Drug named krokodil that rots flesh surfaces in Arizona.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/26/heroin-krokodil-flesh-rotting-arrives-us-arizona/2879817/

People look at me like I'm crazy when I say heroin should be legal. This is a good example why. It taking heroin bad, yes.. but now there's a bunch of people at risk of taking this crap instead of actual heroin. Same with a ton of other Research Chemicals. We need to start regulating some of this stuff in some fashion.

- What do you guys think of this news?

Drugs will never be legalized in America, not as long as the prison industry has something to say about it.

Your reasoning for heroin to be legal is because someone may take something worse if it's not? Really? If someone chooses to illegally take something worse, that's on them. Not heroin being illegal.

Your reasoning for heroin to be legal is because someone may take something worse if it's not? Really? If someone chooses to illegally take something worse, that's on them. Not heroin being illegal.

Pirate700

Your reasoning for heroin to be legal is because someone may take something worse if it's not? Really? If someone chooses to illegally take something worse, that's on them. Not heroin being illegal.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Your reasoning for heroin to be legal is because someone may take something worse if it's not? Really? If someone chooses to illegally take something worse, that's on them. Not heroin being illegal.

deeliman

[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Your reasoning for heroin to be legal is because someone may take something worse if it's not? Really? If someone chooses to illegally take something worse, that's on them. Not heroin being illegal.

Pirate700

If you guys have strong stomachs and want to see the effects, search it up. Very gruesome stuff, and I've always known this drug existed before its appearance in the United States. In fact, it's also called Desomorphine and has existed in the United States during the 1930s as well as other countries such as Switzerland so it's nothing entirely new.

Why anyone would take this is beyond me and its appearence in Arizona is a major concern.

If you guys have strong stomachs and want to see the effects, search it up. Very gruesome stuff, and I've always known this drug existed before its appearance in the United States. In fact, it's also called Desomorphine and has existed in the United States during the 1930s as well as other countries such as Switzerland so it's nothing entirely new.

Why anyone would take this is beyond me and its appearence in Arizona is a major concern.

leviathan91

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="deeliman"] But adults should also be able to decide whether or not they take drugs, including heroin. There should be regulations for that of course, just like alcohol.The_Lipscomb

Heroin does to much damage to the body to justifiably be legalized hippies.

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]They should be able make their own decisions to a point. Trust me, you don't want heroin addicts freely about nor people freely able to become one. Heroin isn't the same as having a couple beers or some pot. It's serious, life ruining shit.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"] Is heroin any different from oxycotton? I have a sister totally screwed up because of prescription drugs. She was more addicted to oxys and had tried heroin.The_Lipscomb

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"] Is heroin any different from oxycotton? I have a sister totally screwed up because of prescription drugs. She was more addicted to oxys and had tried heroin.The_Lipscomb

Heroin is almost always at the top.

I've heard of this drug before.. Not surprised that it moved to America..

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]It's completely different. There are people that can get addicted to anything, and I'm sorry to hear about your sister, but heroin, crack, etc. are completely different ball games. As long as hard drug addicts are a serious risk to everyone around them, said drugs should and will remain illegal. Your average heroic and coke/crack user is completely different than someone having a couple beers or some pot while vegging out in front of the TV.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"] While I agree with the last half. I just think that's a very weak argument for it being illegal. Not much else to say. I just don't agree with you. I honestly find oxys to be worse than heroin. Can pop them more often, a bit easier to function on.. Can do it more often.. ect. I've done my share of drugs. Not heroin per say, but I really honestly feel we do have many drugs wrong. We need to start researching these drugs more and really giving the cold hard facts.. Not opinions. You know?deeliman

[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Drugs that are almost garaunteed to make the user a hardcore addict and make the user a danger to anyone around them is not a weak argument for it to be illegal...

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="deeliman"] Alcohol can also do those things, should that be illegal too?deeliman

Drugs will never be legalized in America, not as long as the prison industry has something to say about it.

deeliman

[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]No because it's not inherently addicting other than to a miniscule percentage of its users. Drugs like heroin and crack/coke are brutally addicting to most users.

Pirate700

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/26/heroin-krokodil-flesh-rotting-arrives-us-arizona/2879817/

People look at me like I'm crazy when I say heroin should be legal. This is a good example why. It taking heroin bad, yes.. but now there's a bunch of people at risk of taking this crap instead of actual heroin. Same with a ton of other Research Chemicals. We need to start regulating some of this stuff in some fashion.

- What do you guys think of this news?

The_Lipscomb

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/26/heroin-krokodil-flesh-rotting-arrives-us-arizona/2879817/

People look at me like I'm crazy when I say heroin should be legal. This is a good example why. It taking heroin bad, yes.. but now there's a bunch of people at risk of taking this crap instead of actual heroin. Same with a ton of other Research Chemicals. We need to start regulating some of this stuff in some fashion.

- What do you guys think of this news?

Diablo-B

As an interesting side note, krokodil means crocodile in Dutch.

How messed up do you have to be to think that injecting gasoline is a good idea?

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Your reasoning for heroin to be legal is because someone may take something worse if it's not? Really? If someone chooses to illegally take something worse, that's on them. Not heroin being illegal.

deeliman

And if adults decide to take drugs that destroy their bodies, insurance companies and government run healthcare should be able to choose not to cover them.

That sounds fair to me. We can extend that to alcohol and tobaco related stuff too.

[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Your reasoning for heroin to be legal is because someone may take something worse if it's not? Really? If someone chooses to illegally take something worse, that's on them. Not heroin being illegal.

Wasdie

And if adults decide to take drugs that destroy their bodies, insurance companies and government run healthcare should be able to choose not to cover them.

That sounds fair to me. 

Heroin does to much damage to the body to justifiably be legalized hippies.

MakeMeaSammitch

[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Your reasoning for heroin to be legal is because someone may take something worse if it's not? Really? If someone chooses to illegally take something worse, that's on them. Not heroin being illegal.

Wasdie

And if adults decide to take drugs that destroy their bodies, insurance companies and government run healthcare should be able to choose not to cover them.

That sounds fair to me. We can extend that to alcohol and tobaco related stuff too.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="deeliman"] But adults should also be able to decide whether or not they take drugs, including heroin. There should be regulations for that of course, just like alcohol.deeliman

And if adults decide to take drugs that destroy their bodies, insurance companies and government run healthcare should be able to choose not to cover them.

That sounds fair to me. 

That must suck for alcoholics

I'm surprised that it took this long to get media attention here in the U.S. It's been tearing up Russia for some time now.

Now as far as legalizng heroin, you're an idiot. Heroin may not rot your flesh but it still kills the user.

I'm surprised that it took this long to get media attention here in the U.S. It's been tearing up Russia for some time now.

Now as far as legalizng heroin, you're an idiot. Heroin may not rot your flesh but it still kills the user.

lowkey254

I'm surprised that it took this long to get media attention here in the U.S. It's been tearing up Russia for some time now.

Now as far as legalizng heroin, you're an idiot. Heroin may not rot your flesh but it still kills the user.

lowkey254

We had a topic about Krokodil two years ago or something. I remember that abomination is originated in Russia. Its somehow funny how it made its way to the U.S after two years and now we're having a topic about it too. On another note, its really stupid to use krokodil as an argument for legalizing heroin. I understand that some people want weed legalized, I get that. But I'll never get how some want fvcking heroin legalized. Once you go that route there will mostly be no going back. Basically you want the government to legalize the destruction of individuals. Some may resort to the argument that addicts will get their fix one way or another. If not legally then illegally. Well that is true, but it does not mean society should respond to that by facilitating addiction and its associated drugs. Its just morally and ethically repugnant. Its like the same with suicide. Those who want to take their lives will do one way or another, but that sure as hell does not mean we should open suicide clinics. Anyhow, it is yet to be seen whether legalizing dangerous drugs in the heroin tier and easy access to them won't result in a spike or surge in the number of addicts in the few years that will follow the legalization.GazaAli

The government has already legalized the destruction of individuals.

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"][QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/26/heroin-krokodil-flesh-rotting-arrives-us-arizona/2879817/

People look at me like I'm crazy when I say heroin should be legal. This is a good example why. It taking heroin bad, yes.. but now there's a bunch of people at risk of taking this crap instead of actual heroin. Same with a ton of other Research Chemicals. We need to start regulating some of this stuff in some fashion.

- What do you guys think of this news?

deeliman

Going by your logic, why would anybody take heroin of alchohol is legal?

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]We had a topic about Krokodil two years ago or something. I remember that abomination is originated in Russia. Its somehow funny how it made its way to the U.S after two years and now we're having a topic about it too. On another note, its really stupid to use krokodil as an argument for legalizing heroin. I understand that some people want weed legalized, I get that. But I'll never get how some want fvcking heroin legalized. Once you go that route there will mostly be no going back. Basically you want the government to legalize the destruction of individuals. Some may resort to the argument that addicts will get their fix one way or another. If not legally then illegally. Well that is true, but it does not mean society should respond to that by facilitating addiction and its associated drugs. Its just morally and ethically repugnant. Its like the same with suicide. Those who want to take their lives will do one way or another, but that sure as hell does not mean we should open suicide clinics. Anyhow, it is yet to be seen whether legalizing dangerous drugs in the heroin tier and easy access to them won't result in a spike or surge in the number of addicts in the few years that will follow the legalization.lostrib

The government has already legalized the destruction of individuals.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]We had a topic about Krokodil two years ago or something. I remember that abomination is originated in Russia. Its somehow funny how it made its way to the U.S after two years and now we're having a topic about it too. On another note, its really stupid to use krokodil as an argument for legalizing heroin. I understand that some people want weed legalized, I get that. But I'll never get how some want fvcking heroin legalized. Once you go that route there will mostly be no going back. Basically you want the government to legalize the destruction of individuals. Some may resort to the argument that addicts will get their fix one way or another. If not legally then illegally. Well that is true, but it does not mean society should respond to that by facilitating addiction and its associated drugs. Its just morally and ethically repugnant. Its like the same with suicide. Those who want to take their lives will do one way or another, but that sure as hell does not mean we should open suicide clinics. Anyhow, it is yet to be seen whether legalizing dangerous drugs in the heroin tier and easy access to them won't result in a spike or surge in the number of addicts in the few years that will follow the legalization.GazaAli

The government has already legalized the destruction of individuals.

Well people get really upset when you try to take away their alcohol, or their cigarettes.  And banning all those prescribed narcotics that people get addicted to would also cause some problems

[QUOTE="deeliman"]

Drugs will never be legalized in America, not as long as the prison industry has something to say about it.

danjammer69

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

Heroin does to much damage to the body to justifiably be legalized hippies.

chrisrooR

I blame St. Vincent's awesome songJazz_Fan

[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

I'm surprised that it took this long to get media attention here in the U.S. It's been tearing up Russia for some time now.

Now as far as legalizng heroin, you're an idiot. Heroin may not rot your flesh but it still kills the user.

deeliman

"there are a lot of bad things out there, so let's put more bad things out there!"

"That will make the world better....somehow"

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

Heroin does to much damage to the body to justifiably be legalized hippies.

MakeMeaSammitch

so we keep the most harmful one legal

Let em kill themselves if they want to. We have a bad habit of wanting to force people to be part of this homogeneous blob of society. Just let them kill themselves if they want.guynamedbilly

Let em kill themselves if they want to. We have a bad habit of wanting to force people to be part of this homogeneous blob of society. Just let them kill themselves if they want.guynamedbilly