BBC: More than 10 Palestinians killed in an Israeli strike on thier house

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#251 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

and yet thats where it comes from, would you rather it was called something else? hell, we think Hertzl had the general right idea, he even has a city named after him :PDarkman2007

Unfortunately, there isn't really much that it could be named for. :P

Maybe Israelism. While that would still be using Yisroel's name, at least he's our ancestor. As opposed to using the name of the Holy Land and doing unholy things with it.

#252 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="thebest31406"] So his wife and kids are expendable/superfluous, yes?thebest31406

Clearly they are to him.

And for the ones who bomb the home?

If you don't love your family, don't expect your enemy (who hates you) to.
#253 Posted by WhiteKnight77 (12018 posts) -

"Egypt's Prime Minister wept today as he kissed the forehead of a boy killed in an Israeli airstrike on Gaza." turns out 'israeli airstike' might have meant misfired Hamas rocket, but I'm glad Mirror, CNN et al were quick to assume.MrPraline

I predict many here will ignore this newest revelation and still want to blame Israel on the kids death.

#254 Posted by thebest31406 (3323 posts) -
[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

Clearly they are to him.

th3warr1or
And for the ones who bomb the home?

If you don't love your family, don't expect your enemy (who hates you) to.

Yeah, I thought so.
#255 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]and yet thats where it comes from, would you rather it was called something else? hell, we think Hertzl had the general right idea, he even has a city named after him :Pth3warr1or

Unfortunately, there isn't really much that it could be named for. :P

don't know if you want to laugh at Hertzeliya, quite a few rich people in there, its quite a nice city. why are not happy with Hertzl? besides his extreme secularism.
#256 Posted by PWSteal_Ldpinch (1208 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowJax04"]Great. Now we'll have even more of them begging to go to scandinaviaMrPraline
hah no worries, they will have better luck here in islamsterdam

Hey Praline would you welcome GazaAli into your country? You don't have to answer if it makes you uncomfortable. I was just wondering.

#257 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]and yet thats where it comes from, would you rather it was called something else? hell, we think Hertzl had the general right idea, he even has a city named after him :PDarkman2007

Unfortunately, there isn't really much that it could be named for. :P

don't know if you want to laugh at Hertzeliya, quite a few rich people in there, its quite a nice city. why are not happy with Hertzl? besides his extreme secularism.

That might be a little hard, since it's more or less his extreme secularism. :P

I don't hate him or anything, but I feel like his ideas were very damaging to Jewry. May have been, and probably were mostly done with a good intention, but as the proverb goes, the "road to hell is paved with good intentions."

#258 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -
r[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

Unfortunately, there isn't really much that it could be named for. :P

th3warr1or
don't know if you want to laugh at Hertzeliya, quite a few rich people in there, its quite a nice city. why are not happy with Hertzl? besides his extreme secularism.

That might be a little hard, since it's more or less his extreme secularism. :P I don't hate him or anything, but I feel like his ideas were very damaging to Jewry. May have been, and probably were mostly done with a good intention, but as the proverb goes, the "road to hell is paved with good intentions."

well even I have some issues with his ideas (the lack of Hebrew was one) you religious by any chance?
#259 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150376 posts) -
[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] And for the ones who bomb the home?

If you don't love your family, don't expect your enemy (who hates you) to.

Yeah, I thought so.

lol dude.
#260 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]r[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] don't know if you want to laugh at Hertzeliya, quite a few rich people in there, its quite a nice city. why are not happy with Hertzl? besides his extreme secularism.Darkman2007
That might be a little hard, since it's more or less his extreme secularism. :P I don't hate him or anything, but I feel like his ideas were very damaging to Jewry. May have been, and probably were mostly done with a good intention, but as the proverb goes, the "road to hell is paved with good intentions."

well even I have some issues with his ideas (the lack of Hebrew was one) you religious by any chance?

I am. :)

#261 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] That might be a little hard, since it's more or less his extreme secularism. :P I don't hate him or anything, but I feel like his ideas were very damaging to Jewry. May have been, and probably were mostly done with a good intention, but as the proverb goes, the "road to hell is paved with good intentions."th3warr1or

well even I have some issues with his ideas (the lack of Hebrew was one) you religious by any chance?

I am. :)

reform? Orthodox?
#262 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150376 posts) -
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] well even I have some issues with his ideas (the lack of Hebrew was one) you religious by any chance?Darkman2007

I am. :)

reform? Orthodox?

Reformed Orthodox......it's the rage now.>__>
#263 Posted by LordQuorthon (5289 posts) -

Hey Praline would you welcome GazaAli into your country? You don't have to answer if it makes you uncomfortable. I was just wondering.

PWSteal_Ldpinch

What is this? I don't even...

#264 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

I am. :)

LJS9502_basic
reform? Orthodox?

Reformed Orthodox......it's the rage now.>__>

you will be surprised, but Modern Orthofox does exist, at least in the diaspora.
#265 Posted by LJS9502_basic (150376 posts) -
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] reform? Orthodox?

Reformed Orthodox......it's the rage now.>__>

you will be surprised, but Modern Orthofox does exist, at least in the diaspora.

I can't keep all the different sects straight.:(
#266 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Reformed Orthodox......it's the rage now.>__>

you will be surprised, but Modern Orthofox does exist, at least in the diaspora.

I can't keep all the different sects straight.:(

don't worry, neither can us :P most of those sects don't really exist in Israel though , the system is different.
#267 Posted by KiIIyou (27145 posts) -
dang house strikers.
#268 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] well even I have some issues with his ideas (the lack of Hebrew was one) you religious by any chance?Darkman2007

I am. :)

reform? Orthodox?

You have no idea how tough a question this has been for me to answer. I've been typing and retyping for the past 10 minutes. :lol:

This is what I've settled with: I'm either the most modernized charedi in existance or a Modern Orthodox with slight haredi leanings; I'm not as religiously observant as most charedim.

Like, I have payos (most modern orthodox people I know don't) but I don't gender segregate (seriously, that is absurd to me). And I watch TV, play video games (I'm on gamespot lol) and whatnot. I do wear a hat (or at least a cap) whenever I'm out, and I only wear shorts at home.

#269 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

I am. :)

th3warr1or

reform? Orthodox?

You have no idea how tough a question this has been to answer. I've been typing and retyping for the past 10 minutes.

This is what I've settled with: I'm either the most modernized charedi in existance or a Modern Orthodox with slight haredi leanings; I'm not as religiously observant as most charedim.

Like, I have payos (most modern orthodox people I know, don't) but I don't gender segregate (seriously, that is absurd to me). And I watch TV, play video games (I'm on gamespot lol) and whatnot. I do wear a hat (or at least a cap) whenever I'm out, and I only wear shorts at home.

so youre...a modereformadox :P should start a synagouge like that.

and its odd, the synagouges Ive ever attended had gender segregation , so its not that I see it as right or wrong, its more out of habit that I kind of expect it.

#270 Posted by Jackc8 (8500 posts) -

So what? 11 people were killed in a shantytown in Bangladesh, a bush crash in Egypt killed 50 children, a guy who used to be a mayor in Mexico was found beaten to death.

Or are we supposed to care about the Palestinians more because have they have parties in the streets on 9/11 to celebrate all those Americans getting killed? I certainly don't give a f*** about them. I hope they keep p***ing off the Israelis real good and get their whole damned territory levelled.

#271 Posted by chrisrooR (9026 posts) -
Can anyone summarize the conflict for me? I tried reading up about it, and it seems that unless I want to spend a few days trying to understand it all, I won't be able to.
#272 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] reform? Orthodox?Darkman2007

You have no idea how tough a question this has been to answer. I've been typing and retyping for the past 10 minutes.

This is what I've settled with: I'm either the most modernized charedi in existance or a Modern Orthodox with slight haredi leanings; I'm not as religiously observant as most charedim.

Like, I have payos (most modern orthodox people I know, don't) but I don't gender segregate (seriously, that is absurd to me). And I watch TV, play video games (I'm on gamespot lol) and whatnot. I do wear a hat (or at least a cap) whenever I'm out, and I only wear shorts at home.

so youre...a modereformadox :P should start a synagouge like that.

Modern Charedi maybe. No reform in there. :P I fully accept Rambam's Shloshah Asar Ikkarim, and to my knowledge Reform Jews don't.

#273 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] reform? Orthodox?Darkman2007

You have no idea how tough a question this has been to answer. I've been typing and retyping for the past 10 minutes.

This is what I've settled with: I'm either the most modernized charedi in existance or a Modern Orthodox with slight haredi leanings; I'm not as religiously observant as most charedim.

Like, I have payos (most modern orthodox people I know, don't) but I don't gender segregate (seriously, that is absurd to me). And I watch TV, play video games (I'm on gamespot lol) and whatnot. I do wear a hat (or at least a cap) whenever I'm out, and I only wear shorts at home.

so youre...a modereformadox :P should start a synagouge like that.

and its odd, the synagouges Ive ever attended had gender segregation , so its not that I see it as right or wrong, its more out of habit that I kind of expect it.

Oh, gender segregation in synagogue is there of course. Nothing absurd about that. I fully accept it because I know that if there were girls sitting next to me, I'd definitely not be able to focus on whatever the Rabbi says. :lol: I'd rather have gender segregation in shul actually, cause women are too much of a distraction. :P

I meant in like everyday life. I'm fine with getting served by female servers etc, and I have female friends.

#274 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

You have no idea how tough a question this has been to answer. I've been typing and retyping for the past 10 minutes.

This is what I've settled with: I'm either the most modernized charedi in existance or a Modern Orthodox with slight haredi leanings; I'm not as religiously observant as most charedim.

Like, I have payos (most modern orthodox people I know, don't) but I don't gender segregate (seriously, that is absurd to me). And I watch TV, play video games (I'm on gamespot lol) and whatnot. I do wear a hat (or at least a cap) whenever I'm out, and I only wear shorts at home.

th3warr1or

so youre...a modereformadox :P should start a synagouge like that.

Modern Charedi maybe. No reform in there. :P I fully accept Rambam's Shloshah Asar Ikkarim, and to my knowledge Reform Jews don't.

they are the only ones who don't segregate though , so there is that. Im not even going to try and ID myself , the way we think about religion and such is different.
#275 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

they are the only ones who don't segregate though , so there is that.Darkman2007

Yeah I realized that, so I edited my post to better reflect my thoughts.

There is gender segregation in Shul; I just don't practice it in my everyday life.

#276 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]they are the only ones who don't segregate though , so there is that.th3warr1or

Yeah I realized that, so I edited my post to better reflect my thoughts.

I wonder, how do you contend with the crazies of Neturei Karta (or Satmar , for instance) and such? whats your opinion of them?
#277 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]they are the only ones who don't segregate though , so there is that.Darkman2007

Yeah I realized that, so I edited my post to better reflect my thoughts.

I wonder, how do you contend with the crazies of Neturei Karta (or Satmar , for instance) and such? whats your opinion of them?

Funny you should ask that. I actually volunteered that information in my initial post, but then I removed it because I was like "Okay this is getting to be like a prison share&care session. You just asked if I'm orthodox or reform."

Satmar. Well, Satmar Rebbe wrote (or rather quoted a Talmudic source) that since Moshiach would come when Jews had no sovereignty over them (foreign or otherwise), the existence of a Zionist government was actually hindering his coming. So while I don't subscribe to that belief, Satmarer have a reason for opposing Zionism.

Neturei Karta on the other hand, are full blown morons in denial. Anti-Zionism is one thing (at times I can be considered as such), but they're idiots if they believe what they believe. And they do. Thus, they're idiots. They're also incredibly wrong, based on facts, based on evidence, based on events that have transpired.

#278 Posted by nunovlopes (2603 posts) -

[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

Clearly they are to him.

th3warr1or

And for the ones who bomb the home?

If you don't love your family, don't expect your enemy (who hates you) to.

That's twisted and dumb logic.

#279 Posted by nunovlopes (2603 posts) -

So what? 11 people were killed in a shantytown in Bangladesh, a bush crash in Egypt killed 50 children, a guy who used to be a mayor in Mexico was found beaten to death.

Or are we supposed to care about the Palestinians more because have they have parties in the streets on 9/11 to celebrate all those Americans getting killed? I certainly don't give a f*** about them. I hope they keep p***ing off the Israelis real good and get their whole damned territory levelled.

Jackc8

A bus crash is an accident... As in no one caused it on purpose... not exactly the same thing...

#280 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] And for the ones who bomb the home?nunovlopes

If you don't love your family, don't expect your enemy (who hates you) to.

That's twisted and dumb logic.

Too bad. That's reality. Don't like it, move to somewhere where reality doesn't have a monopoly on life.

And no, it's neither twisted, nor dumb. Nobody will ever love your family more than you love your own. If you don't, don't expect someone else to, much less someone who wants you dead.

#281 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jackc8"]

So what? 11 people were killed in a shantytown in Bangladesh, a bush crash in Egypt killed 50 children, a guy who used to be a mayor in Mexico was found beaten to death.

Or are we supposed to care about the Palestinians more because have they have parties in the streets on 9/11 to celebrate all those Americans getting killed? I certainly don't give a f*** about them. I hope they keep p***ing off the Israelis real good and get their whole damned territory levelled.

nunovlopes

A bus crash is an accident... As in no one caused it on purpose... not exactly the same thing...

A premature death is a premature death, regardless of cause.
#282 Posted by wis3boi (31126 posts) -

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

It's funny how he practically admitted that he has a problem with Jews, and not Zionists.

Like most anti-semites, they use Zionism as an excuse, but they've been hating on Jews since long before the founder of Zionism was ever conceived.

th3warr1or

Who is the founder of Zionism in your opinion?

Theodore Herzl.

False, it's shadowmoses :P

#283 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] Who is the founder of Zionism in your opinion?wis3boi

Theodore Herzl.

False, it's shadowmoses :P

Your sig is fantastic. I can't look away. I have no idea how I never noticed it until now.
#284 Posted by wis3boi (31126 posts) -

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

Theodore Herzl.

th3warr1or

False, it's shadowmoses :P

Your sig is fantastic. I can't look away. I have no idea how I never noticed it until now.

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#285 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

Yeah I realized that, so I edited my post to better reflect my thoughts.

th3warr1or

I wonder, how do you contend with the crazies of Neturei Karta (or Satmar , for instance) and such? whats your opinion of them?

Funny you should ask that. I actually volunteered that information in my initial post, but then I removed it because I was like "Okay this is getting to be like a prison share&care session. You just asked if I'm orthodox or reform."

Satmar. Well, Satmar Rebbe wrote (or rather quoted a Talmudic source) that since Moshiach would come when Jews had no sovereignty over them (foreign or otherwise), the existence of a Zionist government was actually hindering his coming. So while I don't subscribe to that belief, Satmarer have a reason for opposing Zionism.

Neturei Karta on the other hand, are full blown morons in denial. Anti-Zionism is one thing (at times I can be considered as such), but they're idiots if they believe what they believe. And they do. Thus, they're idiots. They're also incredibly wrong, based on facts, based on evidence, based on events that have transpired.

so you reckon its ok to divide Yerushalaim? I think Rabbi Ovadia once said it was ok to trade land, wheres obviously alot of others disagreed.
#286 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] I wonder, how do you contend with the crazies of Neturei Karta (or Satmar , for instance) and such? whats your opinion of them?Darkman2007

Funny you should ask that. I actually volunteered that information in my initial post, but then I removed it because I was like "Okay this is getting to be like a prison share&care session. You just asked if I'm orthodox or reform."

Satmar. Well, Satmar Rebbe wrote (or rather quoted a Talmudic source) that since Moshiach would come when Jews had no sovereignty over them (foreign or otherwise), the existence of a Zionist government was actually hindering his coming. So while I don't subscribe to that belief, Satmarer have a reason for opposing Zionism.

Neturei Karta on the other hand, are full blown morons in denial. Anti-Zionism is one thing (at times I can be considered as such), but they're idiots if they believe what they believe. And they do. Thus, they're idiots. They're also incredibly wrong, based on facts, based on evidence, based on events that have transpired.

so you reckon its ok to divide Yerushalaim? I think Rabbi Ovadia once said it was ok to trade land, wheres obviously alot of others disagreed.

Absolutely not. I'm opposed to trading any part of Eretz Yisroel really, but even more so when it comes to Yerushalayim. Asking for Yerushalayim is like asking for Mecca or the Vatican City.

#287 Posted by toast_burner (21456 posts) -

This is definitely sad, however the BBC is a known anti-israeli news source, they have a heavy bias against it. Ironic how they don't mention the many Jewish children who are now dead due to Hamas and Hezbollah firing rockets at schools and playgrounds.

ShadowMoses900

Which is odd since Nick Griffin told me that the BBC is run by Jews.

Who do I trust the crazy jewish nationalist or the crazy British nationalist? I'm so torn right now.

#288 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

This is definitely sad, however the BBC is a known anti-israeli news source, they have a heavy bias against it. Ironic how they don't mention the many Jewish children who are now dead due to Hamas and Hezbollah firing rockets at schools and playgrounds.

toast_burner

Which is odd since Nick Griffin told me that the BBC is run by Jews.

Who do I trust the crazy jewish nationalist or the crazy British nationalist?

Seeing as Jews are not synonymous with Zionists, it could be both.

It could still be anti-Israeli despite being run by Jews.

#289 Posted by toast_burner (21456 posts) -

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

This is definitely sad, however the BBC is a known anti-israeli news source, they have a heavy bias against it. Ironic how they don't mention the many Jewish children who are now dead due to Hamas and Hezbollah firing rockets at schools and playgrounds.

th3warr1or

Which is odd since Nick Griffin told me that the BBC is run by Jews.

Who do I trust the crazy jewish nationalist or the crazy British nationalist?

Seeing as Jews are not synonymous with Zionists, it could be both.

It could still be anti-Israeli despite being run by Jews.

This is Nick Griffin we're talking about. Of course they're synonymous.

#290 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

Funny you should ask that. I actually volunteered that information in my initial post, but then I removed it because I was like "Okay this is getting to be like a prison share&care session. You just asked if I'm orthodox or reform."

Satmar. Well, Satmar Rebbe wrote (or rather quoted a Talmudic source) that since Moshiach would come when Jews had no sovereignty over them (foreign or otherwise), the existence of a Zionist government was actually hindering his coming. So while I don't subscribe to that belief, Satmarer have a reason for opposing Zionism.

Neturei Karta on the other hand, are full blown morons in denial. Anti-Zionism is one thing (at times I can be considered as such), but they're idiots if they believe what they believe. And they do. Thus, they're idiots. They're also incredibly wrong, based on facts, based on evidence, based on events that have transpired.

th3warr1or

so you reckon its ok to divide Yerushalaim? I think Rabbi Ovadia once said it was ok to trade land, wheres obviously alot of others disagreed.

Absolutely not. I'm opposed to trading any of Eretz Yisroel really, but even more so when it comes to Yerushalayim. Asking for Yerushalayim is like asking for Mecca or the Vatican City.

yeshar koach . I have a feeling that you would have supported one of the Charedi parties, had you been in Israel, or maybe Bayit Yehudi
#291 Posted by HoolaHoopMan (7745 posts) -
I'm at the point where I just don't care anymore. Both sides are rotten and refuse to admit any wrong doing on their part.
#292 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

This is definitely sad, however the BBC is a known anti-israeli news source, they have a heavy bias against it. Ironic how they don't mention the many Jewish children who are now dead due to Hamas and Hezbollah firing rockets at schools and playgrounds.

th3warr1or

Which is odd since Nick Griffin told me that the BBC is run by Jews.

Who do I trust the crazy jewish nationalist or the crazy British nationalist?

Seeing as Jews are not synonymous with Zionists, it could be both.

It could still be anti-Israeli despite being run by Jews.

lets be honest though , there are examples of people who take a hitler speech , replace the word Jew , with Zionist, and think its somehow politically correct. one has to be clever with this.
#293 Posted by th3warr1or (20640 posts) -

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Which is odd since Nick Griffin told me that the BBC is run by Jews.

Who do I trust the crazy jewish nationalist or the crazy British nationalist?

Darkman2007

Seeing as Jews are not synonymous with Zionists, it could be both.

It could still be anti-Israeli despite being run by Jews.

lets be honest though , there are examples of people who take a hitler speech , replace the word Jew , with Zionist, and think its somehow politically correct. one has to be clever with this.

They can't be all that clever if they need to quote a Hitler speech.

Not just because they're quoting Hitler but because they're quoting someone who ultimately failed in his goal. Quite miserably too, since his goal was to eliminate "the Jew," and if the word of anti-semites around the world is to be trusted, we still run the world. :lol:

Seriously. If you want to have a role model at least have a role model who succeeds, not fails in his goal and then takes his own life.

#294 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

Seeing as Jews are not synonymous with Zionists, it could be both.

It could still be anti-Israeli despite being run by Jews.

th3warr1or

lets be honest though , there are examples of people who take a hitler speech , replace the word Jew , with Zionist, and think its somehow politically correct. one has to be clever with this.

They can't be all that clever if they need to quote a Hitler speech.

Not just because they're quoting Hitler but because they're quoting someone who ultimately failed in his goal. Quite miserably too, since his goal was to eliminate "the Jew," and if the word of anti-semites around the world is to be trusted, we still run the world. :lol:

Seriously. If you want to have a role model at least have a role model who succeeds, not fails in his goal and then takes his own life.

well , I was using that as an exaggeration somewhat, but you know what I mean,
#295 Posted by PWSteal_Ldpinch (1208 posts) -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0wJXf2nt4Y

Hamas MP Fathi Hammad says that for the Palestinian people, death has become an industry (hah what a loser), and women, children, and the elderly are used as human shields because they "desire death like [Israel] desires life". No wonder Palestinian life is so cheap. They practially give it away!

#296 Posted by l4dak47 (6838 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] That followed quickly by an international guardianship over Gaza strip sounds like one. Also, was about time this topic gets some pie-junior :Pcoolbeans90

good luck finding any international army willing to police it.

MURICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fixed.
#297 Posted by Darkman2007 (17929 posts) -

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] That followed quickly by an international guardianship over Gaza strip sounds like one. Also, was about time this topic gets some pie-junior :Pcoolbeans90

good luck finding any international army willing to police it.

AMERICA

honestly I think the US has plenty of its own problems, its not too willing to start policing places like Gaza. could be wrong, but I have a feeling it would never happen.
#298 Posted by Ace6301 (21389 posts) -
Unfortunate that people still see fit to blow innocents up, regardless of what "side" they're on, over all this. It's also unfortunate to see people laying blame on people who aren't involved in anyway because of things their ancestors countrymen maybe did far before their life time. Maybe one day people will grow up and stop this petty squabble. As for the telegraph link I don't think it's fair to latch on to it as the sole source of truth given it's older than the other news articles which make different claims.
#299 Posted by SUD123456 (4417 posts) -

I'm at the point where I just don't care anymore. Both sides are rotten and refuse to admit any wrong doing on their part. HoolaHoopMan

Pretty much the problem in a nutshell.