Favorite Batman Movie From the 90s?

The only correct answer on your poll is Batman Returns. Aside from Mask of the Phantasm, it's the only movie from the 90's that didn't blow a$$.

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That wasn't what I was talking about in regard to Batman's motivations.LJS9502_basic

The Dark KnightlloveLamp

You're the one that assumed because I said the live action movies showed the motivations of Batman I was referring to this background story. I've had to tell you twice now that isn't the case....boring in and of itself. Nonetheless, I was referring to how Batman develops with the other people in the movies. For instance....the Nolan movies....which you dismissed.....the end of TDK we see how Batman has taken on the role of villain because the people of Gotham needed that from him at that time. The entire two movies led up to the point and it shows growth on his part. But hey if you're happy with the Mask of the Phantasm then I can't see that you'd appreciate a movie that has a bit more depth to it.LJS9502_basic

There's really not much depth to any of what you're saying. Most of his "growth" that you're referring to is flawed if we're counting both installments. It works in the context of the ending to The Dark Knight, but that's it. I don't see how that brings greater depth to what Phantasm does.

That 4 people not only like Batman and Robin, but actually thought it was the best, is the most disturbing thing I have seen all week.

I really like Batman & Robin. It was pretty funny and entertaining. TonyDanzaFan

Very refreshing to read this as I remember everywhere else I go people smash this film to pieces -_-

That 4 people not only like Batman and Robin, but actually thought it was the best, is the most disturbing thing I have seen all week.

Qixote

Well...

I like them all, but my favorite would be Batman Returns.

Batman without doubtThe_Last_Ride

[QUOTE="Alex3796"][QUOTE="Sajo7"]Why isn't Mask of the Phantasm on there?Sajo7

Definitely Mask of the Phantasm. I really need to see Sub-Zero through, especially since Mr. Freeze is one of my favorite Batman villains.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="famicommander"] So are you actually going to make an argument or are you just going to continue with vague denials until I get bored and leave? Are you going to elaborate on your criticisms or just trail off into ellipses?famicommander

Damn, LJ, you just got sonned.

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You're the one that assumed because I said the live action movies showed the motivations of Batman I was referring to this background story. I've had to tell you twice now that isn't the case....boring in and of itself. Nonetheless, I was referring to how Batman develops with the other people in the movies. For instance....the Nolan movies....which you dismissed.....the end of TDK we see how Batman has taken on the role of villain because the people of Gotham needed that from him at that time. The entire two movies led up to the point and it shows growth on his part. But hey if you're happy with the Mask of the Phantasm then I can't see that you'd appreciate a movie that has a bit more depth to it.GreySeal9

Damn, LJ, you just got sonned.

PS...you seem to still have problems learning about differing opinions.

Didn't really like any of them.

So the differences in the way Batman reacts to Phantasm as the movie progresses (both in terms of flashbacks and real time) doesn't constitute character growth? Taking revenge for the death of his parents and becoming reclusive due to love scorn doesn't constitute motivation? We see Bruce fighting crime before he takes on the mantle of the Bat, but he fails to make the impact that he desires when doing so. It is only when he lets go of his desires as Bruce Wayne that he is able to succeed as Batman. The character of the Phantasm brings the development of Batman full circle. They share a similar origin, and each encounter with Phantasm throughout Bruce's life helps to shape his worldview. He is at odds between fulfilling his desires to stop crime and his personal happiness. The rise of Batman fills the void left in Bruce's life by the departure of Andrea, and he only comes to terms with it fully when he defeats her AS Batman. And I didn't dismiss the Nolan films. I simply said that I preferred Mask of the Phantasm, largely due to the Nolan films absolutely raping the origin story and crapping all over the comics. That doesn't make them bad movies, but when evaluating anything related to Batman it is certainly important to consider the comics. I also hate Bale's terrible Batman characterization (especially with respect to the voice), but that's a different story. I like both Nolan films on the whole. I love that last line, by the way. Nothing better than implying that the reason I like one film over the other is because I lack the comprehension skills necessary to understand your choice.famicommander

Which I consider a rather foolish thing to say.......but you're entitled to your opinion.

That 4 people not only like Batman and Robin, but actually thought it was the best, is the most disturbing thing I have seen all week.

Qixote

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You're the one that assumed because I said the live action movies showed the motivations of Batman I was referring to this background story. I've had to tell you twice now that isn't the case....boring in and of itself. Nonetheless, I was referring to how Batman develops with the other people in the movies. For instance....the Nolan movies....which you dismissed.....the end of TDK we see how Batman has taken on the role of villain because the people of Gotham needed that from him at that time. The entire two movies led up to the point and it shows growth on his part. But hey if you're happy with the Mask of the Phantasm then I can't see that you'd appreciate a movie that has a bit more depth to it.GreySeal9

Damn, LJ, you just got sonned.

Anyone voting Batman and Robin and Batman Forever has got to be trolling.hiphops_savior

Bat Credit Card > Mask of Phantasm. Kevin Conroy can suck George Clooney's awesome batt*ts

[QUOTE="famicommander"] So the differences in the way Batman reacts to Phantasm as the movie progresses (both in terms of flashbacks and real time) doesn't constitute character growth? Taking revenge for the death of his parents and becoming reclusive due to love scorn doesn't constitute motivation? We see Bruce fighting crime before he takes on the mantle of the Bat, but he fails to make the impact that he desires when doing so. It is only when he lets go of his desires as Bruce Wayne that he is able to succeed as Batman. The character of the Phantasm brings the development of Batman full circle. They share a similar origin, and each encounter with Phantasm throughout Bruce's life helps to shape his worldview. He is at odds between fulfilling his desires to stop crime and his personal happiness. The rise of Batman fills the void left in Bruce's life by the departure of Andrea, and he only comes to terms with it fully when he defeats her AS Batman. And I didn't dismiss the Nolan films. I simply said that I preferred Mask of the Phantasm, largely due to the Nolan films absolutely raping the origin story and crapping all over the comics. That doesn't make them bad movies, but when evaluating anything related to Batman it is certainly important to consider the comics. I also hate Bale's terrible Batman characterization (especially with respect to the voice), but that's a different story. I like both Nolan films on the whole. I love that last line, by the way. Nothing better than implying that the reason I like one film over the other is because I lack the comprehension skills necessary to understand your choice.LJS9502_basic

Which I consider a rather foolish thing to say.......but you're entitled to your opinion.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"] So the differences in the way Batman reacts to Phantasm as the movie progresses (both in terms of flashbacks and real time) doesn't constitute character growth? Taking revenge for the death of his parents and becoming reclusive due to love scorn doesn't constitute motivation? We see Bruce fighting crime before he takes on the mantle of the Bat, but he fails to make the impact that he desires when doing so. It is only when he lets go of his desires as Bruce Wayne that he is able to succeed as Batman. The character of the Phantasm brings the development of Batman full circle. They share a similar origin, and each encounter with Phantasm throughout Bruce's life helps to shape his worldview. He is at odds between fulfilling his desires to stop crime and his personal happiness. The rise of Batman fills the void left in Bruce's life by the departure of Andrea, and he only comes to terms with it fully when he defeats her AS Batman. And I didn't dismiss the Nolan films. I simply said that I preferred Mask of the Phantasm, largely due to the Nolan films absolutely raping the origin story and crapping all over the comics. That doesn't make them bad movies, but when evaluating anything related to Batman it is certainly important to consider the comics. I also hate Bale's terrible Batman characterization (especially with respect to the voice), but that's a different story. I like both Nolan films on the whole. I love that last line, by the way. Nothing better than implying that the reason I like one film over the other is because I lack the comprehension skills necessary to understand your choice.LJS9502_basic

Damn, LJ, you just got sonned.

PS...you seem to still have problems learning about differing opinions.

Interesting. You say that I have problems learning about differing opinions, yet you can't gracefully accept my opinion that you just got sonned.

where's Batman: Mask of the Phantasm?rilpas

no real people or awesome special effects like Batman & Robin

Batman Forever was my favourite movie as a child.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Damn, LJ, you just got sonned.

GreySeal9

PS...you seem to still have problems learning about differing opinions.

Interesting. You say that I have problems learning about differing opinions, yet you can't gracefully accept my opinion that you just got sonned.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"] So the differences in the way Batman reacts to Phantasm as the movie progresses (both in terms of flashbacks and real time) doesn't constitute character growth? Taking revenge for the death of his parents and becoming reclusive due to love scorn doesn't constitute motivation? We see Bruce fighting crime before he takes on the mantle of the Bat, but he fails to make the impact that he desires when doing so. It is only when he lets go of his desires as Bruce Wayne that he is able to succeed as Batman. The character of the Phantasm brings the development of Batman full circle. They share a similar origin, and each encounter with Phantasm throughout Bruce's life helps to shape his worldview. He is at odds between fulfilling his desires to stop crime and his personal happiness. The rise of Batman fills the void left in Bruce's life by the departure of Andrea, and he only comes to terms with it fully when he defeats her AS Batman. And I didn't dismiss the Nolan films. I simply said that I preferred Mask of the Phantasm, largely due to the Nolan films absolutely raping the origin story and crapping all over the comics. That doesn't make them bad movies, but when evaluating anything related to Batman it is certainly important to consider the comics. I also hate Bale's terrible Batman characterization (especially with respect to the voice), but that's a different story. I like both Nolan films on the whole. I love that last line, by the way. Nothing better than implying that the reason I like one film over the other is because I lack the comprehension skills necessary to understand your choice.Nuck81

Which I consider a rather foolish thing to say.......but you're entitled to your opinion.

Mask of the Phantasm But out of the poll, I'm going with Batman Forever, if only for the song that was tied with the film.drinkerofjuice

[QUOTE="Qixote"]

That 4 people not only like Batman and Robin, but actually thought it was the best, is the most disturbing thing I have seen all week.

LightningBS

Well...

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You wish. Stop spending your time looking for my posts......get a different hobby. It's getting ridiculous.

PS...you seem to still have problems learning about differing opinions.

LJS9502_basic

Interesting. You say that I have problems learning about differing opinions, yet you can't gracefully accept my opinion that you just got sonned.

I worry about you? :lol: If that idea comforts you, then I guess you're entitled to it.

I just felt like expressing my opinion that you got sonned (which you did). I don't see why you can't respect that.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Interesting. You say that I have problems learning about differing opinions, yet you can't gracefully accept my opinion that you just got sonned.

GreySeal9

I worry about you? :lol: If that idea comforts you, then I guess you're entitled to it.

I just felt like expressing my opinion that you got sonned (which you did). I don't see why you can't respect that.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I just want to know why you spend the majority of time here worrying about me. It's every thread I see you in.....like I said...get a new hobby son.

LJS9502_basic

I worry about you? :lol: If that idea comforts you, then I guess you're entitled to it.

I just felt like expressing my opinion that you got sonned (which you did). I don't see why you can't respect that.

I didn't say there was any more validity to his opinions, but he sure argued his opinions a heck of alot better, which is why you got sonned. He actually applied some actual analysis of the movie's themes, structure and motivations while you just posted condescending nonsense. I'm sure one could make a strong argument for your side of the argument as well, but you sure didn't bother. So again, you got sonned. Please respect my opinion.

Also, we wouldn't be arguing over this if you simply respected my opinion about you getting sonned.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I worry about you? :lol: If that idea comforts you, then I guess you're entitled to it.

I just felt like expressing my opinion that you got sonned (which you did). I don't see why you can't respect that.

GreySeal9

I didn't say there was any more validity to his opinions, but he sure argued his opinions a heck of alot better, which is why you got sonned. He actually applied some actual analysis of the movie's themes, structure and motivations while you just posted condescending nonsense. I'm sure one could make a strong argument for your side of the argument as well, but you sure didn't bother. So again, you got sonned. Please respect my opinion.

Also, we wouldn't be arguing over this if you simply respected my opinion about you getting sonned.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Sonned doesn't even make sense. Don't know what you're rambling about. We disagree about that movie. Big deal. His opinion is just that and there is no more validity in either of our opinions. My posts are like wet dreams to you aren't they? You get very excited every time you see them. You can't stop yourself from attempting to argue with me over the most mundane and silly things. Seek counseling.

LJS9502_basic

I didn't say there was any more validity to his opinions, but he sure argued his opinions a heck of alot better, which is why you got sonned. He actually applied some actual analysis of the movie's themes, structure and motivations while you just posted condescending nonsense. I'm sure one could make a strong argument for your side of the argument as well, but you sure didn't bother. So again, you got sonned. Please respect my opinion.

Also, we wouldn't be arguing over this if you simply respected my opinion about you getting sonned.

:cry:

I didn't say that you needed to see character growth or depth. I'm just saying that he made a decent argument using literary analysis whereas you failed miserably. Again, that's my opinion, and you wouldn't want to argue opinions, right? ;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I didn't say there was any more validity to his opinions, but he sure argued his opinions a heck of alot better, which is why you got sonned. He actually applied some actual analysis of the movie's themes, structure and motivations while you just posted condescending nonsense. I'm sure one could make a strong argument for your side of the argument as well, but you sure didn't bother. So again, you got sonned. Please respect my opinion.

Also, we wouldn't be arguing over this if you simply respected my opinion about you getting sonned.

GreySeal9

:cry:

I didn't say that you needed to see character growth or depth. I'm just saying that he made a decent argument using literary analysis whereas you failed miserably. Again, that's my opinion, and you wouldn't want to argue opinions, right? ;)

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I respect nothing about you.I told him what I thought of the movie. It's shallow and I don't see the character growth. Period. That is not condescending nonsense but you're a rather condescending tool. Now get a new hobby....

LJS9502_basic

:cry:

I didn't say that you needed to see character growth or depth. I'm just saying that he made a decent argument using literary analysis whereas you failed miserably. Again, that's my opinion, and you wouldn't want to argue opinions, right? ;)

You were indeed arguing against my opinion by saying that you simply disagreed with him, etc. Again, I'm entitled to think you got sonned. No need to be so defensive.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

:cry:

I didn't say that you needed to see character growth or depth. I'm just saying that he made a decent argument using literary analysis whereas you failed miserably. Again, that's my opinion, and you wouldn't want to argue opinions, right? ;)

GreySeal9

You were indeed arguing against my opinion by saying that you simply disagreed with him, etc. Again, I'm entitled to think you got sonned. No need to be so defensive.

That 4 people not only like Batman and Robin, but actually thought it was the best, is the most disturbing thing I have seen all week.

Qixote

I never could bring myself to watch that movie. The idea of Goerge Clooney as Bruce Wayne/Batman rubbed me the wrong way.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not arguing your opinion. I'm telling you that your constant need to confront me is an issue that you need help resolving. LJS9502_basic

You were indeed arguing against my opinion by saying that you simply disagreed with him, etc. Again, I'm entitled to think you got sonned. No need to be so defensive.

There is no need to be upset.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You were indeed arguing against my opinion by saying that you simply disagreed with him, etc. Again, I'm entitled to think you got sonned. No need to be so defensive.

GreySeal9

There is no need to be upset.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That's not arguing against an opinion...it's telling you how idiotic you are. Your keyboards have got to be rather sticky at this time....what with your excitement and all......might want to suggest to your parents that you need some therapy dude.LJS9502_basic

There is no need to be upset.

Replying to posts you haven't read is kind of stupid homie. But I know for a fact that you have been reading my posts because you specifically said "That's not arguing against an opinion". So how would know to reply that way if you haven't been reading my posts? :lol:

Still, I don't know why I can't express the opinion that you got sonned without all this drama.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

There is no need to be upset.

GreySeal9

Replying to posts you haven't read is kind of stupid homie. But I know for a fact that you have been reading my posts because you specifically said "That's not arguing against an opinion". So how would know to reply that way if you haven't been reading my posts? :lol:

Still, I don't know why I can't express the opinion that you got sonned without all this drama.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I haven't been reading your posts....but I do see you can't help yourself. You have to engage me all the time. :lol:LJS9502_basic

Replying to posts you haven't read is kind of stupid homie. But I know for a fact that you have been reading my posts because you specifically said "That's not arguing against an opinion". So how would know to reply that way if you haven't been reading my posts? :lol:

Still, I don't know why I can't express the opinion that you got sonned without all this drama.

Again, if you're not reading my posts, then why are you still replying to me? How can you complain about being followed through the thread while replying to my every post? Nothing about that strikes you as moronic? Also, saying "reading your posts is kind of stupid" pretty much proves that you read my post. Derp.

But anyway, don't worry about me. I still have your lovely Cure signature to remind me of you. ;)

If there's one user that tries to carry on a debate he's so obviously losing, it's LJS.

Example A: This thread.

Batman Forever because Nicole Kidman made me drool in that movie