@Aljosa23 said:
@GazaAli said:
@Aljosa23 said:
@GazaAli said:
Comics are garbage whereas manga is at least enjoyable. Furthermore, if you look around well enough its guaranteed that you'll find a manga that will knock you off your feet. Most importantly however, manga tries to be creative and original, it tries to bring something new to the table and it often succeeds whereas western comics have been rehashing the same shit over and over again. I have no idea why people still buy comics.
This is so absurd on so many levels. There are way more Western comics than just superhero shit from DC and Marvel and I guarantee that western comics have way more universal appeal than manga.
also, western comic art is MUCH better. That isn't even up for debate.
Yet we only hear about shit from DC universe and Marvel Heroes. Your statement that western comics have way more universal appeal than manga made me chuckle, not that universal appeal is necessarily a valid criterion to judge the quality of any work anyway. In fact I could argue the complete opposite.
Western comics art is MUCH better? What are you on brother Aljosa? I'd like to see a specimen of that superior art of yours and be my own judge if I'm not asking too much of you.
Just because you only hear about stuff from DC and Marvel doesn't mean others don't exist lol. By that logic the only manga that matters is popular shonen garbage like the crap OP listed. Of course I wouldn't critique something on the basis of universal appeal but even in this thread people are saying manga has stuff that "appeals to everyone", which is silly since to enjoy manga in the first place you need to get past the usual tropes and culture shock of it. Western comics are much more varied since when I say "Western", that is North America and then Europe like Belgium and France. Here are examples of Western comic art:
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Vast majority of manga fans read a variety of works beside the popular shounen crap. In fact I might argue that the popular shounen crap is mainly for teenagers which are only a portion of manga's fan base and is usually just for quick consumption. They'd even invest their time and money in obscure mangakas and their works. I can't say the same about western comics. It wouldn't be truthful to argue against the premise that DC Universe and Marvel Heroes dominate the western comics market and that obscure comics artists are quite marginal with regard to the fan base and the business as a whole. Furthermore, manga constitutes a rich and diverse culture on its own, with innumerable offshoots, franchises, industries, clubs, conventions...etc. I'm not sure if one can say the same about comics. Probably not though.
You seem to be confusing diversity and variety with universal appeal. They're completely different concepts. What I was arguing in favor of manga was the reality that mangakas are willing and often encouraged to explore all possibilities and exert their imagination . I can't say comics artists have the same luxury or willingness for that matter. It can be attributed to cultural differences I guess.
I'v taken a look at all the specimens you provided and none of them did it for me. I just don't find the art style of western comics appealing. It looks bland, dull and unimaginative. It fails to entice in me any reaction or curiosity whatsoever.
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