Five year old girl may face murder charges for drowning toddler

Get the exorcist in there right now.

I don't really think you're omnipotent enough to know what went through her mind.... In fact she probably didn't think it could kill him, because it usually wouldn't unless you literally inhale the water. Saturos3091

Howcome you get to be omnipotent, but i dont?

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Because people say things at times that they might not mean? People say things in the heat of the moment, it's killing someone in the heat of the moment that isn't allowed :|

Nibroc420

So, it's ok for a 5 year old to not understand a word, but she has to understand the term or consequences of deprivation of life?

And it would be the same case, she don't understand the consequences of deprivation of life, therefore she cannot be accused for murder.

A spoiled brat? Probably. But jail? Jeezus...

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

So, it's ok for a 5 year old to not understand a word, but she has to understand the term or consequences of deprivation of life?

madsnakehhh

And it would be the same case, she don't understand the consequences of deprivation of life, therefore she cannot be accused for murder.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Not understand a word? wow. When 2 people are mad at each other (for whatever reason) they may say things they do not mean. However, it is when one of these persons attacks/murders another, that they have taken it too far. If your 5 year old niece got mad at her mom and killed her so she would "never see her anymore" she should be convicted of murder. If the 5 year old in this news article told her bro/sis that she "never wanted to see him anymore" nothing would have gone wrong.Nibroc420

And it would be the same case, she don't understand the consequences of deprivation of life, therefore she cannot be accused for murder.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

And it would be the same case, she don't understand the consequences of deprivation of life, therefore she cannot be accused for murder.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Not understand a word? wow. When 2 people are mad at each other (for whatever reason) they may say things they do not mean. However, it is when one of these persons attacks/murders another, that they have taken it too far. If your 5 year old niece got mad at her mom and killed her so she would "never see her anymore" she should be convicted of murder. If the 5 year old in this news article told her bro/sis that she "never wanted to see him anymore" nothing would have gone wrong.Nibroc420

And it would be the same case, she don't understand the consequences of deprivation of life, therefore she cannot be accused for murder.

I never mentioned the afterlife, i said she don't understand the concept of "take away someones life" due to her age, how can you say she tried to stop the crying via death, instead of, she tried to stop the crying via "i bet if he is underwater i won't hear it anymore"

Anyway, what do you think it should be done in this case?

Anyway, what do you think it should be done in this case?

madsnakehhh

He deserves to be put in jail. If he's already murdering people at that age, imagine what monstrous actions he would do when he's older.Mr_Cumberdale

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] the intent was to stop the toddler from crying, via death. I dont know where people go after they die, i thought death would mean your soul would go to a field of flowers and eternal sunshine, where all your dreams would come true. Clearly i can kill someone because i too do not understand death.(PS. You dont fully understand death either)Nibroc420

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Ah now that would be your assumption that the 5 year old knew it would be a death....any evidence to support your theory that she understood that?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Realization that some children are born evil! Children of the Corn in the 80's tried to warn us but we just did not listen. In all seriousness, I read on some of the comments that the 16 year old baby sitter, left by the parents, had developmental disabilities? Well isn't this a funky situation. Do you charge the 5 year old demon girl, the 16 year old with developmental disabilities, or the parents who put the latter there? I say all of them but I lean towards both the parents and to a lesser degree the 16 year old.JediXMan7

In order of blame:

Parents > Babysitter > 5 year old.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Ignorance on the part of the 5 year old, doesn't remove from the fact that she did what she did, on purpose. And what she did ended the life of another. That is murder, she should be convicted.

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So you have no evidence to prove that said 5 year old did, in fact, intend death. Okay then. Guess that means you shouldn't be convicting her.;)LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]Anyway, what do you think it should be done in this case?

Nibroc420

A murder? yeah now, that's it...

This is pointless and kind of insulting.

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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]Anyway, what do you think it should be done in this case?

madsnakehhh

A murder? yeah now, that's it...

This is pointless and kind of insulting.

OK really, something is not right about putting a 5 year old in prison for life.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] So manslaughter then?Nibroc420

OK really, something is not right about putting a 5 year old in prison for life.

J-man45

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If you can prove she knew the consequences of her actions....

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] :| You dont need to know the consequences of your actions to be held accountable for them.Nibroc420

You can't claim ignorance if you are past the "age of accountability."

When she took a life she gave away hers. End her NOW

Maybe I watch too much TV. But I think that children that perform actions like this are evil to the core. I'm not saying its a no hope case. But I think that someones personality in later life is highly similar to that when they are defined in law to not be responsible for their own actions.Overlord93

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] So you're saying this girl drowned a toddler, and felt nothing? And that makes her exempt from the law? :| So.. Killers who feel nothing, should pay no price?Nibroc420

this is manslaughter, not murder.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] It shouldn't. She commited a crime, she murdered someone. Doing nothing would only teach her that she's not responsible for her actions.

Nibroc420

Alright, let's say that technically, it is murder. You really think a 5 year old girl should recieve charges as if she's an adult?....:|

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And losing a sibling is not a consequence? She has to live with that every day for the rest of her life.tocool340

Alright, let's say that technically, it is murder. You really think a 5 year old girl should recieve charges as if she's an adult?....:|

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Clearly she didn't care about that when she dragged her sibling to the bathtub and held him/her underwater.Nibroc420

Alright, let's say that technically, it is murder. You really think a 5 year old girl should recieve charges as if she's an adult?....:|

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="tocool340"] Yeah, a 5 YEAR OLD TODDLER who probably still in PRESCHOOL has clearly been given the lecture about life and death and has thoroughly been taught about the consequences of killing someone....:roll:

Alright, let's say that technically, it is murder. You really think a 5 year old girl should recieve charges as if she's an adult?....:|

tocool340

[QUOTE="tocool340"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Murderers kill people. Do you want a murderer walking around the streets, knowing she wont be convicted due to her age? I dont.Nibroc420

To the gallows!

Story.

According to the story, the girl was irritated when the toddler wouldn't stop crying, so she held him under water until he stopped.

Wonder what the final outcome of this will be.

ad1x2

Even at five, you haveto be a sick **** to do that.

The pure idiocy of some people on OT never fails to amaze me no matter how familiar I become with the site.

Yup that's how it starts. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't the last time we hear of her killing someone in the future. Evil people do exist whether they're kids or adults. Rockman999

OK really, something is not right about putting a 5 year old in prison for life.

J-man45

Manslaughter, not murder.

The kid has gotta have a few screws loose to drop a baby in a bath though; that or be incredibly thick.

It is murder, but honestly, I have no idea where I stand. It's a 5 year old kid which makes it tough. The only blame that's on the parents is leaving them with a mentally handicapped person. A 5 year old should know that people can't breathe under water and therefore that you shouldn't hold somebody under water, if they do convict her, I feel sorry for the people on the jury because that would be extremely tough.