Rate my legendary Pokemon

I wanted to know if you can rate my Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina A, and Giratina O. I will list their moves, stats, and items. I would also like it if you rate them all seperatly.

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MEWTWO

Moves: Flamethrower, thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Psychic

HP: 351, Att: 229, Def: 207, Sp A: 413, Sp D: 194, Spe: 329

Item: Choice Specs

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LUGIA

Moves: Ice Beam, Psychic, Reflect, Light Screen

HP: 373, Att: 176, Def: 317, Sp A: 256, Sp D: 345, Spe: 265

Item: Light Clay

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HO-OH

Moves: Earthquake, Sacred Fire, Flamethrower, Fly

HP: 378, Att: 327, Def: 210, Sp A: 274, Sp D: 351, Spe: 175

Item: Life Orb

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KYOGRE

Moves: Water Spout, Thunder, Surf, Ice Beam

HP: 344, Att: 211, Def: 241, Sp A: 381, Sp D: 330, Spe: 219

Item: Choice Specs

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GROUDON

Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Dragon Claw, Fire Punch

HP: 353, Att: 397, Def: 340, Sp A: 214, Sp D: 228, Spe: 228

Item: Choice Band

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RAYQUAZA

Moves: Outrage, Earthquake, Ice Beam, Dragon Pulse

HP: 351, Att: 375, Def: 230, Sp A: 352, Sp D: 212, Spe: 189

Item: Life Orb

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DIALGA

Moves: Roar of Time, Aura Sphere, Earth Power, Flash Cannon

HP: 360, Att: 220, Def: 279, Sp A: 378, Sp D: 244, Spe: 211

Item: Adamant Orb

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PALKIA

Moves: Spacial Rend, Surf, Aura Sphere, Earth Power

HP: 336, Att: 244, Def: 257, Sp A: 366, Sp D: 295, Spe: 230

Item: Lustrous Orb

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GIRATINA A

Moves: Shadow Force, Earthquake, Aura Sphere, Dragon Claw

HP: 446, Att: 245, Def: 300, Sp A: 245, Sp D: 282, Spe: 204

Item: Leftovers

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GIRATINA O

Moves: same as Giratina A

HP: 478, Att: 369, Def: 235, Sp A: 275, Sp D: 218, Spe: 194

Item: Griseous Orb

Well, what do you think?

Nothing I havent seen before TBH, dozens of other rate threads in the past could rival your IMO.

Still great.

Nothing I havent seen before TBH, dozens of other rate threads in the past could rival your IMO.

Still great.

-Oath

Could you rate all of my Pokemon on a scale from 1 to 10.

meh, if it werent for the fact that legendaries werent theeasiest way to build up a strong team I might be a tiny bit impressed.

but since you used legendaries then nah nothin special.

meh, if it werent for the fact that legendaries werent theeasiest way to build up a strong team I might be a tiny bit impressed.

but since you used legendaries then nah nothin special.

dragonfly110

I never said they were for a team, I dont use them in teams. When did I say I use them in teams?

I just wanted to know how good they were by stats, moves, and items.

MEWTWO 8/10

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LUGIA 7/10

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HO-OH 9/10

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KYOGRE 8/10

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GROUDON 7/10

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RAYQUAZA 9.5/10

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DIALGA 9/10

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PALKIA 8/10

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GIRATINA A 9/10

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GIRATINA O 9/10

sman3579

[QUOTE="sman3579"]

MEWTWO 8/10

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LUGIA 7/10

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HO-OH 9/10

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KYOGRE 8/10

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GROUDON 7/10

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RAYQUAZA 9.5/10

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DIALGA 9/10

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PALKIA 8/10

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GIRATINA A 9/10

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GIRATINA O 9/10

-Oath

Thanks, I would like to know why my Groudon and Lugia got a 7. I have a pretty good idea why Lugia got a 7 but I dont really have an idea why Groudon got a 7.

I guess I could rate each 8. About all my friends little cousins have all those. Still great though.x_XCoolioX_x

As long as they are an 8 or above Im happy.

wow tht was fast u must check these things every second. cool. nice legends 2x_XCoolioX_x

I check around every 2 minutes. I do this with all topics I make.

10/10 for all of them! :D

10/10 for all of them! :D

game-ster23

Really? I dont believe you :P

I couldve SWORN I read rock smash as one of Groundons moves, apparently thats not the case, Im losing it :P. Ill give him a 9.

I couldve SWORN I read rock smash as one of Groundons moves, apparently thats not the case, Im losing it :P. Ill give him a 9.

-Oath

OK that makes me fell better.

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

I couldve SWORN I read rock smash as one of Groundons moves, apparently thats not the case, Im losing it :P. Ill give him a 9.

sman3579

OK that makes me fell better.

And lugia lacks ancient power, which IMO he should have, but thats personal preference, dont count his score I guess.

Great job :)

[QUOTE="game-ster23"]

10/10 for all of them! :D

sman3579

Really? I dont believe you :P

10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! :P lol Great job! :D

[QUOTE="sman3579"]

[QUOTE="game-ster23"]

10/10 for all of them! :D

game-ster23

Really? I dont believe you :P

10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! :P lol Great job! :D

Well if you are serious than thanks.

[QUOTE="sman3579"]

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

I couldve SWORN I read rock smash as one of Groundons moves, apparently thats not the case, Im losing it :P. Ill give him a 9.

-Oath

OK that makes me fell better.

And lugia lacks ancient power, which IMO he should have, but thats personal preference, dont count his score I guess.

I see.

Awesome they all deserve 9/10!!!! yay! ha ha lol, great team!

they're all fine (about 8-10) except for ho-oh, which is like 6 or something.

I don't even know the last two.

I don't really play Pokemon anymore but I have two questions for you:

Why does Kyogre have Thunder? Without a Rainy Day skill wouldn't that miss an awful lot?

I think Thunderbolt would be waaaay better. Plus, it's not much weaker.

I'd much prefer having EV spreads and natures, than raw numbers. With EV spreads I don't have to go and check on how different it is from the maximums. (-1) Use of fly doesn't ever work -1 Though slightly more likely to work, Shadow force is pretty bad too. -1 Use of Roar of Time is very conditional -1 Ray appears to have a hacked speed value, he needs higher speed even if that number was possible (seems below ray's lowest possible speed) -1 Psychic STAB moves should be dropped for Ubers play -1 No or minimal synergy between team mates -1 Altered form Giratina's meant to be a wall -1 Ray's moveset needs to be improved since you have 3 attack to cover 1 threat of ubers. -1 I think you get the idea. Nothing makes this any better than the thousands of uber abusers on PBR Wi-Fi, which are almost always taken down by OU, or even NU teams. The "team" has more than 6 members, and the only support between them is Groudon powering up Mewtwo's and Ho-oh's Fire moves, Kyogre powering up Palkia's water moves, and Lugia setting up Dual screen. They barely work as indivduals, and completely crumble as a team.Hegna1

Why the hell does everyone think that Im going to make a team with them.

I just want to see how they do individually/ on there own agains other Pokemon, and how there stats are compaired to other Pokemon of there species. Like how my Mewtwo is compaired to others.

I also get the felling you take your Pokemon gamesvery seriously and tried to find every excuse to deduct points.Almost everyoneelse gave my Pokemon around an 8, so you either dont know what you are talking about or play so much you know everything about Pokemon. I doubt that many people would be wrong.

I also felt my Pokemon are pretty good since I made this in about 5-10 minutes.

P.S. my Kyogre and Groudon's moves and items I got from a website which is supposed to be really good/ professionalso if you think they are bad then you are disagreeing with people who wasted there life to this game. (No offence to them).

I don't even know the last two.

I don't really play Pokemon anymore but I have two questions for you:

Why does Kyogre have Thunder? Without a Rainy Day skill wouldn't that miss an awful lot?

I think Thunderbolt would be waaaay better. Plus, it's not much weaker.

darksongbird

It has Drizzle which makes it rain so it has a 100% hit rate.

your groudon needs new moves, keep dragon claw. 3/10. u got rid of eruption!?

your groudon needs new moves, keep dragon claw. 3/10. u got rid of eruption!?

theunforgiven12

Well his best stat is Attack and most Ubers have low Defense so I think it is better I have the moves I gave Groudon. I also got it from some "professional" website.

My Rayquaza's speed is actually something he can get without being hacked.

[QUOTE="Hegna1"]I'd much prefer having EV spreads and natures, than raw numbers. With EV spreads I don't have to go and check on how different it is from the maximums. (-1) Use of fly doesn't ever work -1 Though slightly more likely to work, Shadow force is pretty bad too. -1 Use of Roar of Time is very conditional -1 Ray appears to have a hacked speed value, he needs higher speed even if that number was possible (seems below ray's lowest possible speed) -1 Psychic STAB moves should be dropped for Ubers play -1 No or minimal synergy between team mates -1 Altered form Giratina's meant to be a wall -1 Ray's moveset needs to be improved since you have 3 attack to cover 1 threat of ubers. -1 I think you get the idea. Nothing makes this any better than the thousands of uber abusers on PBR Wi-Fi, which are almost always taken down by OU, or even NU teams. The "team" has more than 6 members, and the only support between them is Groudon powering up Mewtwo's and Ho-oh's Fire moves, Kyogre powering up Palkia's water moves, and Lugia setting up Dual screen. They barely work as indivduals, and completely crumble as a team.sman3579

Why the hell does everyone think that Im going to make a team with them.

I just want to see how they do individually/ on there own agains other Pokemon, and how there stats are compaired to other Pokemon of there species. Like how my Mewtwo is compaired to others.

I also get the felling you take your Pokemon gamesvery seriously and tried to find every excuse to deduct points.Almost everyoneelse gave my Pokemon around an 8, so you either dont know what you are talking about or play so much you know everything about Pokemon. I doubt that many people would be wrong.

I also felt my Pokemon are pretty good since I made this in about 5-10 minutes.

P.S. my Kyogre and Groudon's moves and items I got from a website which is supposed to be really good/ professionalso if you think they are bad then you are disagreeing with people who wasted there life to this game. (No offence to them).

Rating pokemon individually is garbage.

The most important part of team making is synergy between members. If the members can't work together the team falls to the dogs.

Rating individual pokemon does nothing as you can always say "oh, that gliscor has a gyarados problem" since frankly everything has a counter. You need a team for proper rating.

Either way only about half of them seem to be reasonable by themselves, and ray still has a lower speed stat then something that should be possible, showing bad hacks.

If you want a proper rating you want someone who is nitpicky. Without it you end up with people who will give you a perfect rating no matter what.

The groudon and kyogre have good sets(which I know are from smogon, it's kind of obvious compared to how awful your mewtwo would do in an Ubers metagame(where hint: PSYCHIC hits NOTHING for super effective damage, and is resisted by most)), but your stats (EV spreads) are too low, showing either bad natures, or a lack of EV training, which is essential.

If you're going to flame people who can rate properly and know what they're doing, go ahead, but don't expect proper help.

I'm tired of people flaming the only people who can rate pokemon properly on these boards. An individual Pokemon means NOTHING without the support of its team mates.

[QUOTE="sman3579"]

[QUOTE="Hegna1"]I'd much prefer having EV spreads and natures, than raw numbers. With EV spreads I don't have to go and check on how different it is from the maximums. (-1) Use of fly doesn't ever work -1 Though slightly more likely to work, Shadow force is pretty bad too. -1 Use of Roar of Time is very conditional -1 Ray appears to have a hacked speed value, he needs higher speed even if that number was possible (seems below ray's lowest possible speed) -1 Psychic STAB moves should be dropped for Ubers play -1 No or minimal synergy between team mates -1 Altered form Giratina's meant to be a wall -1 Ray's moveset needs to be improved since you have 3 attack to cover 1 threat of ubers. -1 I think you get the idea. Nothing makes this any better than the thousands of uber abusers on PBR Wi-Fi, which are almost always taken down by OU, or even NU teams. The "team" has more than 6 members, and the only support between them is Groudon powering up Mewtwo's and Ho-oh's Fire moves, Kyogre powering up Palkia's water moves, and Lugia setting up Dual screen. They barely work as indivduals, and completely crumble as a team.Hegna1

Why the hell does everyone think that Im going to make a team with them.

I just want to see how they do individually/ on there own agains other Pokemon, and how there stats are compaired to other Pokemon of there species. Like how my Mewtwo is compaired to others.

I also get the felling you take your Pokemon gamesvery seriously and tried to find every excuse to deduct points.Almost everyoneelse gave my Pokemon around an 8, so you either dont know what you are talking about or play so much you know everything about Pokemon. I doubt that many people would be wrong.

I also felt my Pokemon are pretty good since I made this in about 5-10 minutes.

P.S. my Kyogre and Groudon's moves and items I got from a website which is supposed to be really good/ professionalso if you think they are bad then you are disagreeing with people who wasted there life to this game. (No offence to them).

Rating pokemon individually is garbage.

The most important part of team making is synergy between members. If the members can't work together the team falls to the dogs.

Rating individual pokemon does nothing as you can always say "oh, that gliscor has a gyarados problem" since frankly everything has a counter. You need a team for proper rating.

Either way only about half of them seem to be reasonable by themselves, and ray still has a lower speed stat then something that should be possible, showing bad hacks.

If you want a proper rating you want someone who is nitpicky. Without it you end up with people who will give you a perfect rating no matter what.

The groudon and kyogre have good sets(which I know are from smogon, it's kind of obvious compared to how awful your mewtwo would do in an Ubers metagame(where hint: PSYCHIC hits NOTHING for super effective damage, and is resisted by most)), but your stats (EV spreads) are too low, showing either bad natures, or a lack of EV training, which is essential.

If you're going to flame people who can rate properly and know what they're doing, go ahead, but don't expect proper help.

I'm tired of people flaming the only people who can rate pokemon properly on these boards. An individual Pokemon meansnothing without the support of its team mates.

Sorry, it was just I was in a bad mood when I first got on the website and your comment got me mad, which it shouldnt have, but it did.

Anyways I felt me giving items to some Pokemon help in some ways. Like Mewtwo having Psychic, with his already high SP A and him getting a boost from Choice Specs and he is the same type it wouldnt matter.

As for EV's I raised 5 of each of my Pokemons stats by 25 intending to balance their stats rather then highly increasing 2.

I also just found it wierd how everyone else gave my Pokemon higher scores.