Project H..A.M.M.E.R. could benefit from WM+

As a regular Wii game, Project H.A.M.M.E.R. could never have been that good control wise. All it would have been was sloppy input of left, right, up, and down motions with some slight delay.

With WM+ in the picture it would not need that at all. Whatever direction and angle the hammer is, you can swing it. Instead of a three or four animations for swinging, you would have a 360 degree range of swinging and the physics directions to match. If you it an enemy at an upward angle then he should be flying upwards. And despite most beat-em-ups ever made they could have a proper blocking system that relies on your reflexes and skills.

Here is what we have seen of the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPhDqetz1k

Here is WM+ in living proof that it works well with similar gameplay:

http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/867131/red-steel-project-untitled-sequel/videos/tgs09sny_redsteel2_gmp_off.html

Misleading topic title...

Why?

Why?

thedude-

Bad punctuation. Specifically, the lack of a comma after "Nintendo".

Why?

thedude-

Change it to "Nintendo Needs to dust off Project Hammer, WM+ is here" lol anyway i agree. The game actually looks fun aswell as good. If im not mistaking there seems to be some bumpmapping on the ground aswell as other objects, and the lightmaps look great aswell. I cant believe i forgot about this game. what happened to it?

I don't think the game ever needed M+ imo. I think it needed a new art direction (a more mature theme) and it could've been Nintendo's God of War.

I see what you're saying, but the thing about M+ is that if you create a game that the player controls a weapon through motion, the camera is going to have to be fixed behind the character on screen, or in the first person mode like RS2.

RedSteel 2 works well because you don't have to animate the entire character, just his arm(s), weapons, and how they react while being used. If you give the player full control over how the character reacts on screen, there will be so many more animations, it would be insane. I don't think they would be willing to do so with a non-established franchise like Project HAMMER. Too risky imo.

Could you imagine playing an "over-the-shoulder" game like Resident Evil 4 and the character on screen had a huge sword (or in this case, a hammer) and the camera wasn't at least somewhat fixed? It would be a pain in the ass imo.

This is why Zelda Wii will have a fixed camera, and it will always be directly behind Link.

"Nintendo dust(s) off Project H.A.M.M.E.R."

Now I could see that as misleading.

Misleading topic title...

bob_newman

"Nintendo dust(s) off Project H.A.M.M.E.R."

Now I could see that as misleading.

thedude-

lol at the fact that nobody contributed anything to the topic, just got upset about the namegarrett_duffman

lol I DID!!!!

lol at the fact that nobody contributed anything to the topic, just got upset about the namegarrett_duffman

i did 2. dont forget about teh Painguy :P

wow I misread the Topic title. I thought Project H.A.M.M.E.R. was coming back for sure! now I'm just sad.

I didn't find topic misleading. Anyway I agree

What happened to it anyway? Was it cancelled or is it on hold.

Controls were not it's only problem. Gameplay sucked too.

I didn't find topic misleading.AmayaPapaya

[QUOTE="thedude-"]

"Nintendo dust(s) off Project H.A.M.M.E.R."

Now I could see that as misleading.

bob_newman

[QUOTE="bob_newman"][QUOTE="thedude-"]

"Nintendo dust(s) off Project H.A.M.M.E.R."

Now I could see that as misleading.

thedude-

it also does not make sense the way you interpreted it.thedude-

Yes it does.

"Nintendo dust off Project hammer"...

Now replace "Nintendo" with the proper plural and you get:

"They dust off Project hammer".

It makes perfect sense. Maybe you just don't get it...

[QUOTE="thedude-"]it also does not make sense the way you interpreted it.bob_newman

Yes it does.

"Nintendo dust off Project hammer"...

Now replace "Nintendo" with the proper plural and you get:

"They dust off Project hammer".

It makes perfect sense. Maybe you just don't get it...

Even if it was in the plural it would make more sense to say, "They dust(ed) off Project H.A.M.M.E.R."

Again I am sorry it was misleading because I see how it looks, but now you are misleading my whole thread.

Nintendo as a singular entity*thedude-

*In America.

This forum isn't just for the US. The whole world comes here. Don't you see my point?

And if you just accepted that it was misleading and moved on this thread wouldn't have gotten derailed, but instead you kept arguing.

.........

Fine, since I "mislead your whole thread" :roll:, I'll give my opinion.

Since day one I thought that game looked terrible. Not from a motion-control standpoint, but on the whole.

The gameplay looked uninspired and the artistic direction was bland. I would like to say that I was glad that they shelved it, but those resources went to Disaster, and we all know how that turned out.

I just wish they would've put that money to better use, because that team has nothing to show for themselves for the entirety of the Wii's lifecycle. Maybe it's for the best, I mean they are one of Nintendo's weaker dev teams.

It looked like a below-average game 4 years ago and it would look even worse now.

[QUOTE="thedude-"]Nintendo as a singular entity*bob_newman

*In America.

This forum isn't just for the US. The whole world comes here. Don't you see my point?

And if you just accepted that it was misleading and moved on this thread wouldn't have gotten derailed, but instead you kept arguing.

.........

Fine, since I "mislead your whole thread" :roll:, I'll give my opinion.

Since day one I thought that game looked terrible. Not from a motion-control standpoint, but on the whole.

The gameplay looked uninspired and the artistic direction was bland. I would like to say that I was glad that they shelved it, but those resources went to Disaster, and we all know how that turned out.

I just wish they would've put that money to better use, because that team has nothing to show for themselves for the entirety of the Wii's lifecycle. Maybe it's for the best, I mean they are one of Nintendo's weaker dev teams.

It looked like a below-average game 4 years ago and it would look even worse now.

If they shelved the game due to development difficulties, I wish a game with a similar concept would be made.thedude-

They shelved it because they wanted to put the resources (aka manpower) towards Disaster. They obviously didn't have much interest in project hammer once they saw what it was.

A beat em up at that speed of swinging is good for motion controls.thedude-

[QUOTE="thedude-"]If they shelved the game due to development difficulties, I wish a game with a similar concept would be made.bob_newman

They shelved it because they wanted to put the resources (aka manpower) towards Disaster. They obviously didn't have much interest in project hammer once they saw what it was.

A beat em up at that speed of swinging is good for motion controls.thedude-

lol am i the only 1 that didnt think the title waz misleading?

I don't think the game ever needed M+ imo. I think it needed a new art direction (a more mature theme) and it could've been Nintendo's God of War.

I see what you're saying, but the thing about M+ is that if you create a game that the player controls a weapon through motion, the camera is going to have to be fixed behind the character on screen, or in the first person mode like RS2.

RedSteel 2 works well because you don't have to animate the entire character, just his arm(s), weapons, and how they react while being used. If you give the player full control over how the character reacts on screen, there will be so many more animations, it would be insane. I don't think they would be willing to do so with a non-established franchise like Project HAMMER. Too risky imo.

Could you imagine playing an "over-the-shoulder" game like Resident Evil 4 and the character on screen had a huge sword (or in this case, a hammer) and the camera wasn't at least somewhat fixed? It would be a pain in the ass imo.

This is why Zelda Wii will have a fixed camera, and it will always be directly behind Link.

redlightstudios

It does not have to be as fixed as you say, but yes it would have to be third person view. Is that a problem though?

The characters are extremely cartoony and there are ways of making it somewhat fluid. Regardless there is going to be a certain amount of "twitch" factor, but nothing insurmountable.

It would have limitations on the camera, but it would probably be good for the game. Often fixed cameras do not work in games.

You have no idea what they will do with Zelda.

Very misleading title and a whole lot of mere speculation about how the game would handle without WM+Sepewrath

Its still a misleading topic title at a glace. I don't see the neccesity for wording like that all. You simply could have said "Nintendo should bring back PH with WM+" simple as that. And on the actual topic, like I said, there is little indication of what they would have done with the game, WM+ is not a cure all. If the game ended up being sort of hack and slash(basically speedy combat) like it would be more WM+ powered waggle than anything else. Sepewrath

Project SAW would be better.so_hai

lol

it's changed, nowcan we please get back to the discussion. It's honestly not that big've a deal

lol

it's changed, nowcan we please get back to the discussion. It's honestly not that big've a deal