Finland - Scandinavian, Slavic or just a diferent altogether?

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#1 FirstDiscovery
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Its a question thats always bugged me, i mean its easy to tell them apart looks wise, but due to their geography, mentality and culture, they can be said to be both

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#2 Baranga
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Finno-Ugric, like the Hungarians and Estonians.

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Yep. To be Scandinavian you need to be somehow attached to the Scandic mountains, so that means Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. Denmark can be argued to not be a part of the mountains though... any Danes out there care to weigh in on this?
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#4 TheCurlyBlade
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this is correct, the Fins, Hungarians and i think the Turks (oddly) are all part of the same race, these peoples language is also unique.
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#5 escapeoftheape
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im scandinavian (from norway). are you saying that finns look different than us? i had no idea.. well, they are definitely now slavic :S they look different from russian, dont they??
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#6 inoperativeRS
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We usually call ourselves Nordic AFAIK.
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We usually call ourselves Nordic AFAIK.inoperativeRS
AFAIK meaning what?
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Well as somebody say, they are Finno-Ugric, which has made the question EVEN more complicated given that it means they are not Germanic, Slavic or Romantic. Still, in Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Iceland/Greenland people have similar names whereas the Finns are quite different Here is somebody with very Finnish features
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#9 escapeoftheape
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looks like a scandinavian just slightly more alienish, dontcha think?
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[QUOTE="inoperativeRS"]We usually call ourselves Nordic AFAIK.escapeoftheape
AFAIK meaning what?

AFAIK - As Far As I Know. I could always pick out a native Finn in a crowd quite easily, while teling a Norwegian from a Swede or Dane is a lot more difficult. Something about the bone structure...
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[QUOTE="escapeoftheape"][QUOTE="inoperativeRS"]We usually call ourselves Nordic AFAIK.ChiliDragon
AFAIK meaning what?

AFAIK - As Far As I Know. I could always pick out a native Finn in a crowd quite easily, while teling a Norwegian from a Swede or Dane is a lot more difficult. Something about the bone structure...

Yeah the names are also a big give-away
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Finland is not part of scandinavia. As the above poster stated names are a huge giveaway when it comes to telling the difference between danes, swedes and norwegians.
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Well as somebody say, they are Finno-Ugric, which has made the question EVEN more complicated given that it means they are not Germanic, Slavic or Romantic. Still, in Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Iceland/Greenland people have similar names whereas the Finns are quite different Here is somebody with very Finnish features

Max Payne?
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[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Well as somebody say, they are Finno-Ugric, which has made the question EVEN more complicated given that it means they are not Germanic, Slavic or Romantic. Still, in Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Iceland/Greenland people have similar names whereas the Finns are quite different Here is somebody with very Finnish features

Max Payne?

He works for Remedy and yeah they based Max Payne 1's model on his face.
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#16 Bobzfamily
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Aren't Finnish people actually more related to Hungarians than they are to Scandinavians, or even russians?

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They're Scandinavians, but with a completely different "language tree" (their language is related to Hungarian and Estonian). Finland used to be Swedish for a very long time and they're still pretty connected to their Scandinavian neighbors...plus, Swedish is their second official language.
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all white people look the same to me :/ i honestly would not be able to tell the difference between someone who is Finnish & someone who is Irish besides accent/language.......white is white lol

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#19 Bobzfamily
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Same way with non-caucasians to me...Blacks look black, asians look asians. Guess it's just the way humans are designed to recognize specific members of their own people (tribal instinct)
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their language traces back to korean i believe.... or some sort of asian language.
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Yep. To be Scandinavian you need to be somehow attached to the Scandic mountains, so that means Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. Denmark can be argued to not be a part of the mountains though... any Danes out there care to weigh in on this?ChiliDragon
Even if just a bit, the Scandinavian mountains go all the way to northwestern Finland. By that logic Finland is more Scandinavian than Denmark is. It really is more about language and culture than anything else. Finland has a language of their own and a culture heavily influenced by the Russians. But like hungry bunny said, Finland was a part of Sweden for several hundred years and even after nearly hundred years of independence and over hundred years of being a part of Russia, Swedish is still our second official language and as for cultures, Swedes are still the closest to us. You can never hear a Finn calling himself a Scandinavian or Finland a part of Scandinavia. We see ourselves as a part of the Nordic countries. But then again, at least outside the Nordic countries Scandinavia is often used as a synonym for the Nordic countries. And as far as I know, Swedes don't really call themselves Scandinavians either but rather nordbor (northerners). I guess you could also argue that Finns weren't part of the traveling Norsemen, better known as vikings. In the end, there's no clear answer to this question. It's all about how you define the word 'Scandinavian'.
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#23 RK-Mara
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Aren't Finnish people actually more related to Hungarians than they are to Scandinavians, or even russians?

Bobzfamily
That is only as far as the language is concerned. Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian are known as the Finno-Ugric languages.
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#24 RK-Mara
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their language traces back to korean i believe.... or some sort of asian language.Severed_Hand
I only know it traces back to the Ural region of Russia.
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[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]They're Scandinavians, but with a completely different "language tree" (their language is related to Hungarian and Estonian). Finland used to be Swedish for a very long time and they're still pretty connected to their Scandinavian neighbors...plus, Swedish is their second official language.

Uhm Scandinavia is Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Nordic is Finland, Sweden, Norway and Iceland. And I believe the difference is more historical and cultural than anything else.
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#26 carbon_dioxide
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im finish woot :D if u ask me, Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark is Scandinavia. n yea, difference is more historical. we share some same cultures. And how we look like, well, i would same pretty much the same, i cant tell da difference for example between Swedish and Finish :P
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#27 freek666
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I always thought they were Scandinavian, guess not.

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Same way with non-caucasians to me...Blacks look black, asians look asians. Guess it's just the way humans are designed to recognize specific members of their own people (tribal instinct)Bobzfamily
not for me, caucasians dont really have that BIG of a change in feats between each other, sure some may say Italians but they're basicaly mixed, not technicaly all white, unless you want to count arabs as caucasian because then in that respect they dont all look the same lol

Africans, dont look like your typical American Blacks thats for sure, Brazilian blacks look nothing like your typical american blacks, but thats thanks to being mixed with Asian/White/Black combination, i can tell the difference between a Japanese, & a Indonesian, they have totally different features, besides just an eye color (with whites)

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#29 Bourbons3
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Finland is a Nordic country, but not necessarily a Scandinavian one.
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#30 -eddy-
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I'm Finnish. Base everything on what you've seen me do.
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#31 ic4ruz
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I always thought that Iceland was a part of Scandinavia, and that i where an skandinavian. (since im from Iceland)

Fun fact: Icelanders are actually half norwegians and half Irish, its estimated that only 1 of every 5 women in iceland are of norwegians, the other 4 were slaves from Ireland. But all men in Iceland are from Norway, Denmark and Sweden.

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#32 FirstDiscovery
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Thanks for the info guys

I always thought that Iceland was a part of Scandinavia, and that i where an skandinavian. (since im from Iceland)

Fun fact: Icelanders are actually half norwegians and half Irish, its estimated that only 1 of every 5 women in iceland are of norwegians, the other 4 were slaves from Ireland. But all men in Iceland are from Norway, Denmark and Sweden.

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LOLWUT IRISH? Ive always thought most Icelanders were Norwegian, but IRISH?
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#33 escapeoftheape
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finlanders are not scandinavians, like swedes, norwegians and danish people.. their language is WAY different.. they are a apart of the "nordic" countries, though! they also like to go on omegle ALOT.
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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]They're Scandinavians, but with a completely different "language tree" (their language is related to Hungarian and Estonian). Finland used to be Swedish for a very long time and they're still pretty connected to their Scandinavian neighbors...plus, Swedish is their second official language.

Uhm Scandinavia is Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Nordic is Finland, Sweden, Norway and Iceland. And I believe the difference is more historical and cultural than anything else.

I know that's the technical definition... but in reality, the term doesn't feel exclusive to those countries.
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[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"][QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]They're Scandinavians, but with a completely different "language tree" (their language is related to Hungarian and Estonian). Finland used to be Swedish for a very long time and they're still pretty connected to their Scandinavian neighbors...plus, Swedish is their second official language.

Uhm Scandinavia is Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Nordic is Finland, Sweden, Norway and Iceland. And I believe the difference is more historical and cultural than anything else.

I know that's the technical definition... but in reality, the term doesn't feel exclusive to those countries.

The Scandinavian term? Or the nordic term? Don't mix up Northen Europe with the Nordic countries. :P As for Scandinavia. I guess you can say Finland is a part of Scandinavia, same with Iceland.