, but behaviorally it can be depending on the person using it.

KamuiFei

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] I can and I am.t3hrubikscube

Well then, may I ask you why cocaine and heroin should be legalized?

I also do think that if drugs were legalized, there'd be more control. I don't really think that usage would increase substantially (especially with hard drugs), but even if it did, that's not really the issue. I know that it's not as simple as this, but I do believe that people should do what they want as long as they don't negatively affect other people, and with more control and fewer ridiculous consequences, I think it'd be safer.

I hate to say this since there are a few users here who tend to pull this card, but I have to leave for a class in a few minutes, so if I stop posting here, that's why. :)

If we handed these drugs to them, we would be responsible for giving it to them. It's like giving them poison that will kill them and then say "Oh well, he took it, it's his fault".

If we handed these drugs to them, we would be responsible for giving it to them. It's like giving them poison that will kill them and then say "Oh well, he took it, it's his fault".

bloodling

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

Well then, may I ask you why cocaine and heroin should be legalized?

bloodling

I also do think that if drugs were legalized, there'd be more control. I don't really think that usage would increase substantially (especially with hard drugs), but even if it did, that's not really the issue. I know that it's not as simple as this, but I do believe that people should do what they want as long as they don't negatively affect other people, and with more control and fewer ridiculous consequences, I think it'd be safer.

I hate to say this since there are a few users here who tend to pull this card, but I have to leave for a class in a few minutes, so if I stop posting here, that's why. :)

If we handed these drugs to them, we would be responsible for giving it to them. It's like giving them poison that will kill them and then say "Oh well, he took it, it's his fault".

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

If we handed these drugs to them, we would be responsible for giving it to them. It's like giving them poison that will kill them and then say "Oh well, he took it, it's his fault".

Jandurin

Legalizing is allowing people to take these things legally.

[QUOTE="RYDERFTN"][QUOTE="testfactor888"] I agree with t3hrubikscube, I think all drugs should be legalized as welltestfactor888

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

Well then, may I ask you why cocaine and heroin should be legalized?

bloodling

I also do think that if drugs were legalized, there'd be more control. I don't really think that usage would increase substantially (especially with hard drugs), but even if it did, that's not really the issue. I know that it's not as simple as this, but I do believe that people should do what they want as long as they don't negatively affect other people, and with more control and fewer ridiculous consequences, I think it'd be safer.

I hate to say this since there are a few users here who tend to pull this card, but I have to leave for a class in a few minutes, so if I stop posting here, that's why. :)

If we handed these drugs to them, we would be responsible for giving it to them. It's like giving them poison that will kill them and then say "Oh well, he took it, it's his fault".

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="bloodling"]

If we handed these drugs to them, we would be responsible for giving it to them. It's like giving them poison that will kill them and then say "Oh well, he took it, it's his fault".

Legalizing is allowing people to take these things legally.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="bloodling"]

If we handed these drugs to them, we would be responsible for giving it to them. It's like giving them poison that will kill them and then say "Oh well, he took it, it's his fault".

bloodling

Legalizing is allowing people to take these things legally.

Just because it is there doesn't mean that you have to do it, and just because it's illegal now doesn't mean that people don't do it anyway.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

Well then, may I ask you why cocaine and heroin should be legalized?

bloodling

I also do think that if drugs were legalized, there'd be more control. I don't really think that usage would increase substantially (especially with hard drugs), but even if it did, that's not really the issue. I know that it's not as simple as this, but I do believe that people should do what they want as long as they don't negatively affect other people, and with more control and fewer ridiculous consequences, I think it'd be safer.

I hate to say this since there are a few users here who tend to pull this card, but I have to leave for a class in a few minutes, so if I stop posting here, that's why. :)

If we handed these drugs to them, we would be responsible for giving it to them. It's like giving them poison that will kill them and then say "Oh well, he took it, it's his fault".

"Handed these drugs to them"? What? If a person wants to do drugs, then they'll do drugs, and that's their choice only. The person selling or distributing them doesn't bear any responsibility if what they're doing is legal. If the drug user dies or has health complications, that's the fault of the drug user and the drug user only, as they should've known the risks, and they chose to take the drugs. No one's forcing them to. Yes, we would say "oh well, he took it, and it's his fault," because it's true. t3hrubikscube

I'm not saying everything would change drastically if we made it legal, I'm saying why should we legalize extremely dangerous drugs and help whoever is distributing these things? I just don't understand why.

Yes it should be legal in fact with this economy I CANNOT see how they have not legalized it so they can tax it... I mean almost every high school kid has experienced it nowadays which is sad.

It would clear out alot of space in jail to for those stupid "crimes".

If they unbanned beer they can legalize this as its not even close to as bad as that

I'm not saying everything would change drastically if we made it legal, I'm saying why should we legalize extremely dangerous drugs and help whoever is distributing these things? I just don't understand why.

bloodling

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] "Handed these drugs to them"? What? If a person wants to do drugs, then they'll do drugs, and that's their choice only. The person selling or distributing them doesn't bear any responsibility if what they're doing is legal. If the drug user dies or has health complications, that's the fault of the drug user and the drug user only, as they should've known the risks, and they chose to take the drugs. No one's forcing them to. Yes, we would say "oh well, he took it, and it's his fault," because it's true. bloodling

I'm not saying everything would change drastically if we made it legal, I'm saying why should we legalize extremely dangerous drugs and help whoever is distributing these things? I just don't understand why.

so? You're legally allowed to smoke cigarettes as well. I bet you don't.Jandurin

Actually I do smoke cigarettes.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] "Handed these drugs to them"? What? If a person wants to do drugs, then they'll do drugs, and that's their choice only. The person selling or distributing them doesn't bear any responsibility if what they're doing is legal. If the drug user dies or has health complications, that's the fault of the drug user and the drug user only, as they should've known the risks, and they chose to take the drugs. No one's forcing them to. Yes, we would say "oh well, he took it, and it's his fault," because it's true. bloodling

I'm not saying everything would change drastically if we made it legal, I'm saying why should we legalize extremely dangerous drugs and help whoever is distributing these things? I just don't understand why.

[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

I personally don't care if its legalized or not. I'm never gonna use it unless I HAD to for medicinal reasons. Truth of the matter is marijuana can be addicting just like anything else. And just like anything else, too much is not good for you. Chemically its not addicting, but behaviorally it can be depending on the person using it.

Jandurin

Yes it can be addictive, I had a friend who smoked it for 5 years and last time I talked to him like 4 months ago, he's still doing it. I see pot as anything else people can get addicted to. Some people drink too much water, some people play too much WoW, etc. All of which are based on a persons behavior. Its not pansy talk as you put it. It can be a real problem for some people. Just because its not affecting you, doesn't mean its not affecting others. Everyone is different.

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] she never said she was giving drugs to anyone? she even said she did not encourage it?t3hrubikscube

Legalizing is allowing people to take these things legally.

Just because it is there doesn't mean that you have to do it, and just because it's illegal now doesn't mean that people don't do it anyway.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]so? You're legally allowed to smoke cigarettes as well. I bet you don't.bloodling

Actually I do smoke cigarettes.

I've already explained my beliefs to you in previous posts... I don't see why I have to retype them if you didn't take the time to read them.t3hrubikscube

OK your point is the government would get more money. That's the only advantage.

Here are the disadvantages: pretty much everyone interested would try hard drugs because it would be so easy to get. Hard drugs aren't that easy to find.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

I personally don't care if its legalized or not. I'm never gonna use it unless I HAD to for medicinal reasons. Truth of the matter is marijuana can be addicting just like anything else. And just like anything else, too much is not good for you. Chemically its not addicting, but behaviorally it can be depending on the person using it.

KamuiFei

Yes it can be addictive, I had a friend who smoked it for 5 years and last time I talked to him like 4 months ago, he's still doing it. I see pot as anything else people can get addicted to. Some people drink too much water, some people play too much WoW, etc. All of which are based on a persons behavior. Its not pansy talk as you put it. It can be a real problem for some people. Just because its not affecting you, doesn't mean its not affecting others. Everyone is different.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]so? You're legally allowed to smoke cigarettes as well. I bet you don't.bloodling

Actually I do smoke cigarettes.

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]so? You're legally allowed to smoke cigarettes as well. I bet you don't.testfactor888

Actually I do smoke cigarettes.

I'm not completely against legalization, marijuana isn't that bad, but it is dangerous. If it were to become legal, there would be major repercussions. Would that be worth it? Maybe.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] I've already explained my beliefs to you in previous posts... I don't see why I have to retype them if you didn't take the time to read them.bloodling

OK your point is the government would get more money. That's the only advantage.

Here are the disadvantages: pretty much everyone interested would try hard drugs because it would be so easy to get. Hard drugs aren't that easy to find.

Some people drink too much water

KamuiFei

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="bloodling"]

Actually I do smoke cigarettes.

bloodling

I'm not completely against legalization, marijuana isn't that bad, but it is dangerous. If it were to become legal, there would be major repercussions. Would that be worth it? Maybe.

They are actually really easy to find. I am not saying that to be a jerk but they don't take that much effort to find just gotta make a few friends and likely one of them will know a way to get it. testfactor888

Clearly not where I live.

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="testfactor888"] So you are apparently for keeping tobacco legal which has caused way more deaths than Marijuana ever has. Yet also are against Marijuana. I just don't get it at all honestly. I smoke cigs as well though so this is not an anti-tobacco post :) *takes hit off cigtestfactor888

I'm not completely against legalization, marijuana isn't that bad, but it is dangerous. If it were to become legal, there would be major repercussions. Would that be worth it? Maybe.

Do you remember the thread "if marijuana was legalized, would you smoke it?"

[QUOTE="testfactor888"]

They are actually really easy to find. I am not saying that to be a jerk but they don't take that much effort to find just gotta make a few friends and likely one of them will know a way to get it. bloodling

Clearly not where I live.

I don't care what they do with it - as long as they don't raise my taxes to create government run detox programs to get strung-out unemployed peopleoff of it.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] I've already explained my beliefs to you in previous posts... I don't see why I have to retype them if you didn't take the time to read them.bloodling

OK your point is the government would get more money. That's the only advantage.

Here are the disadvantages: pretty much everyone interested would try hard drugs because it would be so easy to get. Hard drugs aren't that easy to find.

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="bloodling"]

I'm not completely against legalization, marijuana isn't that bad, but it is dangerous. If it were to become legal, there would be major repercussions. Would that be worth it? Maybe.

bloodling

Do you remember the thread "if marijuana was legalized, would you smoke it?"

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] I've already explained my beliefs to you in previous posts... I don't see why I have to retype them if you didn't take the time to read them.bloodling

OK your point is the government would get more money. That's the only advantage.

Here are the disadvantages: pretty much everyone interested would try hard drugs because it would be so easy to get. Hard drugs aren't that easy to find.

I made more points, but okay. Drugs are a lot easier to get than you'd think, apparently, and if drug usage increases significantly, I don't see why it matters. People are free to do what they want.t3hrubikscube

Yes, but that doesn't mean we have to hand them harmful stuff on a silver platter.

And I disagree with your second sentence.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] I made more points, but okay. Drugs are a lot easier to get than you'd think, apparently, and if drug usage increases significantly, I don't see why it matters. People are free to do what they want.bloodling

Yes, but that doesn't mean we have to hand them harmful stuff on a silver platter.

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="testfactor888"] The major repercussions would not be known till after it was legalized, if there are any at all. Anything now would be speculation on our partstestfactor888

Do you remember the thread "if marijuana was legalized, would you smoke it?"

Both positive and negative. As I said, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, for marijuana that is.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] I made more points, but okay. Drugs are a lot easier to get than you'd think, apparently, and if drug usage increases significantly, I don't see why it matters. People are free to do what they want.bloodling

Yes, but that doesn't mean we have to hand them harmful stuff on a silver platter.

[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] it's not addictive. behaviorally? that's pansy talk. WAH I CAN'T STOP PLAYING WOW WAH poppycocktestfactor888

Yes it can be addictive, I had a friend who smoked it for 5 years and last time I talked to him like 4 months ago, he's still doing it. I see pot as anything else people can get addicted to. Some people drink too much water, some people play too much WoW, etc. All of which are based on a persons behavior. Its not pansy talk as you put it. It can be a real problem for some people. Just because its not affecting you, doesn't mean its not affecting others. Everyone is different.

He tried quitting several times, he just couldn't give it up. Thats why I believe pot can be addictive depending on the person using it, just like anything else. I have no problem with it being legalized, but people that never did it should be warned with possible behavior changes. Again I have nothing against it being legalized, in fact I think it would be financially viable for the states to legalize it, but just because something is legal to use, doesn't mean everyone should use it (much like cigs or alcohol ironically).

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"] I made more points, but okay. Drugs are a lot easier to get than you'd think, apparently, and if drug usage increases significantly, I don't see why it matters. People are free to do what they want.t3hrubikscube

Yes, but that doesn't mean we have to hand them harmful stuff on a silver platter.

Well, I don't think I'm crazy... These things are illegal in almost every country in the world for a reason...

Yes, alcohol and cigarettes are handed to us, if we want to buy those things obviously.