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#1 Xgamer82
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NEW YORK - The charisma king of the 2008 presidential field. The world's best golfer. The captain of the New York Yankees. Besides superstardom, Barack Obama, Tiger Woods and Derek Jeter have another common bond: Each is the child of an interracial mariage.

For most of U.S. history, in most communities, such unions were taboo.

 

read complete article at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18090277/  

 

 

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#2 nickmag
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why you quoted that and not the most important bit in the article I'll never know: "More than 7 percent of 59 million unions are between races" which is a good thing
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#3 jacintos09
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makes me happy. when i think about the fact that it used to be ILLEGAL to marry someone just because they have different pigments than you, it makes me sick
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This is amazing, why it only took us 40 years ...

Its really sad that people there are still people in this world against marrying outside of their own race.  Almost as if other races are inferior or something (which no one is better than the other).

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why you quoted that and not the most important bit in the article I'll never know: "More than 7 percent of 59 million unions are between races" which is a good thingnickmag

I fail to see why the color of a person's skin factors into their marriage being a "good thing"....... but to each his own

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#6 -Karayan-
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Yay?
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#7 nickmag
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[QUOTE="nickmag"]why you quoted that and not the most important bit in the article I'll never know: "More than 7 percent of 59 million unions are between races" which is a good thingSIapshot

I fail to see why the color of a person's skin factors into their marriage being a "good thing"....... but to each his own

it's a good thing that people have free choice and that people can marry whoever they want without fear of prejudice anymore
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#8 dremorius20
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ok thanks for the info.
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I thought the charisma they had in common would be that if they formed a super-child together, it would totally own. That would be one totally sexy, athletic, brilliant child.
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great?
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#11 soulless4now
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Yay! Go mixed people!
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#12 videogamer456
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"]

[QUOTE="nickmag"]why you quoted that and not the most important bit in the article I'll never know: "More than 7 percent of 59 million unions are between races" which is a good thingnickmag

I fail to see why the color of a person's skin factors into their marriage being a "good thing"....... but to each his own

it's a good thing that people have free choice and that people can marry whoever they want without fear of prejudice anymore

It is a good thing that progress has been made since the Civil Rights Era and de-segregation of public areas, but unfortunately recently we have been taking a step back with what has been going on in the news.
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It is a good thing that progress has been made since the Civil Rights Era and de-segregation of public areas, but unfortunately recently we have been taking a step back with what has been going on in the news.videogamer456
I suppose it's like taking two steps forward and one step back, it's a shame we can't learn from past mistakes and so on
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#14 lagosboy
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More mixed races = more beautiful children.
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#15 SIapshot
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This is amazing, why it only took us 40 years ...

Its really sad that people there are still people in this world against marrying outside of their own race.  Almost as if other races are inferior or something (which no one is better than the other).

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It's not that other ethnicities are inferior, people want their ethnic customs to be carried on to the next generation. This is true of Japanese culture, Irish culture, African culture, Jewish culture, Italian culture, etc.

There isn't one single ethnicity where the majority of marriages are interracial, the majority of marriages within a specific culture are usually to another of the same ethnic background. If you think that it's good for people to marry outside their culture and raise children of mixed cultural background, just consider the loss of cultural identity.

I think that cultural variety is a good thing, but by blending everybody together we are losing that variety.

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do they accept Gay marrage already ?

some americans make alot of stupid things look like big problems

Europe, the real continent for world wars and civilisation 8)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It seems like black men and white women is starting to become acceptable, but not vice versa.
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It seems like black men and white women is starting to become acceptable, but not vice versa.MarkSmith
Yeah why? My girl is haitian and I am white...
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#19 SIapshot
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"]

[QUOTE="nickmag"]why you quoted that and not the most important bit in the article I'll never know: "More than 7 percent of 59 million unions are between races" which is a good thingnickmag

I fail to see why the color of a person's skin factors into their marriage being a "good thing"....... but to each his own

it's a good thing that people have free choice and that people can marry whoever they want without fear of prejudice anymore

Agreed, but why is 7% a good thing? Would 5 be better? or 50%? Freedom is great, but why do you feel that increasing interracial marriage is a good thing? If everybody married whoever they wanted and the percentage was 0, would that still be a good thing?

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Blacker the berry sweeter the juice ;). :D
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[QUOTE="LiquidZ08"]

This is amazing, why it only took us 40 years ...

Its really sad that people there are still people in this world against marrying outside of their own race. Almost as if other races are inferior or something (which no one is better than the other).

SIapshot

*sigh* I'm going to be busy in this one....

It's not that other ethnicities are inferior, people want their ethnic customs to be carried on to the next generation. This is true of Japanese culture, Irish culture, African culture, Jewish culture, Italian culture, etc.

There isn't one single ethnicity where the majority of marriages are interracial, the majority of marriages within a specific culture are usually to another of the same ethnic background. If you think that it's good for people to marry outside their culture and raise children of mixed cultural background, just consider the loss of cultural identity.

I think that cultural variety is a good thing, but by blending everybody together we are losing that variety.

The relationship between culture and mixed race is flimsy at best, your conjecturing, show us some proof. I guess it could just be another taste people have but I don't think they have valid cause for their concerns.

On an siede if people want to stay in their own ethinicity then I don't see the problem, it's just a taste, but condeming it for other people is one step too far IMO.

Though I have to agree with the points you made in the lower post about it being hard to seperate out what people want with the actual marriage rate, for all we know this could be 100% of interacial relationships being followed through, how you interpret the information is actually quite open.

 

 

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[QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

[QUOTE="nickmag"]why you quoted that and not the most important bit in the article I'll never know: "More than 7 percent of 59 million unions are between races" which is a good thingSIapshot

I fail to see why the color of a person's skin factors into their marriage being a "good thing"....... but to each his own

it's a good thing that people have free choice and that people can marry whoever they want without fear of prejudice anymore

Agreed, but why is 7% a good thing? Would 5 be better? or 50%? Freedom is great, but why do you feel that increasing interracial marriage is a good thing? If everybody married whoever they wanted and the percentage was 0, would that still be a good thing?

In our lifetime it will probably increase to somewhere around that number. And when we get roughly to our current parent's age, we will be fighting over other issues like marriage between gay couples of different color.
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#23 Versus_XIII
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Sorry but my great grandparents got  a head start in this in 1900 and my grandparents in 1939.  :lol:

It's good to know that but my family is too mixed even before coming to America.  

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#24 majadamus
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Mixed races are a great thing. They are beauiful people with their own unique look.
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="LiquidZ08"]

This is amazing, why it only took us 40 years ...

Its really sad that people there are still people in this world against marrying outside of their own race. Almost as if other races are inferior or something (which no one is better than the other).

Articuno76

*sigh* I'm going to be busy in this one....

It's not that other ethnicities are inferior, people want their ethnic customs to be carried on to the next generation. This is true of Japanese culture, Irish culture, African culture, Jewish culture, Italian culture, etc.

There isn't one single ethnicity where the majority of marriages are interracial, the majority of marriages within a specific culture are usually to another of the same ethnic background. If you think that it's good for people to marry outside their culture and raise children of mixed cultural background, just consider the loss of cultural identity.

I think that cultural variety is a good thing, but by blending everybody together we are losing that variety.

The relationship between culture and mixed race is flimsy at best, your conjecturing, show us some proof. I guess it could just be another taste people have but I don't think they have valid cause for their concerns.

On an siede if people want to stay in their own ethinicity then I don't see the problem, it's just a taste, but condeming it for other people is one step too far IMO.

Though I have to agree with the points you made in the lower post about it being hard to seperate out what people want with the actual marriage rate, for all we know this could be 100% of interacial relationships being followed through, how you interpret the information is actually quite open.

There is no conjecture here, the statistics speak for themselves. Intercultural and interracial marriages constitute the minority of unions in all homogenous cultures. Most people would tend to accept that this is the result of preference. (and hence the continuation of said cultures)

I have yet to see a post in this thread condemning interracial marriage.

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yeah don'tsay anything you could regret later...
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[QUOTE="OBLOK"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]dremorius20
yeah don'tsay anything you could regret later...

You have no idea what i said so don't try and cross me as a racist or anything like that you prick =/

I was gonna tell a story about my brother but decided after that OT isn't a good place to tell family stories, so f u. 

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There is no conjecture here, the statistics speak for themselves. Intercultural and interracial marriages constitute the minority of unions in all homogenous cultures. Most people would tend to accept that this is the result of preference. (and hence the continuation of said cultures)SIapshot

Can you prove this is anything beyond coincidence? Or am I reading too much into this in assuming that you meant people "conciously" use same ethiniticity relationships to preserve a cultural idenity? Right now your making a pretty big assumption that ethnicity is tied to the preservation of culture (if it were the case then if the rate of interaccial marriages was quite slow it wouldn't really effect the culture all that much so far as I can see).

 

 

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[QUOTE="dremorius20"][QUOTE="OBLOK"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]OBLOK

yeah don'tsay anything you could regret later...

You have no idea what i said so don't try and cross me as a racist or anything like that you prick =/

I was gonna tell a story about my brother but decided after that OT isn't a good place to tell family stories, so f u. 

Yeah, your brother's gf too is haitian and he is white?
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[QUOTE="OBLOK"]

[QUOTE="dremorius20"][QUOTE="OBLOK"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]dremorius20

yeah don'tsay anything you could regret later...

You have no idea what i said so don't try and cross me as a racist or anything like that you prick =/

I was gonna tell a story about my brother but decided after that OT isn't a good place to tell family stories, so f u.

Yeah, your brother's gf too is haitian and he is white?

What? wanna cuss me? i can cuss to. Make sure you choose your words properly before though.
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[QUOTE="dremorius20"][QUOTE="OBLOK"]

[QUOTE="dremorius20"][QUOTE="OBLOK"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]OBLOK

yeah don'tsay anything you could regret later...

You have no idea what i said so don't try and cross me as a racist or anything like that you prick =/

I was gonna tell a story about my brother but decided after that OT isn't a good place to tell family stories, so f u.

Yeah, your brother's gf too is haitian and he is white?

What? wanna cuss me? i can cuss to. Make sure you choose your words properly before though.

Hold on you pretty horses would you? I was only asking if you were gonna talk about white/black marriage and union since my gf is balck and I am white. So by reading, I saw you deleted your post and Then warned you to not say anuthing racist. SInce it doesn't seems so, My most sincere apologies.
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#33 dremorius20
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Still up for a fight?
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This is amazing, why it only took us 40 years ...

Its really sad that people there are still people in this world against marrying outside of their own race. Almost as if other races are inferior or something (which no one is better than the other).

LiquidZ08

Pretty Much

 

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#35 organic_machine
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My aunt is white and my uncle is black. Their Next door neighbors have moved away before because they do not support them. People arent as tolerant as you think.
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#36 OBLOK
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Still up for a fight?dremorius20
No, judging by your sig and ava decided that i don't really wanna mess with people as young as you.
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[QUOTE="SIapshot"]

There is no conjecture here, the statistics speak for themselves. Intercultural and interracial marriages constitute the minority of unions in all homogenous cultures. Most people would tend to accept that this is the result of preference. (and hence the continuation of said cultures)Articuno76

Can you prove this is anything beyond coincidence? Or am I reading too much into this in assuming that you meant people "conciously" use same ethiniticity relationships to preserve a cultural idenity? Right now your making a pretty big assumption that ethnicity is tied to the preservation of culture (if it were the case then if the rate of interaccial marriages was quite slow it wouldn't really effect the culture all that much so far as I can see).

It's probably subconscious in most cases, but in nations where different cultures interact with each other on a daily basis you'd have a pretty high rate of interracial marriages if you give any credit to coincidence. Let's say that for every 10 people you meet on the street, 5 of them are of another race. If it was purely coincidence at work here, you'd have a very high interracial marriage rate. Even in America, where we pride ourselves on our huge variety of cultures, the interracial marriage rate is far lower that actual per-capita demographics.

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[QUOTE="dremorius20"]Still up for a fight?OBLOK
No, judging by your sig and ava decided that i don't really wanna mess with people as young as you.

As young? And how much older than I am Do you think you are? I am 21 in less than a week. And I see nothing wrong with an avatar and a sig of some great cartoons that were on TV back when I was a kid.
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#39 OBLOK
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[QUOTE="OBLOK"][QUOTE="dremorius20"]Still up for a fight?dremorius20
No, judging by your sig and ava decided that i don't really wanna mess with people as young as you.

As young? And how much older than I am Do you think you are? I am 21 in less than a week. And I see nothing wrong with an avatar and a sig of some great cartoons that were on TV back when I was a kid.

Oh yeh i shoulda figured that, silly me. I shoulda figured that you liked that sorta stuff seeing as you have 3 naked kids in your blog but each to his own i guess.
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[QUOTE="Articuno76"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

There is no conjecture here, the statistics speak for themselves. Intercultural and interracial marriages constitute the minority of unions in all homogenous cultures. Most people would tend to accept that this is the result of preference. (and hence the continuation of said cultures)SIapshot

Can you prove this is anything beyond coincidence? Or am I reading too much into this in assuming that you meant people "conciously" use same ethiniticity relationships to preserve a cultural idenity? Right now your making a pretty big assumption that ethnicity is tied to the preservation of culture (if it were the case then if the rate of interaccial marriages was quite slow it wouldn't really effect the culture all that much so far as I can see).

It's probably subconscious in most cases, but in nations where different cultures interact with each other on a daily basis you'd have a pretty high rate of interracial marriages if you give any credit to coincidence. Let's say that for every 10 people you meet on the street, 5 of them are of another race. If it was purely coincidence at work here, you'd have a very high interracial marriage rate. Even in America, where we pride ourselves on our huge variety of cultures, the interracial marriage rate is far lower that actual per-capita demographics.

Ok, so we can rule out coincidence, but neither does that rule out that the idea of cultural identityis directing things here (even subconciously),  what about other extraneous factors, like media? We don't see all that much interacial relationships going on there.

 

 

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[QUOTE="dremorius20"][QUOTE="OBLOK"][QUOTE="dremorius20"]Still up for a fight?OBLOK
No, judging by your sig and ava decided that i don't really wanna mess with people as young as you.

As young? And how much older than I am Do you think you are? I am 21 in less than a week. And I see nothing wrong with an avatar and a sig of some great cartoons that were on TV back when I was a kid.

Oh yeh i shoulda figured that, silly me. I shoulda figured that you liked that sorta stuff seeing as you have 3 naked kids in your blog but each to his own i guess.

Cut it out, this is going beyond the scope of this topic.

 

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[QUOTE="OBLOK"][QUOTE="dremorius20"][QUOTE="OBLOK"][QUOTE="dremorius20"]Still up for a fight?Articuno76

No, judging by your sig and ava decided that i don't really wanna mess with people as young as you.

As young? And how much older than I am Do you think you are? I am 21 in less than a week. And I see nothing wrong with an avatar and a sig of some great cartoons that were on TV back when I was a kid.

Oh yeh i shoulda figured that, silly me. I shoulda figured that you liked that sorta stuff seeing as you have 3 naked kids in your blog but each to his own i guess.

Cut it out, this is going beyond the scope of this topic.

 

He doesn't like funny pics
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This is sick, but it's other people choice and I repect that, doesn't mean I agree with it though.
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#44 dremorius20
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This is sick, but it's other people choice and I repect that, doesn't mean I agree with it though.Kev_Boy
Don't agree with what? Racism? or interrcial marriage?
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#45 OBLOK
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[QUOTE="Articuno76"]

[QUOTE="OBLOK"][QUOTE="dremorius20"][QUOTE="OBLOK"][QUOTE="dremorius20"]Still up for a fight?dremorius20

No, judging by your sig and ava decided that i don't really wanna mess with people as young as you.

As young? And how much older than I am Do you think you are? I am 21 in less than a week. And I see nothing wrong with an avatar and a sig of some great cartoons that were on TV back when I was a kid.

Oh yeh i shoulda figured that, silly me. I shoulda figured that you liked that sorta stuff seeing as you have 3 naked kids in your blog but each to his own i guess.

Cut it out, this is going beyond the scope of this topic.

 

He doesn't like funny pics

Well that ended quick, i'm disapointed in you =/

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#46 Kev_Boy
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#47 deactivated-58e533ed44b01
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well i hope im in one soon, cuz i love white girls...lol
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#48 OBLOK
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:| 
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#49 dremorius20
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ok thanks
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#50 dremorius20
Member since 2004 • 5743 Posts
sorry to have disappointed you.