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my measurement for games getting better is simply the number of good games released, rather than matching each game to the other. in this method, id say that the wii's library has been fairly even. nintendo put out a bunch of quality first party games in the earlier parts of the wii life cycle, but theyve since gone on a lull.however, there has been a recent surge of 3rd party support (im glad to see that on a nintendo console again) to pick up the slack. assuming the 3rd party support keeps up, id say theres a pretty optimistic future for the wii since nintendo is bound to release some more of its big franchises (zelda, anyone?).
It was getting worse, it seems to be getting slightly better, by the end of this year it shoud be average, but there are hardly any new Nintendo games this year...thats annoying.stike22Well Nintendo could rush their games out, but then they would be shovelware. Nintendo always takes forever with development, as a long time Nintendo fan, you learn patience. The Wii is alot like the PS2, you have wade through the crap to find the gems. The only reason you didn't hear the same kind of talk that you hear about the Wii for the PS2 is because they had alot more quality 3rd party games, but much fewer 1st party titles, and of course there wasn't all this casual vs hardcore nonsense. In short. The games aren't getting better or worst, there are just a lot of good titles like MP3, NMH or Madworld in a sea of bad titles.
Well there seem to be a lot of good games coming out this year despite everyone constantly bickering about it. Third party support looks awesome so far this year and it looks to keep getting better.
Lol...same...some games I have wanted to play for a long time. Arc Rise Monster Hunt 3 Conduit saw this in 2007 had a physics trailer as well, taken its time to come out. Where the hek is Pikmin 3...wasn't that supposed to be out like the beginning of this year...then Pikmin 1 came out instead...I don't think I am actually gonna get it but where is Pikmin 3? where are new Nintendo games? where the hek is Starfox? F-Zero? bunch of others that I can't be bothered to write because this will turn into a list. When they do come out though I will be very happy...unless they are all flops, in that case I think its time to write a hard physical letter to Nintendo in the form of a brick through there HQs left window...the one near Shigeru's office. Lol.I think by the summer people will have a much more sunnier outlook on the Wii's future. Besides it can't get much worse :P
firefox59
Way worse. I haven't gotten a new game for the Wii since Mario Kart (What was that? Like 4 months ago?).
Seems like Nintendo has been working too much on the DSi, and the new software.
Way worse. I haven't gotten a new game for the Wii since Mario Kart (What was that? Like 4 months ago?).
Seems like Nintendo has been working too much on the DSi, and the new software.
You poor *****, (like 7months) hahaha! you have actually made me feel good about my self now thanks. No only joking sorry to hear that mate, god its dead zone, well hears to us getting some good games eventually.I personally think the lineup is getting worse, there is a lot more shovelware and a lot less good games than there was 2 years ago.
Also,the shovelware on the Wii is more comparable to the Atari 2600's shovelware than it is to thethe PS2's.
If you want my two cents, the Wii's lineup from year to year since 2007 has gotten worse in my opinion. That's not to say that 2008 or 2009 were/will be bad years, respectively, but the start Nintendo jumped out to have left more to be desired in the following years. This year, without a high profile Nintendo game to lead the charge thus far, there hasn't been a single definite must-have game for the system yet. At least by this point last year, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, and Wii Fit were all in that discussion. The third party lineup has improved slightly, but there's still a lot more bad than good there, as well. That being said, when you get peoples' hopes up with a lineup like Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, and Metroid Prime 3, just to name a few, in one year, it's going to be tough to top it later on. :P
I'd say it's overall the same, at least to me. The only difference is that the games coming out lately are 3rd party, and not 1st.
Tis a little mix up this year, because we have a nice list of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party coming out this year....but it all depends on if they are actually good games or not. And I'm not reffering to ports either...they are all garbage besides MP 1/2
I'm rooting for the under dogs though; Cursed Mountain, Rune Factory, and a few others. I'm really interested in that game by Hudson (if it is for the Wii). I think it's called "the Calling". That looked pretty neat.
Or Nintendo could buy some teams and work them like dogs...that would be nice...honesty last new nintendo game was Brawl...that was like 5 months ago, telling me they can't make a single game within a year...PS2 really isn't much like the Wii, Wii is king of Shovelware, PS2 was king of third party. Besides I have already completed all of Wii's really good games, the third party games are crap and last about a day or two...PS2 games at least took a week...what annoys me most is that time isn't an excuse for Nintendo, you have games like RESI 5 being made quicker then a Nintendo games bloody joke. Don't give a crap about Hardcore vs casuals but I wish casuals would have better standards for games, games today are to dead if you enjoy the games now then why aren't you playing them now instead of arguing with a hardcore? MP3 was out ages ago and it wasn't as good as the others, Madworld is pointless unless you only have a Wii, honestly my Wii's been sitting there for ages, only game played in this entire year is Brawl...all they need to do is remake or make a sequel to some of the old games on Gamecube or N64...thats all, instead they have wasted around 2yrs doing hardly anything but Shovel and about 2 good games...I really am desperate for a decent game, been waiting for Starfox for god knows how long, but it seems like Nintendo can only release on good game a year. And I have no interest in games I complete in a day, I have far too many games like that now, want one that actually lasts but I have clocked them all so Wii's dead for me until a decent game comes out. I plan on getting Metroid Prime 1 for Wii that will keep me happy for a time, after that its looking like another nice wait until the new Zelda comes out or something.stike22
PS2 still have a lot of more sholveware and flops than Wii...
I believe they are getting worse. They need to make some Tom Clancy or other fun games like that. The sports games are difinitely getting worse. I just had a birthday and got a lot of money, but now I don't have anything to spend it on besides Nintendo DS games.
Or Nintendo could buy some teams and work them like dogs...that would be nice...honesty last new nintendo game was Brawl...that was like 5 months ago, telling me they can't make a single game within a yearare you forgetting Mario Kart, wii fit, wario land shake it, animal crossing CF, wii music, mario super sluggers, and the wii makes?
...PS2 really isn't much like the Wii, Wii is king of Shovelware, PS2 was king of third party. Besides I have already completed all of Wii's really good games, the third party games are crap and last about a day or two...
Maybe you should do some research, and find th egood third party games
PS2 games at least took a week...what annoys me most is that time isn't an excuse for Nintendo, you have games like RESI 5 being made quicker then a Nintendo games bloody joke
Resident evil 5 took over 2 years to be made. Some nintendo games take longer than that, but most of their games take the same time or less.
. Don't give a crap about Hardcore vs casuals but I wish casuals would have better standards for games, games today are to dead if you enjoy the games now then why aren't you playing them now instead of arguing with a hardcore?
The use of the word harcore, not in "quotation marks" :shock:
MP3 was out ages ago and it wasn't as good as the others, Madworld is pointless unless you only have a Wii, honestly my Wii's been sitting there for ages, only game played in this entire year is Brawl
Well theres your problem. Maybe you should go and get another game.
...all they need to do is remake or make a sequel to some of the old games on Gamecube or N64...thats all,
Done
instead they have wasted around 2yrs doing hardly anything but Shovel and about 2 good games
So MP3, Brawl, Galaxy, Mario Kart, Animal crossing, punch out, sin and punishment 2, and other games that are in development/ games that have been released in the last 2 years, means that nintendo is hardly doing anything?
...I really am desperate for a decent game, been waiting for Starfox for god knows how long, but it seems like Nintendo can only release on good game a year.
I refer you to what i said above, i am pretty sure that they release more than 1 good game a year.
And I have no interest in games I complete in a day,
Then don't buy those games
I have far too many games like that now,
hmmm, which ones exactly?
want one that actually lasts but I have clocked them all so Wii's dead for me until a decent game comes out.
Do some research to find games that you will like
I plan on getting Metroid Prime 1 for Wii that will keep me happy for a time, after that its looking like another nice wait until the new Zelda comes out or something.
Maybe the wii isnt for you, and you should not have bought it. You should have figured out which games you like, and which system has those best games. So it is all your fault that you are dissappointed with the wii
stike22
You create a good arguments to counter people. But that's just it...this topic is to gather ideas on what people think about the wiis progression, and the problem is, in their opinion there isn't anything they want out their for the wii. And since they paid for the wii, they have an equal opinion about what direction it is heading in. Especially with the line up it shared at the beginning. High hopes deflated by the gravity of mediocrity, or maybe just elongated hope... In any case, each of these people are right in their own way because they are who they are.[QUOTE="stike22"]Or Nintendo could buy some teams and work them like dogs...that would be nice...honesty last new nintendo game was Brawl...that was like 5 months ago, telling me they can't make a single game within a year
are you forgetting Mario Kart, wii fit, wario land shake it, animal crossing CF, wii music, mario super sluggers, and the wii makes?
...PS2 really isn't much like the Wii, Wii is king of Shovelware, PS2 was king of third party. Besides I have already completed all of Wii's really good games, the third party games are crap and last about a day or two...
Maybe you should do some research, and find th egood third party games
PS2 games at least took a week...what annoys me most is that time isn't an excuse for Nintendo, you have games like RESI 5 being made quicker then a Nintendo games bloody joke
Resident evil 5 took over 2 years to be made. Some nintendo games take longer than that, but most of their games take the same time or less.
. Don't give a crap about Hardcore vs casuals but I wish casuals would have better standards for games, games today are to dead if you enjoy the games now then why aren't you playing them now instead of arguing with a hardcore?
The use of the word harcore, not in "quotation marks" :shock:
MP3 was out ages ago and it wasn't as good as the others, Madworld is pointless unless you only have a Wii, honestly my Wii's been sitting there for ages, only game played in this entire year is Brawl
Well theres your problem. Maybe you should go and get another game.
...all they need to do is remake or make a sequel to some of the old games on Gamecube or N64...thats all,
Done
instead they have wasted around 2yrs doing hardly anything but Shovel and about 2 good games
So MP3, Brawl, Galaxy, Mario Kart, Animal crossing, punch out, sin and punishment 2, and other games that are in development/ games that have been released in the last 2 years, means that nintendo is hardly doing anything?
...I really am desperate for a decent game, been waiting for Starfox for god knows how long, but it seems like Nintendo can only release on good game a year.
I refer you to what i said above, i am pretty sure that they release more than 1 good game a year.
And I have no interest in games I complete in a day,
Then don't buy those games
I have far too many games like that now,
hmmm, which ones exactly?
want one that actually lasts but I have clocked them all so Wii's dead for me until a decent game comes out.
Do some research to find games that you will like
I plan on getting Metroid Prime 1 for Wii that will keep me happy for a time, after that its looking like another nice wait until the new Zelda comes out or something.
Maybe the wii isnt for you, and you should not have bought it. You should have figured out which games you like, and which system has those best games. So it is all your fault that you are dissappointed with the wii
alexh_99
the wii hasnt had a seriously good game released for it for almost a year now. they had mario kart, smash bros, galaxies, etc and now nothing. as well, everything i was looking forward to is bombing on reveiws everywhere, like tenchu, dead rising, onechambara. shake it, world at war, and madworld are like the only ok loking wii games that dont involve a fake guitar.
[QUOTE="alexh_99"][QUOTE="silent_step"] You create a good arguments to counter people. But that's just it...this topic is to gather ideas on what people think about the wiis progression, and the problem is, in their opinion there isn't anything they want out their for the wii. And since they paid for the wii, they have an equal opinion about what direction it is heading in. Especially with the line up it shared at the beginning. High hopes deflated by the gravity of mediocrity, or maybe just elongated hope... In any case, each of these people are right in their own way because they are who they are. silent_stepYes everyone does have there own opinion, but if he is complaining that the wii has no good games (besides brawl). Then he should not have got a wii in the first place. He should have looked at other options, and figured out which system would have been the best. and there are a ton of third party software out there. I am pretty sure at least one other game would please him if he just looked instead of complained True. I bought a wii just for the Zelda game when it first came out...I just assumed at that time it would have a pretty good release like gamecube sort of did. But how could anyone forsee Nintendos alteration in their marketing scheme which broaden their scopes so much? I'm not complaining but I think I'm worthy to that entitlement of deflated hope for such a bright and overpriced ebay item of a system.
The wii so far has had amazing releases. The big 3 (Galaxy, brawl, and MP3), and many others.
When you chose to buy a next gen system, you have to see what games are coming out for each one. Yes you are correct, not many people would have seen the wii being a huge hit, and bringing new people into gaming. But you still know what nintendo will offer.
You knew there was brawl, Mp3, galaxy, zelda. And you could assume that mario kart, super paper mario, star fox, pikmin, animal crossing, and others would come. If your not interested in those games, then you bought the wrong system. So there is no need to complain because it is your faul that you bought the wrong system for yourself.
I know your not complaining, im gearing this more toward the original poster that i quoted.
ok first off its not like you paid 600 ,,
so right now you got your money worth ,, and then some,
lets not forget, wii had a perfect or near perfect 07 , -06 was ok , , better then gc i can assure you that,
and 08 wasnt really that bad i mean come on we got 1 game a month from nintendo that year,
as any nint fan ,, or video gamer in general we should know nintendo makes most of the great games on each of their systems out side vb, laugh at it,
but ya,
and 3rd party support on wii is better then gc,
could care less of the shovel ware, i call em bargin bin titles they fit it more lol
and i found quite of alot of good so called shovel ware, fun wise,
and thats all that matters to me, fun , options etc graphics were the last thing i think about in any shape or form ,
even on ps3 360 , do you think id play guitar hero or banjo kazooie if i were a graphic cant say lol,
graphadict there thats ok for now lol,
if i were that, seriously i dont think i could have fun ,
who plays 100s of fps games and not get bored,
real now dont be oh , their mature ,oh ther hard core,
because obviously not they are just simply called violent video games,
that does not make them any more hard core then super mario galaxy or zack and wiki , , they are just aimed at adults, some are teen s
I think wii games are getting better, the variety as well as the content. Last year might not have been a great year in terms of 3rd party support but I think a lot of devolpers are coming to the wii and we've seen the results in the games that are being released this year.
I think it's getting a lot better. There's so many games that I'm excited for this year that it's crazy.
IMO games are getting worse, 3rd party devs found out that making cheap, shallow games or ports are selling well on the wii, look at its library (you dont even have to compare it to anything else) the games hardly achieve an 8 some of the games that do are multiplats where the wii version is the worse, like CoD: WaW wich i bought for wii and im very disapointed to get a bad copy of the ps360 version. Aparently the only one that can make decent games for wii is nintendo and all they do is rehash the same formula of its games over and over, look at mario kart for example or ever worse the wiimakes of old games
the game library is getting worse by the second. When i bought wii(before my ps3 and 360) i had a lot of hope for games like red steel or wii sports or racing games but most of them where so bad i mean look at the launch titles FFS!
So basically my opinion is wiimakes + shovelware + few spaced good 1st party = BAD
... why can you post posts like that but i cant make an effing paragraph that doesn smush into another paragraph?ok first off its not like you paid 600 ,,
so right now you got your money worth ,, and then some,
lets not forget, wii had a perfect or near perfect 07 , -06 was ok , , better then gc i can assure you that,
and 08 wasnt really that bad i mean come on we got 1 game a month from nintendo that year,
as any nint fan ,, or video gamer in general we should know nintendo makes most of the great games on each of their systems out side vb, laugh at it,
but ya,
and 3rd party support on wii is better then gc,
could care less of the shovel ware, i call em bargin bin titles they fit it more lol
and i found quite of alot of good so called shovel ware, fun wise,
and thats all that matters to me, fun , options etc graphics were the last thing i think about in any shape or form ,
even on ps3 360 , do you think id play guitar hero or banjo kazooie if i were a graphic cant say lol,
graphadict there thats ok for now lol,
if i were that, seriously i dont think i could have fun ,
who plays 100s of fps games and not get bored,
real now dont be oh , their mature ,oh ther hard core,
because obviously not they are just simply called violent video games,
that does not make them any more hard core then super mario galaxy or zack and wiki , , they are just aimed at adults, some are teen s
mariokart64fan
It's not a progression or a regression, it's a CYCLE.
Nintendo released a whole **** load of great titles within a relativley short period of time, so now we have to wait for more new ones.
If you'll remember the time before the Wii came out was pretty low on Nintendo games, and then we got a whole bunch - its a cycle.
So does a console having a cycle absolve it from making its audience wait a year or more for the primary company to make those games that everyone will play?
Every console has a cycle, but that doesn't mean it can still produce good games between the 'cycles'. So let me see here, PS 3 and 360 already released their giant titles (of course there are a few left but generally...) but they still release big titles like Dead Space, Fallout, and others.
I can't necessarily agree that a console can produce less than average games 'overall' because they had released all the titles their first party would publish.
Hell by that reasoning, I should just rent the wii if we are going on a cycle instead of owning one.
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