Ex-LAPD Cop's Alleged Serial Shootings - $1 Million Bounty if Found!

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#852 LJS9502_basic
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Yeah I don't think his choices have been the best he could have made but it's easy to see why some sympathize with him. 

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Because they want to see the city burn? For all his posturing about his manifesto...it amounted to nothing. Had he evidence of corruption it would have been easy to mail it to some news or media site to get attention. All he did was kill random people because he was fired years ago. I'd imagine he had mental issues though.
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#853 Leejjohno
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Lol, the LAPD and SWAT are completetly inept. They have drones, more than 100 men at their disposal but they can't kill one man? I'm glad he survived.

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I suppose one thing to come out of this situation is just how incompetent the cops are.

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[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"]So far he has not been found in the other cabins, now only the search in the one on fire is left. LAST CHANCE for bets people. Dead or Alive? There are no jiggle physics with this one either, this is a serious situation.QuebecNationale

 

I think he's alive. He's an ex LAPD officer so he has the training to know what the LAPD would do in any given situation.

 

If he is dead then R.I.P anti-corruption hero.

R.I.H Cold Blooded killer if he is dead. I hope satan loves his new chew toy.
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#855 Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Yeah I don't think his choices have been the best he could have made but it's easy to see why some sympathize with him. 

LJS9502_basic

Because they want to see the city burn? For all his posturing about his manifesto...it amounted to nothing. Had he evidence of corruption it would have been easy to mail it to some news or media site to get attention. All he did was kill random people because he was fired years ago. I'd imagine he had mental issues though.

Who wouldn't have mental issues after being treated like that?

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#856 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Yeah I don't think his choices have been the best he could have made but it's easy to see why some sympathize with him. 

Leejjohno

Because they want to see the city burn? For all his posturing about his manifesto...it amounted to nothing. Had he evidence of corruption it would have been easy to mail it to some news or media site to get attention. All he did was kill random people because he was fired years ago. I'd imagine he had mental issues though.

Who wouldn't have mental issues after being treated like that?

Being fired for lying?
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#857 StaticOnTV
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Yeah I don't think his choices have been the best he could have made but it's easy to see why some sympathize with him. 

LJS9502_basic
Because they want to see the city burn? For all his posturing about his manifesto...it amounted to nothing. Had he evidence of corruption it would have been easy to mail it to some news or media site to get attention. All he did was kill random people because he was fired years ago. I'd imagine he had mental issues though.

The main issue with failing to prevent these killing from happening is people randomly jumping to Mental Illness and that there was no actual thoughs weighed about why they killed. We do not know if the man was crazy because we do not have even partial solid evidence, but he seemed to have thought about the actions and seemed dedicated unlike most killers, and his intentions were not random. But we do not know of he was crazy or that he is currently crazy, and we DON NOT know he just killed because he got fired. He was fired YEARS ago for god sake.
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#858 Ace6301
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So why was my post deleted? Alright thanks Hallenbeck for responding. https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/301521427260125184 CBS reporting body found in the cabin. John Miller of CBS was the first to claim this. San Diego local news (KUSI) is reporting the body is Dorner.
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]So why was my post deleted? https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/301521427260125184 CBS reporting body found in the cabin. John Miller of CBS was the first to claim this.

more sites are reporting it now
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#860 StaticOnTV
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]So why was my post deleted? https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/301521427260125184 CBS reporting body found in the cabin. John Miller of CBS was the first to claim this. San Diego local news is reporting the body is Dorner.

Because NO OTHER SOURCE including the ones closer to the Scene have not claimed such a thing.
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He'll probably die before trial like Oswald. I would go all out like the north hollywood shoot out if I was in his position. 

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#862 tocool340
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He didn't go out like a b1tch I'll give him that....
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#863 StaticOnTV
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Cnn, Fox, ABC, MSNBC, and a few others are all syaing they are still searching. No bodies.
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Because they want to see the city burn? For all his posturing about his manifesto...it amounted to nothing. Had he evidence of corruption it would have been easy to mail it to some news or media site to get attention. All he did was kill random people because he was fired years ago. I'd imagine he had mental issues though.LJS9502_basic

Who wouldn't have mental issues after being treated like that?

Being fired for lying?

Yes, if he percieved everybody as corrupt and conspiring against him I can imagine that causing considerable distress. 

It doesn't look that way from where I am sitting. The information he posted just seems too consistent for your usual *just looking for an excuse to fight the man and top myself when the cops show up* format. And lets face it... it's not like LAPD has the prettiest track record.

My gut just tells me that there's no smoke without fire and they just happened to screw with the wrong guy this time.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Who wouldn't have mental issues after being treated like that?

Leejjohno

Being fired for lying?

Yes, if he percieved everybody as corrupt and conspiring against him I can imagine that causing considerable distress. 

It doesn't look that way from where I am sitting. The information he posted just seems too consistent for your usual *just looking for an excuse to fight the man and top myself when the cops show up* format. And lets face it... it's not like LAPD has the prettiest track record.

My gut just tells me that there's no smoke without fire and they just happened to screw with the wrong guy this time.

I wouldn't bother arguing with LJ. He thinks the LAPD can do no wrong and that all of Dorner's claims were false. Even if the LAPD shot a civillian in the middle of a street, LJ would probably defend the LAPD since he loves corrupt organisations so much.

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[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]So why was my post deleted? https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/301521427260125184 CBS reporting body found in the cabin. John Miller of CBS was the first to claim this. San Diego local news is reporting the body is Dorner.

Because NO OTHER SOURCE including the ones closer to the Scene have not claimed such a thing.

http://www.latimes.com/
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They found a body blown OUTSIDE of the cabin. They are now arguing if it is Dorner, sources state that the figure might be too thin to be dorner. Since he was a cop, it is required for his fingerprints and DNa to be recorded so this won't take long to find who the body is.
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#868 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Who wouldn't have mental issues after being treated like that?

Leejjohno

Being fired for lying?

Yes, if he percieved everybody as corrupt and conspiring against him I can imagine that causing considerable distress. 

It doesn't look that way from where I am sitting. The information he posted just seems too consistent for your usual *just looking for an excuse to fight the man and top myself when the cops show up* format. And lets face it... it's not like LAPD has the prettiest track record.

My gut just tells me that there's no smoke without fire and they just happened to screw with the wrong guy this time.

Doesn't matter. Whether we perceive we were wrong or were wronged...that is no excuse to go on a murder rampage. And since he had nothing to show to back up his claims....I think they might have only been in his head. Otherwise, he would have released something. But I think some people want to believe he had a noble cause and so they do. Even if the logic of it doesn't show that....
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#869 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Being fired for lying?QuebecNationale

Yes, if he percieved everybody as corrupt and conspiring against him I can imagine that causing considerable distress. 

It doesn't look that way from where I am sitting. The information he posted just seems too consistent for your usual *just looking for an excuse to fight the man and top myself when the cops show up* format. And lets face it... it's not like LAPD has the prettiest track record.

My gut just tells me that there's no smoke without fire and they just happened to screw with the wrong guy this time.

I wouldn't bother arguing with LJ. He thinks the LAPD can do no wrong and that all of Dorner's claims were false. Even if the LAPD shot a civillian in the middle of a street, LJ would probably defend the LAPD since he loves corrupt organisations so much.

I haven't mentioned the LAPD once. You're a damn liar.
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Being fired for lying?QuebecNationale

Yes, if he percieved everybody as corrupt and conspiring against him I can imagine that causing considerable distress. 

It doesn't look that way from where I am sitting. The information he posted just seems too consistent for your usual *just looking for an excuse to fight the man and top myself when the cops show up* format. And lets face it... it's not like LAPD has the prettiest track record.

My gut just tells me that there's no smoke without fire and they just happened to screw with the wrong guy this time.

I wouldn't bother arguing with LJ. He thinks the LAPD can do no wrong and that all of Dorner's claims were false. Even if the LAPD shot a civillian in the middle of a street, LJ would probably defend the LAPD since he loves corrupt organisations so much.

If one wasn't there to assess the scene of a crime, why would anyone assume otherwise?...

I'm talking in general...

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#871 StaticOnTV
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Being fired for lying?LJS9502_basic

Yes, if he percieved everybody as corrupt and conspiring against him I can imagine that causing considerable distress. 

It doesn't look that way from where I am sitting. The information he posted just seems too consistent for your usual *just looking for an excuse to fight the man and top myself when the cops show up* format. And lets face it... it's not like LAPD has the prettiest track record.

My gut just tells me that there's no smoke without fire and they just happened to screw with the wrong guy this time.

Doesn't matter. Whether we perceive we were wrong or were wronged...that is no excuse to go on a murder rampage. And since he had nothing to show to back up his claims....I think they might have only been in his head. Otherwise, he would have released something. But I think some people want to believe he had a noble cause and so they do. Even if the logic of it doesn't show that....

You are assuming logically the LAPD could not have done things to prevent him from having solid proof. It could be possible both ways using actual logic, we still have no idea if he was crazy or not.
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#872 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Yes, if he percieved everybody as corrupt and conspiring against him I can imagine that causing considerable distress. 

It doesn't look that way from where I am sitting. The information he posted just seems too consistent for your usual *just looking for an excuse to fight the man and top myself when the cops show up* format. And lets face it... it's not like LAPD has the prettiest track record.

My gut just tells me that there's no smoke without fire and they just happened to screw with the wrong guy this time.

StaticOnTV
Doesn't matter. Whether we perceive we were wrong or were wronged...that is no excuse to go on a murder rampage. And since he had nothing to show to back up his claims....I think they might have only been in his head. Otherwise, he would have released something. But I think some people want to believe he had a noble cause and so they do. Even if the logic of it doesn't show that....

You are assuming logically the LAPD could not have done things to prevent him from having solid proof. It could be possible both ways using actual logic, we still have no idea if he was crazy or not.

That makes no sense. Do you wear a tin foil hat?
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Also, forensic exam is not underway to determain if this person is Dorner. It is now time for the finale.
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#874 StaticOnTV
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Doesn't matter. Whether we perceive we were wrong or were wronged...that is no excuse to go on a murder rampage. And since he had nothing to show to back up his claims....I think they might have only been in his head. Otherwise, he would have released something. But I think some people want to believe he had a noble cause and so they do. Even if the logic of it doesn't show that....

You are assuming logically the LAPD could not have done things to prevent him from having solid proof. It could be possible both ways using actual logic, we still have no idea if he was crazy or not.

That makes no sense. Do you wear a tin foil hat?

What doesn't make sense? We FACTUALLY do not know if what he is claiming ACTUALLY HAPPENED OR NOT. You are the only one wearing a conspiracy hat jumping to only one conclusion with nothing showing for it.
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#875 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"] You are assuming logically the LAPD could not have done things to prevent him from having solid proof. It could be possible both ways using actual logic, we still have no idea if he was crazy or not.

That makes no sense. Do you wear a tin foil hat?

What doesn't make sense? We FACTUALLY do not know if what he is claiming ACTUALLY HAPPENED OR NOT. You are the only one wearing a conspiracy hat jumping to only one conclusion with nothing showing for it.

That was in regard to your comment. I wasn't discussing what happened or not TBH. It isn't important.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That makes no sense. Do you wear a tin foil hat?

What doesn't make sense? We FACTUALLY do not know if what he is claiming ACTUALLY HAPPENED OR NOT. You are the only one wearing a conspiracy hat jumping to only one conclusion with nothing showing for it.

That was in regard to your comment. I wasn't discussing what happened or not TBH. It isn't important.

You stated logically people who sympathized with him amde no sense or at least implied it. It's because we still don;t know...yet.
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[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"] What doesn't make sense? We FACTUALLY do not know if what he is claiming ACTUALLY HAPPENED OR NOT. You are the only one wearing a conspiracy hat jumping to only one conclusion with nothing showing for it.

That was in regard to your comment. I wasn't discussing what happened or not TBH. It isn't important.

You stated logically people who sympathized with him amde no sense or at least implied it. It's because we still don;t know...yet.

Conspiriacy was in response to your statement that the LAPD stopped the evidence. But if Dorner had seen the corruption occur and kept notes that would have been evidence and which they wouldn't have seen. Also he could have known of corroborating witnesses. When all is said and done...this was over his job and nothing more. If so...he'd have given some details rather than his manifesto only.
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Being fired for lying?QuebecNationale

Yes, if he percieved everybody as corrupt and conspiring against him I can imagine that causing considerable distress. 

It doesn't look that way from where I am sitting. The information he posted just seems too consistent for your usual *just looking for an excuse to fight the man and top myself when the cops show up* format. And lets face it... it's not like LAPD has the prettiest track record.

My gut just tells me that there's no smoke without fire and they just happened to screw with the wrong guy this time.

I wouldn't bother arguing with LJ. He thinks the LAPD can do no wrong and that all of Dorner's claims were false. Even if the LAPD shot a civillian in the middle of a street, LJ would probably defend the LAPD since he loves corrupt organisations so much.

That's a lie, and you have been doing nothing but supporting senseless murder this whole thread.
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#879 StaticOnTV
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That was in regard to your comment. I wasn't discussing what happened or not TBH. It isn't important.

You stated logically people who sympathized with him amde no sense or at least implied it. It's because we still don;t know...yet.

Conspiriacy was in response to your statement that the LAPD stopped the evidence. But if Dorner had seen the corruption occur and kept notes that would have been evidence and which they wouldn't have seen. Also he could have known of corroborating witnesses. When all is said and done...this was over his job and nothing more. If so...he'd have given some details rather than his manifesto only.

Kept notes is almost as valid as his manifesto so wtf are you talking about? There are things done to people all the time witnesses or not in this country that can never be proven unless you take their word. So this is why it's quite clear that we still have nothing to show if he is crazy or not...yet...
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[QUOTE="QuebecNationale"]

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Yes, if he percieved everybody as corrupt and conspiring against him I can imagine that causing considerable distress.

It doesn't look that way from where I am sitting. The information he posted just seems too consistent for your usual *just looking for an excuse to fight the man and top myself when the cops show up* format. And lets face it... it's not like LAPD has the prettiest track record.

My gut just tells me that there's no smoke without fire and they just happened to screw with the wrong guy this time.

TheWalkingGhost

I wouldn't bother arguing with LJ. He thinks the LAPD can do no wrong and that all of Dorner's claims were false. Even if the LAPD shot a civillian in the middle of a street, LJ would probably defend the LAPD since he loves corrupt organisations so much.

That's a lie, and you have been doing nothing but supporting senseless murder this whole thread.



This...damn this quebec guy a f*ckin idiot :lol:

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Well guys, even though they say it will take a day or so to confirm if the body is him, they state that already 35% of the forensic research matches. So it may be him. With that said it's a wrap (possibly) and my reason for being in OT before some random religion thread or some thread about stuff that makes no sense takes its place.
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Whoa. Police officer giving a news conference right now said that no body has been found and that the reports are false.  Too hot to search the cabin.  I would assume a body is there though.  

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i was going through San B County when all this was going down. Needless to say, SWAT teams, unmarked cars and police cars where on parade on the freeway, a site to behold. However, i'm sorry for the loss of anyone affected in this ordeal.
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So why was my post deleted? Alright thanks Hallenbeck for responding. https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/301521427260125184 CBS reporting body found in the cabin. John Miller of CBS was the first to claim this. San Diego local news (KUSI) is reporting the body is Dorner.Ace6301

https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="QuebecNationale"]

I wouldn't bother arguing with LJ. He thinks the LAPD can do no wrong and that all of Dorner's claims were false. Even if the LAPD shot a civillian in the middle of a street, LJ would probably defend the LAPD since he loves corrupt organisations so much.

36Ounces

That's a lie, and you have been doing nothing but supporting senseless murder this whole thread.



This...damn this quebec guy a f*ckin idiot :lol:

kraychik alt perhaps? :O

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]So why was my post deleted? Alright thanks Hallenbeck for responding. https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/301521427260125184 CBS reporting body found in the cabin. John Miller of CBS was the first to claim this. San Diego local news (KUSI) is reporting the body is Dorner.SAGE_OF_FIRE

https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ

I forsee a media sh*t storm over this A police chief Sergio Diaz is where the information came from at a riverside city council meeting. So LAPD hasn't said anything, other police have.
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Wow. So now there wasn't a body found? This whole thing could've been a big diversion so he could sip away in the confusion? Who the hell is this guy, a fat black, Jason Bourne
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[QUOTE="36Ounces"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] That's a lie, and you have been doing nothing but supporting senseless murder this whole thread.wis3boi



This...damn this quebec guy a f*ckin idiot :lol:

kraychik alt perhaps? :O



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Wow. So now there wasn't a body found? This whole thing could've been a big diversion so he could sip away in the confusion? Who the hell is this guy, a fat black, Jason BourneEman5805

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I'm so confused right now. Are they trying to play it safe until they are 100% certain before calling the body found?

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#890 36Ounces
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On the news they're saying the body was found. If true i'm glad, and that POS can burn in hell. There's never an excuse to kill innocent people.

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#891 MrGeezer
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No, Dorner is killing corruption so he's not murdering people. For the sake of argument though, let's say if Dorner did murder people; he's killing corrupt cop's who exploited their community and broke several laws, so I don't see a problem. It's really amusing how much of a hypocrit you are. You support cop's who have a shiny badge killing and shooting civillians, soldiers killing civillians over seas yet when an ex LAPD officer kills corrupt cop's, you persecute him? The ignorance.

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Jesus Christ, you can't be serious. 1) There's no evidence that the cops that he's killed have actually been guilty of corruption. 2) Apparently it's almost certain that at least two of the people he's killed weren't even cops. They just happened to be unlucky enough to know a cop who Dorner hated. 3) The penalty for "corruption" is not death. Any judge who hands out the death penalty for "corruption" is gonna see that sentence quickly removed. So...if it's not okay for our criminal justice system to hand out death as a penalty for corruption, then why is it okay for Dorner to do that? 4) Your whole argument basically boils down to saying that the people who Dorner killed were scumbags, so it's acceptable or even good for him to kill those people. Is that the standard that you want to live by? Because that's the same standard that results in cops abusing their power. By pretty much all accounts, Rodney King actually WAS a scumbag. Does that justify the beating that he got? Would it have justified a cop skipping the beating entirely and blowing king's head off just because he's a piece of $***. Well...you're implicitly condoning those sort of actions from the police by supporting Dorner. Because it all stems from the same thing. Know a few dirty cops, assume that all cops are the same person, and therefore equally dirty, therefore it's okay to kill any cop. That's the EXACT same mentality that results in corruption by the police. Stuff like hassling people for "driving while black", forcing confessions, using excessive force: ALL of that $*** springs from the exact same mentality you're talking about. 5) Your polar thinking is also evident of a small mind. You think that people have to support the cops or Dorner in this situation, which is bull$***, and you're using people's condemnations of Dorner to assume that they must support the cops. WRONG. People can also support both the cops AND Dorner, people can also support NEITHER the cops nor Dorner.
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#892 Masculus
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It would be hilarious (in a morbid way) if the body is not his.

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#893 MrGeezer
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Yeah I don't think his choices have been the best he could have made but it's easy to see why some sympathize with him. 

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It's also easy to see why some people would sympathize with Hitler or Bin Laden. That doesn't make the sympathizers any less pieces of $***.
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#894 MrGeezer
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Even if the LAPD shot a civillian in the middle of a street, LJ would probably defend the LAPD since he loves corrupt organisations so much.QuebecNationale
Sort of like how you're defending Dorner despite him killing two civilians who had nothing to do with the "corruption" that he was allegedly fighting? 1) You have no evidence that LJ would defend such a thing. 2) Even if he did, that still has NOTHING to do with you defending Dorner.
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#895 gago-gago
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Has this live news video where you can hear police or whomever ordering to burn the cabin down with gasoline been posted yet? Sorry if old. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1T6cG7FC71c Edit: nm it has. Now I wonder if it would make a difference if its him or not.
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#896 DaJuicyMan
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It would be hilarious (in a morbid way) if the body is not his.

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lmao imagine it's like a booby trap or something
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#897 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="gago-gago"]Has this live news video where you can hear police or whomever ordering to burn the cabin down with gasoline been posted yet? Sorry if old. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1T6cG7FC71c Edit: nm it has. Now I wonder if it would make a difference if its him or not.

iirc that was from something like 2 hours before the fire started. There was talking of "burners" on the scanner though just prior to the fire. Given that from what we're told a tear gas canister exploding in an ammo dump caused the fire assuming burners could refer to tear gas isn't much of a stretch. Suspicious no doubt but keep in mind this isn't the LAPD on this site.
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#898 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Doesn't matter. Whether we perceive we were wrong or were wronged...that is no excuse to go on a murder rampage.

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. This cannot be stressed enough. This dude may or may not have been wronged. It's possible that his allegations were always bull$*** and that he is just using them as an excuse to stick it to the people who he has a grudge against. But even if his allegations are true, so what? That means he was wrongly fired for doing the right thing. He tried to do the right thing, was wrongly fired and his career and reputation were ruined. SO? So he was wronged. Well, every single goddamn person here should know that EVERYONE is at some point either genuinely wronged, or genuinely believes that he/she was wronged. No one can control that. What we CAN control is how we react to it. Right now, I guarantee that somewhere in the USA there's a person getting fired because he/she is the wrong race, the wrong sex, the wrong sexual preference, the wrong religion, or holds the wrong ideologies. Unfair? Unjust? Maybe. But Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks didn't pick up some guns and go murdering every white person they could find. Your situation doesn't define you, it's your reaction to your situation that defines you. In the face of injustice, what is a person to do? THAT is the measure of a man/woman. And the very sad fact is that the people glorifying and saluting this murderer are saying that his actions are an acceptable course of action when dealing with injustice. And that's bull$***. I'm sure that Osama Bin Laden genuinely believed with every fiber of his being that he and his people were victims of wrongs committed by the USA. In some cases, his complaints may have even had some validity to them. Does that excuse or justify his actions in response to the injustices which he perceived? No. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris probably also genuinely believed that they were wronged, that the people they were fighting against were mechanisms of an evil machine. On some level, I wouldn't be surprised if they WERE treated like $*** because they were different and that actually IS a legitimate complaint. Does that justify what they did about it? No. And that is the thing about this. It's not even the issue whether or not Dorner actually was f****ed over. So what? EVERYONE gets f****ed over at some point, that's life. The people sympathizing with Dorner or suggesting (either intentionally or unintentionally) that getting revenge on people out of hatred is indeed the correct way to handle injustice. And I truly hope they don't really believe that. I truly hope that they're just trolling for arguments sake. Because for THEIR sake, that's a dangerous f***ing mindset to get into. The next time they get wrongfully fired or wrongfully dumped or wrongfully cheated in some way, what the hell are they likely to do if they truly BELIEVE this $*** that they are currently saying. Granted, they probably won't do anything as extreme as what Dorner did, but there's a very real potential of doing some $*** that's gonna f*** themselves over even more and just cause them to experience more hardships. Fighting injustice is good, but there's a STUPID way to go about it. Assuming that Dorner even WAS the victim of injustice, he chose the stupid path. And that's ultimately going to hurt him and his cause more than if he had reacted in a different way.
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[QUOTE="QuebecNationale"]

No, Dorner is killing corruption so he's not murdering people. For the sake of argument though, let's say if Dorner did murder people; he's killing corrupt cop's who exploited their community and broke several laws, so I don't see a problem. It's really amusing how much of a hypocrit you are. You support cop's who have a shiny badge killing and shooting civillians, soldiers killing civillians over seas yet when an ex LAPD officer kills corrupt cop's, you persecute him? The ignorance.

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Jesus Christ, you can't be serious. 1) There's no evidence that the cops that he's killed have actually been guilty of corruption. 2) Apparently it's almost certain that at least two of the people he's killed weren't even cops. They just happened to be unlucky enough to know a cop who Dorner hated. 3) The penalty for "corruption" is not death. Any judge who hands out the death penalty for "corruption" is gonna see that sentence quickly removed. So...if it's not okay for our criminal justice system to hand out death as a penalty for corruption, then why is it okay for Dorner to do that? 4) Your whole argument basically boils down to saying that the people who Dorner killed were scumbags, so it's acceptable or even good for him to kill those people. Is that the standard that you want to live by? Because that's the same standard that results in cops abusing their power. By pretty much all accounts, Rodney King actually WAS a scumbag. Does that justify the beating that he got? Would it have justified a cop skipping the beating entirely and blowing king's head off just because he's a piece of $***. Well...you're implicitly condoning those sort of actions from the police by supporting Dorner. Because it all stems from the same thing. Know a few dirty cops, assume that all cops are the same person, and therefore equally dirty, therefore it's okay to kill any cop. That's the EXACT same mentality that results in corruption by the police. Stuff like hassling people for "driving while black", forcing confessions, using excessive force: ALL of that $*** springs from the exact same mentality you're talking about. 5) Your polar thinking is also evident of a small mind. You think that people have to support the cops or Dorner in this situation, which is bull$***, and you're using people's condemnations of Dorner to assume that they must support the cops. WRONG. People can also support both the cops AND Dorner, people can also support NEITHER the cops nor Dorner.

1) Yes, there is evidence as explained by Dorner. Did you not read his manifesto? He's an ex LAPD officer so he actually knows what he's talking about. He clearly stated the rampant corruption, and you're forgetting that the police officer in Riverside was protecting a corrupt cop, so therefor he supported corruption.

2)Like I said earlier, while civillians caught in the crossfire is unfortunate, they're collateral damage as the military would say. When one fights corruption, the deaths of civillians are inevitable.

3) The penalty for corruption IS death or it should be at least. You're forgetting that these corrupt cop's have nothing but disdain for the world; they don't care about the protect and serve part of policing, but rather the power and authority it brings, which ends up with them breaking the law, killing civillians and getting a slap on thw wrist or a paid vacation.

 

The cop's are against Dorner and thus they're against justice. It's not a hard conept for you to understand. Dorner went through the legal channels AKA the Chief of Police and got fired and outcasted. He had no choice but to do this in order to reveal the corruption in the LAPD. Tell me, do you support the LAPD? Do you support corrupt cop's? It seems like you do. I'm condoning justice, not murder as most of you like to claim, and yes you can choose a clear side in this; either you support the LAPD and the corrupt cop's or you support justice(Dorner). Cop's wouldn't abuse their power if people started questioning their Police department. This thread is evident that people love to blindly worship corrupt cop's and Police agencies.

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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="QuebecNationale"]

No, Dorner is killing corruption so he's not murdering people. For the sake of argument though, let's say if Dorner did murder people; he's killing corrupt cop's who exploited their community and broke several laws, so I don't see a problem. It's really amusing how much of a hypocrit you are. You support cop's who have a shiny badge killing and shooting civillians, soldiers killing civillians over seas yet when an ex LAPD officer kills corrupt cop's, you persecute him? The ignorance.

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Jesus Christ, you can't be serious. 1) There's no evidence that the cops that he's killed have actually been guilty of corruption. 2) Apparently it's almost certain that at least two of the people he's killed weren't even cops. They just happened to be unlucky enough to know a cop who Dorner hated. 3) The penalty for "corruption" is not death. Any judge who hands out the death penalty for "corruption" is gonna see that sentence quickly removed. So...if it's not okay for our criminal justice system to hand out death as a penalty for corruption, then why is it okay for Dorner to do that? 4) Your whole argument basically boils down to saying that the people who Dorner killed were scumbags, so it's acceptable or even good for him to kill those people. Is that the standard that you want to live by? Because that's the same standard that results in cops abusing their power. By pretty much all accounts, Rodney King actually WAS a scumbag. Does that justify the beating that he got? Would it have justified a cop skipping the beating entirely and blowing king's head off just because he's a piece of $***. Well...you're implicitly condoning those sort of actions from the police by supporting Dorner. Because it all stems from the same thing. Know a few dirty cops, assume that all cops are the same person, and therefore equally dirty, therefore it's okay to kill any cop. That's the EXACT same mentality that results in corruption by the police. Stuff like hassling people for "driving while black", forcing confessions, using excessive force: ALL of that $*** springs from the exact same mentality you're talking about. 5) Your polar thinking is also evident of a small mind. You think that people have to support the cops or Dorner in this situation, which is bull$***, and you're using people's condemnations of Dorner to assume that they must support the cops. WRONG. People can also support both the cops AND Dorner, people can also support NEITHER the cops nor Dorner.

1) Yes, there is evidence as explained by Dorner. Did you not read his manifesto? He's an ex LAPD officer so he actually knows what he's talking about. He clearly stated the rampant corruption, and you're forgetting that the police officer in Riverside was protecting a corrupt cop, so therefor he supported corruption.

2)Like I said earlier, while civillians caught in the crossfire is unfortunate, they're collateral damage as the military would say. When one fights corruption, the deaths of civillians are inevitable.

3) The penalty for corruption IS death or it should be at least. You're forgetting that these corrupt cop's have nothing but disdain for the world; they don't care about the protect and serve part of policing, but rather the power and authority it brings, which ends up with them breaking the law, killing civillians and getting a slap on thw wrist or a paid vacation.

 

The cop's are against Dorner and thus they're against justice. It's not a hard conept for you to understand. Dorner went through the legal channels AKA the Chief of Police and got fired and outcasted. He had no choice but to do this in order to reveal the corruption in the LAPD. Tell me, do you support the LAPD? Do you support corrupt cop's? It seems like you do. I'm condoning justice, not murder as most of you like to claim, and yes you can choose a clear side in this; either you support the LAPD and the corrupt cop's or you support justice(Dorner). Cop's wouldn't abuse their power if people started questioning their Police department. This thread is evident that people love to blindly worship corrupt cop's and Police agencies.

Am I getting smarter or is the amount of stupid around here increasing at an impressive rate?