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They found the biggest WMD three weeks into the war, Saddam Hussein. Convicted and rightfully sentenced to hang for his crimes against humanity and genocide.

The sad part is, many Iraqis are no different than Saddam Hussein. That's why they still have this blood lust to kill each other off.

Not that I'm complaining.

They found the biggest WMD three weeks into the war, Saddam Hussein. Convicted and rightfully sentenced to hang for his crimes against humanity and genocide.

The sad part is, many Iraqis are no different than Saddam Hussein. That's why they still have this blood lust to kill each other off.

Not that I'm complaining.

p2250

Sounds more like he's 13 and making up stories. Either that or he has the mind of a 13 year old,

I think we should just let the Muslims keep on continuting to fight each other, and wait and see what happens.

That part of the world is very backward and dangerous.

p2250

I can safely say that none of you have the slightest clue about what you are talking about.

You have no idea of the mission at hand in Afghanistan, the completed mission in Iraq or anything about the Middle Eastern region in general.

You know nothing about grunts, because 13F is not in the infantry field. He is a tubestroker, if I recall, or the FDC - who knows.

Bottom line is he probably will never kill anyone, and the ignorance displayed by the initial post between the two conversators goes to show the state of American intelligence.

[QUOTE="p2250"]

They found the biggest WMD three weeks into the war, Saddam Hussein. Convicted and rightfully sentenced to hang for his crimes against humanity and genocide.

The sad part is, many Iraqis are no different than Saddam Hussein. That's why they still have this blood lust to kill each other off.

Not that I'm complaining.

krazy-blazer

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="p2250"]

They found the biggest WMD three weeks into the war, Saddam Hussein. Convicted and rightfully sentenced to hang for his crimes against humanity and genocide.

The sad part is, many Iraqis are no different than Saddam Hussein. That's why they still have this blood lust to kill each other off.

Not that I'm complaining.

super_mario_128

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Way to generalize all Iraqis by saying they're no different from a genocidal psychopath, and this is coming from a KUWAITI.krazy-blazer

Iraqis and Afghans have proven to be much better at killing themselves than any American display of power will ever be capable of doing.

Iraqis and Afghans have proven to be much better at killing themselves than any American display of power will ever be capable of doing.

ok wow.. that guy your talking too is for sure just a brand new Private that just probably graduated Basic Training or AIT.. all he really is, is a Artillery Observer.. to be honest, he don't really do much.. in my 2 deployments i've yet to seen them really do anything.. though it is still a Combat Arms MOS.. and he is nothing like the Special Forces, he just pretty much fed you some B.S.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Way to generalize all Iraqis by saying they're no different from a genocidal psychopath, and this is coming from a KUWAITI.krazy-blazer

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with freedom. It was fought purely over the large oil reserves the country has.

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with freedom. It was fought purely over the large oil reserves the country has.

Dark_Knight6

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with freedom. It was fought purely over the large oil reserves the country has.

p2250

Hitler declared war on America. The fight with the Axis was in self-defense.

Sounds like a COD player.

Lto_thaG

He doesn't sound like a legit solider.

I know plenty of real life soldiers who have seen combat. Very good guys and never brag about it. Hell one of them has even admitted that some of the stuff that happened over there just stays with you.

I also love the posters in this thread who just call soldiers mindlessly following orders and being generally idiotic. I just have to say you have no idea how any military of any country in the world works nor do you understand the need for a military in any country.

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with freedom. It was fought purely over the large oil reserves the country has.

Dark_Knight6

hahahahahahaha

We've fought over oil, twice before - like actually legit fought because of oil. Iraq was not one of them. Those oil reserves were never in dangerfrom being out of American purchaseat any point in time.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with freedom. It was fought purely over the large oil reserves the country has.

fissionfusion

hahahahahahaha

We've fought over oil, twice before - like actually legit fought because of oil. Iraq was not one of them. Those oil reserves were never in dangerfrom being out of American purchaseat any point in time.

Then please do tell me what the reason for invading and occupying Iraq for several years was.

[QUOTE="fissionfusion"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with freedom. It was fought purely over the large oil reserves the country has.

Dark_Knight6

hahahahahahaha

We've fought over oil, twice before - like actually legit fought because of oil. Iraq was not one of them. Those oil reserves were never in dangerfrom being out of American purchaseat any point in time.

Then please do tell me what the reason for invading and occupying Iraq for several years was.

Flawed foreign policy and a failed military plan.

Nearly all of the major oil contracts have gone to China.

[QUOTE="fissionfusion"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with freedom. It was fought purely over the large oil reserves the country has.

Dark_Knight6

hahahahahahaha

We've fought over oil, twice before - like actually legit fought because of oil. Iraq was not one of them. Those oil reserves were never in dangerfrom being out of American purchaseat any point in time.

Then please do tell me what the reason for invading and occupying Iraq for several years was.

#1 Because W did not like Saddam.

#2 Because of an ever growing presence of Middle Eastern chest thumping.

Combine those two and you have a reason for a power check. Casus belli is the excuse that can be sold, and it sold beautifully. WMD, liberation, oil - really didn't matter because those are all semi-tangible reasons which can easily be discarded and ignored. Now, a show of ultimate force, modern day invasion and occupation?

That put the entire world on hold. Not too many people getting brave these days besides the typical Iran and N.Korea.

I can safely say that none of you have the slightest clue about what you are talking about.

You have no idea of the mission at hand in Afghanistan, the completed mission in Iraq or anything about the Middle Eastern region in general.

You know nothing about grunts, because 13F is not in the infantry field. He is a tubestroker, if I recall, or the FDC - who knows.

Bottom line is he probably will never kill anyone, and the ignorance displayed by the initial post between the two conversators goes to show the state of American intelligence.

fissionfusion

13F is Forward Observer. They're attached to infantry units. But yeah, 13F is definitely not 11B. That's insulting to me.

[QUOTE="p2250"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with freedom. It was fought purely over the large oil reserves the country has.

Dark_Knight6

Hitler declared war on America. The fight with the Axis was in self-defense.

Islamist extremists also declared war on America...:|

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="p2250"] Yes, and fighting Hitler was all about oil too.SpartanMSU

Hitler declared war on America. The fight with the Axis was in self-defense.

Islamist extremists also declared war on America...:|

You fail to see the difference between terrorists and a head of state. Plus to this day no ties between Al Qaeda where discovered nor any WMD were found.

I'd advise you to watch No End in Sight

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="p2250"] Yes, and fighting Hitler was all about oil too.SpartanMSU

Hitler declared war on America. The fight with the Axis was in self-defense.

Islamist extremists also declared war on America...:|

What do they have to do with Iraq?

On a side note, I know I over-simplified with my oil comments, which I should not have done.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Hitler declared war on America. The fight with the Axis was in self-defense.

shinian

Islamist extremists also declared war on America...:|

You fail to see the difference between terrorists and a head of state. Plus to this day no ties between Al Qaeda where discovered nor any WMD were found.

I'd advise you to watch No End in Sight

No, I do know the difference. Which is why we aren't at war with Afghanistan nor Iraq.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Hitler declared war on America. The fight with the Axis was in self-defense.

Dark_Knight6

Islamist extremists also declared war on America...:|

What do they have to do with Iraq?

On a side note, I know I over-simplified with my oil comments, which I should not have done.

Are you serious?

[QUOTE="shinian"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Islamist extremists also declared war on America...:|

SpartanMSU

You fail to see the difference between terrorists and a head of state. Plus to this day no ties between Al Qaeda where discovered nor any WMD were found.

I'd advise you to watch No End in Sight

No, I do know the difference. Which is why we aren't at war with Afghanistan nor Iraq.

Peace keeping, stabilization, what's the difference. We're in a country, far from home, where no one wants us and because of our presence people are dying. On both sides.

edit: I'm writing about Iraq, to be clear. We had a legitimate reason to start the Afghanistan Campaign.

Are you serious?

SpartanMSU

Are you? There are no ties between Saddam Hussein and the Taliban or Al Qaeda.

He doesn't sound like a legit solider.

I know plenty of real life soldiers who have seen combat. Very good guys and never brag about it. Hell one of them has even admitted that some of the stuff that happened over there just stays with you.

I also love the posters in this thread who just call soldiers mindlessly following orders and being generally idiotic. I just have to say you have no idea how any military of any country in the world works nor do you understand the need for a military in any country.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Are you serious?

Dark_Knight6

Are you? There are no ties between Saddam Hussein and the Taliban or Al Qaeda.

Did I ever say this? Again, we aren't at war with Iraq...

This pissed me off. I kind of just tolerated with it instead of arguing with him, because...well, he was cute.

But I could not believe what he was saying.

Does this kind of stuff piss you off, too? Or is it just me? Just...GRAR! UGH.

tepni

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

He doesn't sound like a legit solider.

I know plenty of real life soldiers who have seen combat. Very good guys and never brag about it. Hell one of them has even admitted that some of the stuff that happened over there just stays with you.

I also love the posters in this thread who just call soldiers mindlessly following orders and being generally idiotic. I just have to say you have no idea how any military of any country in the world works nor do you understand the need for a military in any country.

tepni

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Are you serious?

SpartanMSU

Are you? There are no ties between Saddam Hussein and the Taliban or Al Qaeda.

Did I ever say this? Again, we aren't at war with Iraq...

Then why did America invade and occupy Iraq and why is your comment on Islamic extremists relevant?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

He doesn't sound like a legit solider.

I know plenty of real life soldiers who have seen combat. Very good guys and never brag about it. Hell one of them has even admitted that some of the stuff that happened over there just stays with you.

I also love the posters in this thread who just call soldiers mindlessly following orders and being generally idiotic. I just have to say you have no idea how any military of any country in the world works nor do you understand the need for a military in any country.

tepni

Then keep on living your life as provided to you by The United States of America.

He doesn't sound like a legit solider.

I know plenty of real life soldiers who have seen combat. Very good guys and never brag about it. Hell one of them has even admitted that some of the stuff that happened over there just stays with you.

Wasdie

Because that's your experience means it must be everyones, mirite?

Iraqis and Afghans have proven to be much better at killing themselves than any American display of power will ever be capable of doing.

fissionfusion

As long as they keep masquerading as civilians U.S forces have to wait until they make a move or suicide bomb. U.S citizens won't accept what it takes to defeat guerrillas. They think if they look like a civilian they must be, AND that's what keeps the guerrillas alive AND obviouslythe guerrillas know that. But that's okay, they can live their lives looking over shoulders and scurrying in the shadows. We will always live care freewhile they live in fear. Which is funny, because they are victimized by their own philosophy. I don't hide, I don't look over my shoulder, doyou?

The U.Scould killall of themin a matter of hours, but I don't think the rest of the world would approve of the U.S rolling and shooting and shelling everything that moves.

Sure killing everyone in the country is a quick and easy way of taking care of the enemy that lies within, but that's the kind of thing that starts a world war.

[QUOTE="p2250"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with freedom. It was fought purely over the large oil reserves the country has.

Hitler declared war on America. The fight with the Axis was in self-defense.

he's an idiot, but don't worry, you will find them wherever you go.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

He doesn't sound like a legit solider.

I know plenty of real life soldiers who have seen combat. Very good guys and never brag about it. Hell one of them has even admitted that some of the stuff that happened over there just stays with you.

I also love the posters in this thread who just call soldiers mindlessly following orders and being generally idiotic. I just have to say you have no idea how any military of any country in the world works nor do you understand the need for a military in any country.

tepni

[QUOTE="tepni"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

He doesn't sound like a legit solider.

I know plenty of real life soldiers who have seen combat. Very good guys and never brag about it. Hell one of them has even admitted that some of the stuff that happened over there just stays with you.

I also love the posters in this thread who just call soldiers mindlessly following orders and being generally idiotic. I just have to say you have no idea how any military of any country in the world works nor do you understand the need for a military in any country.

needled24-7

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="tepni"] This is true..I mean I'm sure there are good people in the military.. I just don't like war. Period. I don't like the thought of anyone's death. Or killing one another. Killing strangers. I'll never like the thought of that no matter the reason.tepni

What if they gave us war, and no one came? - John Lennon

What if they gave us war, and only one side showed up? - Fissionfusion

Worst. Argument. Ever.

[QUOTE="tepni"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]people killing other people is indeed not a pleasant thought, but you can't just not have war.

fissionfusion

What if they gave us war, and no one came? - John Lennon

What if they gave us war, and only one side showed up? - Fissionfusion

Worst. Argument. Ever.

DoD folks, including active duty military, aren't supposed to disclose their specialties, where they're at, and what they do.

I think this thread needs some pictures -

Free Sgt Hutch!

I think if everyone stopped thinking like, "we can't just not have war", "we must kill", then maybe we COULD just not have war. Haha I hope that made some sense...tepni

What if they gave us war, and no one came? - John Lennon

What if they gave us war, and only one side showed up? - Fissionfusion

Worst. Argument. Ever.

[QUOTE="p2250"]

I think we should just let the Muslims keep on continuting to fight each other, and wait and see what happens.

That part of the world is very backward and dangerous.

krazy-blazer

that guy hates islam and muslims. its best to ignore that re.......aww nevermind