How come female same sex couples are more socially accepted than male?

I just realized that when I watch Lesbian pr0nz... I am by definition watching gay pr0nz.

I am ok with this.

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I just dislike gays who go out of their way to be as feminine as possible... And are very loud about it...

I don't even understand why gay men try to sound like that... Wouldn't immasculating yourself and talking like a 13 year old girl add to the argument that men SHOULD be with women and vice versa since you are making yourself more woman-like to be with men?

In that same respect though... I saw two guys walking down a corridor the other day holding hands speaking in perfectly normal tones of voice... I didn't even give it a second though after rounding the corner...

You know what I just realized? Where did "flaming homosexual" come from? Probably from Christian fundamentalism and the whole "gays will burn in hell" ideal they perpetrate. Lord, I'm never using "flaming" again to describe a homosexual male. >_>

Unless of course gay men aren't offended by it.

foxhound_fox

More than likely a shorthand version of "flamboyant." Taking that word and keeping it around or under two syllabels without causing confusion and i think "flamer" would seem convenient.

I just realized that when I watch Lesbian pr0nz... I am by definition watching gay pr0nz.

I am ok with this.

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I just dislike gays who go out of their way to be as feminine as possible... And are very loud about it...

I don't even understand why gay men try to sound like that... Wouldn't immasculating yourself and talking like a 13 year old girl add to the argument that men SHOULD be with women and vice versa since you are making yourself more woman-like to be with men?

In that same respect though... I saw two guys walking down a corridor the other day holding hands speaking in perfectly normal tones of voice... I didn't even give it a second though after rounding the corner...

Buttons1990

Many straight men are feminine as well, not just gay men. I think your stereotyping gay people due to your own insecurities. You must understand that this stereotyping you are doing is wrong and against gay people .

I think your stereotyping gay people due to your own insecurities.

caribo2222

Why must someone's stereotyping be due to insecurities, as opposed to anything else?

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

I just realized that when I watch Lesbian pr0nz... I am by definition watching gay pr0nz.

I am ok with this.

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I just dislike gays who go out of their way to be as feminine as possible... And are very loud about it...

I don't even understand why gay men try to sound like that... Wouldn't immasculating yourself and talking like a 13 year old girl add to the argument that men SHOULD be with women and vice versa since you are making yourself more woman-like to be with men?

In that same respect though... I saw two guys walking down a corridor the other day holding hands speaking in perfectly normal tones of voice... I didn't even give it a second though after rounding the corner...

Many straight men are feminine as well, not just gay men. I think your stereotyping gay people due to your own insecurities. You must understand that this stereotyping you are doing is wrong and against gay people .

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Because lesbians are hot.

(Ballin'-ass lesbian pic)

Palantas

God, I don't think I'm hardcore enough to smoke a cigar while riding a motorcycle. I can do one or the other, just not both at the same time.

A female doesn't necessarily lose her femininity if she's a lesbian. However, the same can't be said regarding a male and his masculinity.

BluRayHiDef

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

I just realized that when I watch Lesbian pr0nz... I am by definition watching gay pr0nz.

I am ok with this.

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I just dislike gays who go out of their way to be as feminine as possible... And are very loud about it...

I don't even understand why gay men try to sound like that... Wouldn't immasculating yourself and talking like a 13 year old girl add to the argument that men SHOULD be with women and vice versa since you are making yourself more woman-like to be with men?

In that same respect though... I saw two guys walking down a corridor the other day holding hands speaking in perfectly normal tones of voice... I didn't even give it a second though after rounding the corner...

caribo2222

Many straight men are feminine as well, not just gay men. I think your stereotyping gay people due to your own insecurities. You must understand that this stereotyping you are doing is wrong and against gay people .

How is that stereotyping at all? I am literally complaining about one specific group of people and they way they act...? LITERALLY speaking only about those people in particular...

Stereotyping would be me saying "ohhhh I hate ALL the gays because ALL gays are flamboyant girly men!" - That is stereotyping...

Saying I hate overtly feminine gay men because they are overtly feminine is not sterotyping. That is just intollerance sir... GET YOUR INSULTS STRAIGHT!

[QUOTE="caribo2222"]

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

I just realized that when I watch Lesbian pr0nz... I am by definition watching gay pr0nz.

I am ok with this.

----

I just dislike gays who go out of their way to be as feminine as possible... And are very loud about it...

I don't even understand why gay men try to sound like that... Wouldn't immasculating yourself and talking like a 13 year old girl add to the argument that men SHOULD be with women and vice versa since you are making yourself more woman-like to be with men?

In that same respect though... I saw two guys walking down a corridor the other day holding hands speaking in perfectly normal tones of voice... I didn't even give it a second though after rounding the corner...

YellowOneKinobi

Many straight men are feminine as well, not just gay men. I think your stereotyping gay people due to your own insecurities. You must understand that this stereotyping you are doing is wrong and against gay people .

Most men in general seem to be obsessed with sex.

From my experience when ever people think of homosexuality they think of sex not relationships, and most straight people think that sex involving women is hot

From my experience when ever people think of homosexuality they think of sex not relationships, and most straight people think that sex involving women is hot

toast_burner

Especially when there is more than one woman... And tanning oil.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

A female doesn't necessarily lose her femininity if she's a lesbian. However, the same can't be said regarding a male and his masculinity.

xaos

[QUOTE="caribo2222"]

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

I just realized that when I watch Lesbian pr0nz... I am by definition watching gay pr0nz.

I am ok with this.

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I just dislike gays who go out of their way to be as feminine as possible... And are very loud about it...

I don't even understand why gay men try to sound like that... Wouldn't immasculating yourself and talking like a 13 year old girl add to the argument that men SHOULD be with women and vice versa since you are making yourself more woman-like to be with men?

In that same respect though... I saw two guys walking down a corridor the other day holding hands speaking in perfectly normal tones of voice... I didn't even give it a second though after rounding the corner...

Buttons1990

Many straight men are feminine as well, not just gay men. I think your stereotyping gay people due to your own insecurities. You must understand that this stereotyping you are doing is wrong and against gay people .

How is that stereotyping at all? I am literally complaining about one specific group of people and they way they act...? LITERALLY speaking only about those people in particular...

Stereotyping would be me saying "ohhhh I hate ALL the gays because ALL gays are flamboyant girly men!" - That is stereotyping...

Saying I hate overtly feminine gay men because they are overtly feminine is not sterotyping. That is just intollerance sir... GET YOUR INSULTS STRAIGHT!

You are saying that Gay men are in fact feminine, well some. You are putting the impression that some Gay men act like flamers, which is true, but i put the argument that some straight men act like flamers. You must understand that to like men is a natural part of your experience. Do you follow this, or must i explain a little deeper?.

Only a man can understand a man, you should understand that you are being a little bit harsh when you link homosexuals with being feminine.

[QUOTE="I"]

God, I don't think I'm hardcore enough to smoke a cigar while riding a motorcycle. I can do one or the other, just not both at the same time.

Allicrombie

Sorry. :( At least since DADT has been repealed, US special operations can get lesbians who can smoke cigars and ride Harleys at the same time.

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

[QUOTE="caribo2222"]

Many straight men are feminine as well, not just gay men. I think your stereotyping gay people due to your own insecurities. You must understand that this stereotyping you are doing is wrong and against gay people .

caribo2222

How is that stereotyping at all? I am literally complaining about one specific group of people and they way they act...? LITERALLY speaking only about those people in particular...

Stereotyping would be me saying "ohhhh I hate ALL the gays because ALL gays are flamboyant girly men!" - That is stereotyping...

Saying I hate overtly feminine gay men because they are overtly feminine is not sterotyping. That is just intollerance sir... GET YOUR INSULTS STRAIGHT!

You are saying that Gay men are in fact feminine, well some. You are putting the impression that some Gay men act like flamers, which is true, but i put the argument that some straight men act like flamers. You must understand that to like men is a natural part of your experience. Do you follow this, or must i explain a little deeper?.

Only a man can understand a man, you should understand that you are being a little bit harsh when you link homosexuals with being feminine.

And once again I ask? How am I being stereotypical?

I am not linking homosexuals with being feminine... I am stating MY OWN OPINION of gays WHO ACTUALLY ACT THAT WAY and questioning WHY THEY ACT THAT WAY...? I didn't once say that all gays are feminine... I didn't once say that some gays are feminine... I didn't point out any number of gays that are feminine... I said (summary) "gays that are feminine" as in pertaining only to those people who are actually that way...

What is it about my words that you are having trouble understanding? Why you are even mentioning straight men who act like 14 year old girls is beyond me as they have nothing to do at all with what I said, nor have I personally ever been in the pressence of such a person... But rest assured that if there was a straight man acting that way in front of me, I would dislike him just as much as the gay guy...

What you are saying is complete nonsense... You are complaining about me saying things I never said... And accusing me of stereotyping people when I am not stereotyping anyone...? It is like you are reading my words and completely ignoring what they say, creating your own personal commentary as you read and then complaining about your commentary like it is my words?

[QUOTE="caribo2222"]

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

How is that stereotyping at all? I am literally complaining about one specific group of people and they way they act...? LITERALLY speaking only about those people in particular...

Stereotyping would be me saying "ohhhh I hate ALL the gays because ALL gays are flamboyant girly men!" - That is stereotyping...

Saying I hate overtly feminine gay men because they are overtly feminine is not sterotyping. That is just intollerance sir... GET YOUR INSULTS STRAIGHT!

Buttons1990

You are saying that Gay men are in fact feminine, well some. You are putting the impression that some Gay men act like flamers, which is true, but i put the argument that some straight men act like flamers. You must understand that to like men is a natural part of your experience. Do you follow this, or must i explain a little deeper?.

Only a man can understand a man, you should understand that you are being a little bit harsh when you link homosexuals with being feminine.

And once again I ask? How am I being stereotypical?

I am not linking homosexuals with being feminine... I am stating MY OWN OPINION of gays WHO ACTUALLY ACT THAT WAY and questioning WHY THEY ACT THAT WAY...? I didn't once say that all gays are feminine... I didn't once say that some gays are feminine... I didn't point out any number of gays that are feminine... I said (summary) "gays that are feminine" as in pertaining only to those people who are actually that way...

What is it about my words that you are having trouble understanding? Why you are even mentioning straight men who act like 14 year old girls is beyond me as they have nothing to do at all with what I said, nor have I personally ever been in the pressence of such a person... But rest assured that if there was a straight man acting that way in front of me, I would dislike him just as much as the gay guy...

What you are saying is complete nonsense... You are complaining about me saying things I never said... And accusing me of stereotyping people when I am not stereotyping anyone...? It is like you are reading my words and completely ignoring what they say, creating your own personal commentary as you read and then complaining about your commentary like it is my words?

You know ... after all of these threads ...

I've come to the conclusion that caribo ... is not gay :shock:

"I would dislike him just as much as the gay guy...", so you don't like gay people?. That's even worse than sterotyping homophobe.

caribo2222

[QUOTE="Squeets"]

And once again I ask? How am I being stereotypical?

I am not linking homosexuals with being feminine... I am stating MY OWN OPINION of gays WHO ACTUALLY ACT THAT WAY and questioning WHY THEY ACT THAT WAY...? I didn't once say that all gays are feminine... I didn't once say that some gays are feminine... I didn't point out any number of gays that are feminine... I said (summary) "gays that are feminine" as in pertaining only to those people who are actually that way...

What is it about my words that you are having trouble understanding? Why you are even mentioning straight men who act like 14 year old girls is beyond me as they have nothing to do at all with what I said, nor have I personally ever been in the pressence of such a person... But rest assured that if there was a straight man acting that way in front of me, I would dislike him just as much as the gay guy...

What you are saying is complete nonsense... You are complaining about me saying things I never said... And accusing me of stereotyping people when I am not stereotyping anyone...? It is like you are reading my words and completely ignoring what they say, creating your own personal commentary as you read and then complaining about your commentary like it is my words?

caribo2222

"I would dislike him just as much as the gay guy...", so you don't like gay people?. That's even worse than sterotyping homophobe.

/facepalm

I am just going to walk away now as arguing with you is pointless.

[QUOTE="caribo2222"]

[QUOTE="Squeets"]

And once again I ask? How am I being stereotypical?

I am not linking homosexuals with being feminine... I am stating MY OWN OPINION of gays WHO ACTUALLY ACT THAT WAY and questioning WHY THEY ACT THAT WAY...? I didn't once say that all gays are feminine... I didn't once say that some gays are feminine... I didn't point out any number of gays that are feminine... I said (summary) "gays that are feminine" as in pertaining only to those people who are actually that way...

What is it about my words that you are having trouble understanding? Why you are even mentioning straight men who act like 14 year old girls is beyond me as they have nothing to do at all with what I said, nor have I personally ever been in the pressence of such a person... But rest assured that if there was a straight man acting that way in front of me, I would dislike him just as much as the gay guy...

What you are saying is complete nonsense... You are complaining about me saying things I never said... And accusing me of stereotyping people when I am not stereotyping anyone...? It is like you are reading my words and completely ignoring what they say, creating your own personal commentary as you read and then complaining about your commentary like it is my words?

Buttons1990

"I would dislike him just as much as the gay guy...", so you don't like gay people?. That's even worse than sterotyping homophobe.

/facepalm

I am just going to walk away now as arguing with you is pointless.

"What happens when you think of being gay?"....,how exactly do you feel?..."Don't practice this pattern too much". You must come to accept yourself just the way you are.

so you don't like gay people?. That's even worse than sterotyping homophobe.

caribo2222

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

[QUOTE="caribo2222"]

"I would dislike him just as much as the gay guy...", so you don't like gay people?. That's even worse than sterotyping homophobe.

caribo2222

/facepalm

I am just going to walk away now as arguing with you is pointless.

"What happens when you think of being gay?"....,how exactly do you feel?..."Don't practice this pattern too much". You must come to accept yourself just the way you are.

Dude, seriously.....To say that you're grasping at straws at this point would be putting it kindly.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

A female doesn't necessarily lose her femininity if she's a lesbian. However, the same can't be said regarding a male and his masculinity.

foxhound_fox

Might have started when they used to burn gays, since that's also where f*g came from.

Also, I think that gays are more accepted by females and lesbians are more accepted by males. I have a pair of friends who have multiple gay friends and are all for gay rights, same sex marriage and whatever, but when they see a lesbian they think it's weird and don't really accept it. I've been meaning to ask whether they think gay rights only applies to males.

[QUOTE="caribo2222"]

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

/facepalm

I am just going to walk away now as arguing with you is pointless.

worlock77

"What happens when you think of being gay?"....,how exactly do you feel?..."Don't practice this pattern too much". You must come to accept yourself just the way you are.

Dude, seriously.....To say that you're grasping at straws at this point would be putting it kindly.

Haha it's all in good humour, "Don't take my words seriously". "Don't accept my post","Don't like me" . Just enjoy it;)

Here is an answer that I got in a religion study class last semester:

"The reason woman on woman is acceptable while man on man is not is because the bible says nothing about gay in general. It just forbids man on man so woman on woman is alright in God's eyes."

I don't care for religion but my professor said this so I call this the most likely reason.

Because in the straight man's mind, lesbians aren't actual lesbians. They're all bisexuals just itching to get a threeway going.

Oleg_Huzwog

I would assume that lesbians are more socially accepted than males because most heterosexual men would rather imagine two women naked than two men, at least that's how it is with me and my friends.

Sorry to be that intollerant looking guy..But I'm only tolerant of non butch lesbians 0.0

kevin11896

That's not true. A lot of men like lesbian porn, but not the actual lesbians themselves. Once they find out that can't have you, or be in the middle of your relationship, they become less "tolerant".

I've also met many straight women who were even scared to talk to me because they thought I might hit on them.

I would say we have it equal.

because males are ugly and women are hot.

2 males doing it = twice as ugly

2 girls doing it = twice as hot.

math.

I don't think they are. I think when males hear lesbians, they think pornstar style girls, which gets them going. metallica_fan42

[QUOTE="metallica_fan42"]I don't think they are. I think when males hear lesbians, they think pornstar style girls, which gets them going. Bloodseeker23

Don think you are really gay Caribo. I believe you just think you are gay somehow