Dad shoots, kills boy found inside daughter’s bedroom.

This reminded me of the Purge, lol.

There's a stranger in his daughter's room who then attempted to reach for something after being told not to move. Sounds like the dad had every right to shoot him

Excuse me, but that is just insane. So long as the shooter tells everyone he said "Don't move", post-shooting, he is justified? I'm sure glad you're not in a judicial position.

Do you have proof otherwise?

I bet his daughter feels pretty damn stupid right about now. I don't blame the father at all. Sure it sucks that the kid is dead, but I have to blame the daughter here for lying and saying she didn't know the kid. If I was the father and my daughter told me she didn't know him, I would have shot him too if I said don't move and he went to grab at something.

Pussy kills.

Eso es puro loco

I can see how that's logical, but the situation could have still ended up with someone not dying. The dad is still a trigger happy dumbass.

En realidad una tragedia.

I would seriously like to know where some of you learned how to defend yourselves in a life or death situation.

It takes less than one second for a competent person to pull a gun out and fire. When you see somebody reaching for what may or may not be a weapon after you told them not to move how do you know they are not reaching for a gun? The second you waited could be what kills you. This isn't Call of Duty, where you can bring a knife to a gunfight and win.

If anybody deserves the blame it is the daughter. Yes, teenagers have sex, a lot of them lost their virginity before they could legally smoke a cigarette. But instead of owning up to the fact that she had her boyfriend in the room she claims she doesn't know the man. As a father, after hearing she doesn't know him I'm going to assume this guy broke in and is trying to rape my daughter and I will do what is necessary to protect her.

All of you can say otherwise, but when your life, or the life of your child is at risk you will do what is necessary. If the DA decides to press charges the jury will most likely see it the same way and acquit him.

there is a reason why the US has the highest gun related murders in the western world.

you know whats missing from this story?

Was the teen the kid was having sex with Black?

Oh if it was.... this story is gold.

The guy was probably reaching for his pants.

Must be a new form of birth control.

Only if he had shot the daughter.

It's more like his daughter is a dumb shit for not saying she knows the guy

Probably because his son told him there was an intruder on the house, he went to check, he indeed found someone in the house WITH HIS DAUGHTER and the stupid daughter told him she did not know the guy.

Seriously, put yourself in that situation, you walk in your daughter's room at night and you see a guy standing there and the girl says "DAD I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS GUY IS", what the hell would you do?

did you read the part where the girl shouted she had no idea who the guy was?

In other words.."DAD HOME INVADER ON MY ROOM"

And how does the father know it is a life or death situation? He doesn't, he just assumes it is and, surprise surprise, it turns into a life and death situation, at least for the kid. "Those fond of displaying grim fearlessness will inevitably develop an extremely combative mind that disregards other people with contempt."

I can agree with you there 100%.

My first reaction would not be to shoot him. My reaction would be to try to figure out what's going on (and if there's a boy in bed with my daughter my first thought is not that she's in danger). I'm also realizing that it's a tense situation and sticking a gun in his face might not be the most constructive thing ever, and I'm certainly not going to shoot him as soon as he twitches.

As for the girl lying, teens are going to do stupid things. Adults are supposed to act like, well, adults.

You're right. He doesn't know because he can't see what the young man was pulling out.

My advice to you, if you ever find yourself on the business end of a pistol, is to FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. It doesn't matter if you believe the person pointing a gun at you is wrong, you don't want to give them a reason to pull the trigger.

If you are defending your home and you see somebody reaching into their pocket or some other area not visible to you there is no way to verify they aren't pulling out a gun. With that, they can feel threatened and can shoot you.

I know anti-gun logic tells you to wait until you actually see the gun but in the real world that is a gamble that could get you killed if they are armed. Plus, it was late, it may have been dark, and the daughter lied and said he was a stranger. Three reasons I wouldn't want to be that guy unrelated to the actual shooting.

I try to avoid ending up on the business ends of guns by, as a general rule, not hanging out with gun-toting nutjobs that will shoot you the first time you twitch.

There's no way to verify it, but that doesn't mean they should shoot first and ask questions later. The default mindset should not be that everyone in the world is armed, dangerous, and out to hurt me and my family. When you go around with that mindset you wind up in situations exactly like this and end up shooting an innocent kid and ending his life. So yeah, MAYBE that kid could have had a gun and MAYBE the kid was reaching for it when THE DAD came into the room and started yelling and sticking a gun in his face, but simply taking a moment to assess the situation (or holstering the gun for a moment when you realize that finding a boy in your daughter's bed is an emotional situation) can save lives in these situations. Maybe that puts the dad in this situation at a slightly increased risk, but that's on him for dragging a gun into that situation in the first place and making the kid scared and uncomfortable by brandishing it at him.

Anti-gun logic, you are a piece of work. No one here is trying to argue that people can't keep guns for self-defense, no one is trying to conduct a crusade. All we are asking is for gun owners to show some restraint and assess situations fully before they go blowing people away (because **** people's lives, right, they're nowhere near as important as gun owners' need to feel in complete control of each and every situation), and you go straight into your little persecution complex. There's absolutely no give with you people. Gun owners are always right because no matter how emotionally charged the situation, no matter if they create the situation or not by pulling the gun in the first place or taking it upon themselves to be vigilantes, they can always argue after the fact that they thought they saw a weapon or they feared for their life or any other justification they can come up with. Don't possibly ask if there was anything they could have done better because THEY are always the ones at risk, even though when someone actually dies it's invariably someone WITH a gun confronting someone who ends up NOT having a gun. When people look for trouble then they find it, and this man was looking fro trouble.

never happen in middle-east?

Another pisode from The Game of thrones ... lol

@theone86: i am a firm believer in gun safety. However, I am also a firm believer in protecting my family. If I am told an intruder is in my daughter's room I'm going to grab my pistol and come to her aid. If I see a stranger in there and she tells me she doesn't know him the first thing I am going to think is she is about to be raped. From that point on, I will point my weapon at the stranger and order him to get up so I can order him outside and call the police. If I see him reach for something I can't see after I told him not to move I am going to assume the worst (gun) and open fire. There was no malice, it was me protecting my daughter and myself.

It is very likely that is how it went down, which is what the story sounds like in the link. A father was coming to his daugher's rescue and because of her lie he mistook him for a hostile person and shot him. Not all shootings resulting in the accidental death of an innocent person are done by bloodthirsty gun-toting morons but some people who are anti-gun like to paint that picture. And yes, some people here are advocating that the US bans guns.

Wow, the daughter is a bitch. Way to stick up for the guy you were just fucking.

I live in a country where almost nobody has guns, and it's safe to say getting robbed and/or murdered is pretty rare.

And he is a douchebag if he charges with a loaded gun with the safety off into the room because he hears a racket in the middle of the day, it's pretty obvious what the idiots intention was.

You know? lol. So simple...You catch your daughter in bed with a boy around her age...you dont hear her screaming or anything...chances are she was willingly having sex with her. And besides, nowadays girls are having sex at 12 so its not so far fetched that your daughter would sneak a guy into her house. Kids are so dumb now...how about having your lil sex session when your parents ARE NOT HOME?

I thought we're the only people that are constantly accused of "sanctioning" honor killing. Its quite funny that you bring this up since I was meaning to make a special point about it but chose not to. Next time someone starts talking shit about the social norms of the middle east, I'll make sure to remind them of how many people get shot needlessly in the U.S, among whom those that get shot because of infidelity and "protecting" one's daughter honor.

I seriously hope you never have kids.

Come on, does anyone actually believe the dad thought this kid was an intruder? The kid just happened to sneak into a crowded house, jump into bed with a girl his own age and have her not make a sound? Anyone with half a brain could have figured out what was going on. And I'm tired of hearing "oh, he was reaching for something!" as an excuse for murder. Seriously, was he stashing a Glock in his undies while he was porking your daughter?

The daughter was stupid, but teenagers in general are stupid. The dad was a grown man who should have had the brain capacity and judgement to realize what was going on. Also, this isn't an issue of gun control, the dad could have just as easily murdered that kid with a hunting rifle.

I believe what he said was that he "wasn't shocked by anything anymore", not "don't care about anything anymore" assuming we're talking about the same thread =P

You're linking to an interview about a study performed in 1991 and the article to which you've linked contains no information about the study's methodology. Great research there, buddy

This story brings back memories. Glad I'm still alive. I don't know how many times I had to stay under the covers and pretend to be another chick having a sleep over lol. In retrospect I feel sorry for the dads as I don't think many of them were fooled but went along with the lie anyway.

Everyone here should stop thinking that people have this giant number displaying their age right on top of their heads, or that everyone in the same age group will look the same.

When I was in highschool, I had classmates who looked like they were 25 and they were actually 16 years old.

these 2 girls are only 1 year appart in age (17 and 16), yet one of them already looks like a woman in her mid 20s

Stop being so dumb, not everyone looks their age, the father entered the room in the middle of the night and she found a guy and his daughter told him she had no idea who the guy was, of course he was going to get deffensive.

and before you go "oh nom trigger happy!" may I remind you that the guy told him to freeze? instead of busting the door and shooting a hole through him at once?

Well at least he did research. That's better than saying we should ban guns because you say it causes more tragedy than saving people without providing any sources.

But there is this: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries

"crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves"

Don't worry your pretty head about it. They're a pain in the ass, anyway.

@lightleggy: It doesn't really matter how old he looked, the fact is, the dad murdered a child in cold blood. If this was rape, why the hell didn't the daughter make a sound? If the kid had a weapon, where the **** was he stashing it? I find it hard to believe that he had a gun stuffed down his pants while he was making out with the daughter. How do we know the kid really even reached for something (what was he doing, pulling out his wallet)? Seems like an attempt by the father to cover up the fact he just plain murdered a kid for no reason other than his daughters feeble lie. If the dad had bothered to think for a second instead of trying to play the hero and blast a rapist full of holes, he would have come to the obvious conclusion that his daughter is like every other teenager on the planet (ie. horny).

A lack of screaming doesn't mean a rape isn't taking place. Some rape victims may go into shock and not make a sound while being raped. Or a rapist could cover their mouth and order them to be quiet or they will kill them. Not all rapes happen the way movies and TV shows portray them and as a dad trying to protect your daughter you are going to take her word for it when she says she doesn't know the guy, even though she may be lying to cover her own ass.

Even if she doesn't know him, that still doesn't mean it's rape.

I didn't say it was rape. I just said that a lack of screaming shouldn't be taken as a sign a rape isn't taking place. A concerned dad who cares about his daughter is usually going to think the worst when he is told a strange man is in her room and take action to protect her. Add the fact that she claimed that she didn't know who he is and the first thing that will come to most people's minds is rapist.

You come in (if you are paranoid like this dude just have the gun out of sight at least), check what the hell is going on, ask your daughter what she is doing, go from there.

Not SWAT style blast door down with gun drawn, aim at the kid and blow his head off the second he twitches because your daughter doesn't want to tell you she is having sex with him.

Uh, that's basically what he did. He checked what was going on, saw a strange man in his house, asked the daughter if she knew the guy, and then went from there. Even after discovering that no one knew the guy (which gives the father every justification to assume that the man is an intruder), he still told the guy to freeze so that he could contact the police.

I don't know what world you people live in where you find a stranger in your home, nobody in the house knows the dude, and you just think, "gee, there must be a perfectly innocent explanation for all this; we should probably discuss it over tea." It's a sad situation and it's tragic the the dude died, but he should have stayed still and waited to explain it to the police. And the blame for this really lies on the daughter, not the father. She was the only one in this story who had the ability to establish that the dude had any business being there, and instead she said, "nope, I don't know who the hell this guy is."

@lightleggy said:

@redstorm72 said:

Come on, does anyone actually believe the dad thought this kid was an intruder? The kid just happened to sneak into a crowded house, jump into bed with a girl his own age and have her not make a sound? Anyone with half a brain could have figured out what was going on. And I'm tired of hearing "oh, he was reaching for something!" as an excuse for murder. Seriously, was he stashing a Glock in his undies while he was porking your daughter?

The daughter was stupid, but teenagers in general are stupid. The dad was a grown man who should have had the brain capacity and judgement to realize what was going on. Also, this isn't an issue of gun control, the dad could have just as easily murdered that kid with a hunting rifle.

Damn they're hot. Too bad they're not legal...yet.

you guys are all thinking about this the wrong way. it's the little kid's fault who ratted out to his parents that his sister was getting busy. what a cockblocker.

Yeah, same thing I was thinking.

Cockblocking snitch.

Surprisingly I have had GFs get me into worse situations. Women are dangerous.