Do you feel that cannibalism ought to be in grounds for leniency in murder, as it's less wasteful? An enlightening man by the name of Bill W. brought this overlooked hotbed to my attention recently.
Cannibalism is unhealthy, but in certain contexts it should be legal. There was a case in Germany where a guy voluntarily allowed himself to be killed and eaten by another man in a sexual manner. This is bizarre to say the least, but both parties agreed to this, and the cannibal was arrested. I think that's wrong. The guy didn't o anything to anyone that he didn't explicitly want done. No crime here, as far as I can see. Also, that joke about cannibalism being less wasteful is from Calvin and Hobbes if I remember right.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Cannibalism is unhealthy, but in certain contexts it should be legal. There was a case in Germany where a guy voluntarily allowed himself to be killed and eaten by another man in a sexual manner. This is bizarre to say the least, but both parties agreed to this, and the cannibal was arrested. I think that's wrong. The guy didn't o anything to anyone that he didn't explicitly want done. No crime here, as far as I can see. Also, that joke about cannibalism being less wasteful is from Calvin and Hobbes if I remember right. so if someone says 'hey can you kill me i wanna die' and you say 'yea sure boom' that should be fine?
[QUOTE="cheese_game619"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Cannibalism is unhealthy, but in certain contexts it should be legal. There was a case in Germany where a guy voluntarily allowed himself to be killed and eaten by another man in a sexual manner. This is bizarre to say the least, but both parties agreed to this, and the cannibal was arrested. I think that's wrong. The guy didn't o anything to anyone that he didn't explicitly want done. No crime here, as far as I can see. Also, that joke about cannibalism being less wasteful is from Calvin and Hobbes if I remember right. so if someone says 'hey can you kill me i wanna die' and you say 'yea sure boom' that should be fine? Not if it's just some flippant remark. They had a contract, as I recall. I don't believe it's the position of me or anyone else to tell others how to enjoy their consensual relations, sexual or otherwise. If someone wants to be eaten to express some strange fetish, I don't believe any third party should step in to stop that. People enjoy all sorts of sexual kinks that can be damaging to them. This was just particularly strange.
[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"][QUOTE="Bane_09"] Man, OT will make you explain anything now days. Soon enough we're going to have to explain how murder is wrong.
[QUOTE="Ugalde-"]Lol he has to explain that?Zeviander
Yeah, why would anyone have to explain anything? I rest my case.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Cannibalism is unhealthy, but in certain contexts it should be legal. There was a case in Germany where a guy voluntarily allowed himself to be killed and eaten by another man in a sexual manner. This is bizarre to say the least, but both parties agreed to this, and the cannibal was arrested. I think that's wrong. The guy didn't o anything to anyone that he didn't explicitly want done. No crime here, as far as I can see. Also, that joke about cannibalism being less wasteful is from Calvin and Hobbes if I remember right. The crime is that he killed and ate a guy.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Cannibalism is unhealthy, but in certain contexts it should be legal. There was a case in Germany where a guy voluntarily allowed himself to be killed and eaten by another man in a sexual manner. This is bizarre to say the least, but both parties agreed to this, and the cannibal was arrested. I think that's wrong. The guy didn't o anything to anyone that he didn't explicitly want done. No crime here, as far as I can see. Also, that joke about cannibalism being less wasteful is from Calvin and Hobbes if I remember right.MrGeezer
The crime is that he killed and ate a guy. Yeah, and I'm saying that since the guy explicitly wanted to be killed and eaten that the other guy shouldn't be in jail. We don't charge people who engage in consensual BDSM sex acts with assault. Really, this is just a far more extreme version of that.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Cannibalism is unhealthy, but in certain contexts it should be legal. There was a case in Germany where a guy voluntarily allowed himself to be killed and eaten by another man in a sexual manner. This is bizarre to say the least, but both parties agreed to this, and the cannibal was arrested. I think that's wrong. The guy didn't o anything to anyone that he didn't explicitly want done. No crime here, as far as I can see. Also, that joke about cannibalism being less wasteful is from Calvin and Hobbes if I remember right. The crime is that he killed and ate a guy. ...with his full consent.
[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Cannibalism is unhealthy, but in certain contexts it should be legal. There was a case in Germany where a guy voluntarily allowed himself to be killed and eaten by another man in a sexual manner. This is bizarre to say the least, but both parties agreed to this, and the cannibal was arrested. I think that's wrong. The guy didn't o anything to anyone that he didn't explicitly want done. No crime here, as far as I can see. Also, that joke about cannibalism being less wasteful is from Calvin and Hobbes if I remember right. The crime is that he killed and ate a guy. ...with his full consent. Seriously? Are you that stupid?
[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"] The crime is that he killed and ate a guy. ...with his full consent. Seriously? Are you that stupid? It's called assisted suicide.
[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] ...with his full consent. Seriously? Are you that stupid? It's called assisted suicide. Assisted suicide is usually done when somebody is already dying and wants to end the pain. You're talking about killing somebody for sexual pleasure. You're seriously a moron.
[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] Seriously? Are you that stupid? It's called assisted suicide. Assisted suicide is usually done when somebody is already dying and wants to end the pain. You're talking about killing somebody for sexual pleasure. You're seriously a moron. Usually, but not always. You're narrowing the definition for no reason. If one wants to commit suicide, then surely that person's modus operandi is none of our business.
Yeah, and I'm saying that since the guy explicitly wanted to be killed and eaten that the other guy shouldn't be in jail. We don't charge people who engage in consensual BDSM sex acts with assault. Really, this is just a far more extreme version of that.Rhazakna
Let's put it tis way...if some kid walks up to me and asks me to buy the bottle of booze I'm carrying, then I sell it to him and he drinks it and he dies, do I get let ofdf the hook? Or is it more like, "f*** you, buddy. I don't care if he consented. you don't sell kids booze." People ask to buy $*** all the time. They ask to buy guns, they ask to buy drugs, they ask to buy sex, they ask to buy invasive foreign species so that they can plant them in their front yards and ruin the entire local ecosystem. Yes, people want stuff, I'm not disputing that. What I am disputing is the idea that just because someone asked you for something means that it's okay for you to give it to them.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]Yeah, and I'm saying that since the guy explicitly wanted to be killed and eaten that the other guy shouldn't be in jail. We don't charge people who engage in consensual BDSM sex acts with assault. Really, this is just a far more extreme version of that.MrGeezer
Let's put it tis way...if some kid walks up to me and asks me to buy the bottle of booze I'm carrying, then I sell it to him and he drinks it and he dies, do I get let ofdf the hook? Or is it more like, "f*** you, buddy. I don't care if he consented. you don't sell kids booze." People ask to buy $*** all the time. They ask to buy guns, they ask to buy drugs, they ask to buy sex, they ask to buy invasive foreign species so that they can plant them in their front yards and ruin the entire local ecosystem. Yes, people want stuff, I'm not disputing that. What I am disputing is the idea that just because someone asked you for something means that it's okay for you to give it to them. And I fundamentally disagree that some meddlesome third party like yourself should be able decide what I voluntarily do to myself. Just who the f*ck do you think you are telling someone else how they can enjoy their sexuality or their life in general? Should dominant BDSM practitioners be charged with assault? If not, why not? When is it OK for someone to ask to be damaged, and by what metric do we define limits? Most importantly, why should you or any third party decide these things for other people? This inane and logic-free post is what I've come to expect from MrGeezer and his unlettered bloviations.
What's wrong with it though? Nobody is a victim if the guy chooses to be eaten.
applesxc47
Some people feel that they should have the ability to dictate just how others voluntarily choose to enjoy themselves. These people are pathetic busy-bodies, and the reason for most of society's problems.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"] And I fundamentally disagree that some meddlesome third party like yourself should be able decide what I voluntarily do to myself. Just who the f*ck do you think you are telling someone else how they can enjoy their sexuality or their life in general? Should dominant BDSM practitioners be charged with assault? If not, why not? When is it OK for someone to ask to be damaged, and by what metric do we define limits? Most importantly, why should you or any third party decide these things for other people? This inane and logic-free post is what I've come to expect from MrGeezer and his unlettered bloviations. Doing stuff to YOURSELF stops the very second that SOMEONE ELSE freaking kills you and eats you. You DIDN'T do that to yourself, someone else did. Now...if you want to kill and then eat yourself, and if you somehow manage to actually do that, then I won't have an issue. Until then...hell no, you can't kill and eat another person. Not even if they ask you to.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] And I fundamentally disagree that some meddlesome third party like yourself should be able decide what I voluntarily do to myself. Just who the f*ck do you think you are telling someone else how they can enjoy their sexuality or their life in general? Should dominant BDSM practitioners be charged with assault? If not, why not? When is it OK for someone to ask to be damaged, and by what metric do we define limits? Most importantly, why should you or any third party decide these things for other people? This inane and logic-free post is what I've come to expect from MrGeezer and his unlettered bloviations. Doing stuff to YOURSELF stops the very second that SOMEONE ELSE freaking kills you and eats you. You DIDN'T do that to yourself, someone else did. Now...if you want to kill and then eat yourself, and if you somehow manage to actually do that, then I won't have an issue. Until then...hell no, you can't kill and eat another person. Not even if they ask you to. As I expected you didn't answer anything I asked, or provide any justification for why any third party should be able to enforce their preferences on others. I understand your arbitrary standard, I'm asking why you or anyone else should have the ability to inflict it on others.By this asinine standard, cops should raid BDSM clubs and arrest all the doms fore assault and maybe attempted murder. Your moral prescriptions are incoherent and absurd. You don't even have a bad argument, all you have are assertions of your moronic opinions.
What if somebody has it in their will that they are to be consumed by consenting adults when they die? What actual justifications exist for not being permitted to consume the individual? What is wrong with the actual consumption of the human flesh?
All I can think of are the health risks. But we let people consume copious amounts of food, cigarettes, alcohol and medications...
Once again, the anti-cannibalism nuts can't actually answer the hard-hitting questions.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"] As I expected you didn't answer anything I asked, or provide any justification for why any third party should be able to enforce their preferences on others. I understand your arbitrary standard, I'm asking why you or anyone else should have the ability to inflict it on others.By this asinine standard, cops should raid BDSM clubs and arrest all the doms fore assault and maybe attempted murder. Your moral prescriptions are incoherent and absurd. You don't even have a bad argument, all you have are assertions of your moronic opinions. The very easy answer is, society doesn't f***ing work when we're allowed to kill each other. So there are laws against us killing other people. Society is largely built around PROTECTING people from those who would take advantage of them. "People who would kill and eat you" generally tends to fit within those parameters. Sure...there are certainly SOME situations in which it is okay to kill a person. Fewer situations in which it is okay to eat another person. Even fewer situations in which it's okay to kill another person and THEN eat him or her. For starters, this is WAY too subject to abuse, since killing a person and then eating them sort of means that they aren't around to undergo a psychiatric evaluation to determine that they weren't extremely mentally ill. We can't exactly determine that the person was sane and in good mental health AFTER he was killed and eaten, so there's a flat-out ban. Even if he signed an extensive contract, there's no way of determining that he wasn't f***ed in the head, and that the person who killed and ate him wasn't just taking advantage of someone who was extremely mentally ill. It's also illegal to have sexual intercourse with a child, even if he or she says it's okay? Why? Because it's deemed that small children can't appreciate or deal with the ramifications of sex. They aren't mentally and intellectually able to give consent, so it's all on the adult who's giving it to them. That's protecting them from people who damn sure know better. F*** a child and you go to prison (even if they ask for it). Kill and eat a dude, you go to prison (even if he asks for it). It's not about the fact that they wanted it, it's about the fact that you f***ing knew better and still did it anyway.
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