Does anyone else want a 3D driven world for a Donkey Kong game?

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#1 thedude-
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I liked DK64 so much. Yes it hasn't aged well, no it is not as good as the Country series of the franchise, but for its time it was gloriously grand.

 

I understand they want to highlight Mario for its 3d platforming but I think there is so much room for an entirely different 3D platforming experience with DK. Swinging through beautiful HD forests and smashing through terrains with mounts like the Rhino would be so exciting and exactly the kind of AAA experiences that would get people excited for Wii U.

 

Anyone else scratching their head wondering when the next 3D DK will come along? I feel like Retro will do better service to an immersive 3D world as detailed as Metroid Prime than another side scroller. Give Retro the difficult jobs let someone else deal with established side scrollers.

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Both 2-D Mario games and 2-D DK games had too much success recently for Nintendo to gamble on less popular game designs. I'd really love to see a 2-D Metroid rebirth in HD TBH. Platforming is much easier and natural to grasp in two dimensions, just look at Rayman Legends and the praise it's getting. I think after the Wii U has an established user base, Nintendo will(hopefully) try new things with their big franchises. It's just not realistic right now.

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Not really. I prefer platforming games in 2D over 3D.
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Both 2-D Mario games and 2-D DK games had too much success recently for Nintendo to gamble on less popular game designs. I'd really love to see a 2-D Metroid rebirth in HD TBH. Platforming is much easier and natural to grasp in two dimensions, just look at Rayman Legends and the praise it's getting. I think after the Wii U has an established user base, Nintendo will(hopefully) try new things with their big franchises. It's just not realistic right now.

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Hopefully, Wii U needs things other than side scrollers to highlight its creative benefits. I am not downplaying side scrollers, but we have enough of those, we do not have enough in depth 3D words. One of the most significant 3D worlds we are getting is a remake (WW HD, maybe this is a test run for bigger things to come though). While a 2D DK is great, a 3D DK could use the second screen in a thousand more ways.
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I liked DK64 so much. Yes it hasn't aged well, no it is not as good as the Country series of the franchise, but for its time it was gloriously grand.

I understand they want to highlight Mario for its 3d platforming but I think there is so much room for an entirely different 3D platforming experience with DK. Swinging through beautiful HD forests and smashing through terrains with mounts like the Rhino would be so exciting and exactly the kind of AAA experiences that would get people excited for Wii U.

Anyone else scratching their head wondering when the next 3D DK will come along? I feel like Retro will do better service to an immersive 3D world as detailed as Metroid Prime than another side scroller. Give Retro the difficult jobs let someone else deal with established side scrollers.

thedude-

This is a good idea. I still need to get a Wii U, but if I had one I would be interested in a 3D DK.

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#6 Pikminmaniac
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I wouldn't be opposed to it. I think it would be interesting to see, but having said that, I find 2D plarformers generally superior to 3D platformers. DKCR also just so happened to be the best Donkey Kong game ever created IMHO. I really enjoy the way that project turned out

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#7 wiifan001
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Not opposed, it's just that open world 3d platformers have been dead since 2001.

And there doesn't seem to be any sign of revival

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#8 GlitchOnMyLevel
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Yes I would love a new DK 3D world game. I thought they would have made one by now.. same goes for mario.

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#9 thedude-
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Not opposed, it's just that open world 3d platformers have been dead since 2001.

And there doesn't seem to be any sign of revival

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Keep in mind when I say a new DK in 3D, I am not talking about a direct sequel to DK64. I would want a much more simple game. DK64 was awesome for its time, but looking back, it had too many characters, too many collectibles, and not enough cohesiveness in the world. SMG and Metroid Prime were brilliant translations of the 2d counterparts and thats what we would need for a new DK game.
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#10 trugs26
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Yes. I liked Donkey Kong 64 too. Personally, I love that style of platformer (DK64, Banko Kazooie, etc.) 

When I see the dynamic camera move around in DKC Tropical Freese, I just wish I could explore the environment in 3D.

I'm secretly hoping that they have a dynamic camera because they're toying with the idea of a 3D Donkey Kong game by Retro Studios. That would be epic.

 

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#11 OreoMilkshake
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If it's more interesting than "collect all the bananas for five different characters." A game in the style of DK64 is the type of game that should be co-op. Not a 3D Mario game.
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I wouldn't be opposed it as one of my favorite platformers ever is a 3D platformer (Kya: Dark Lineage)kdl.

I honestly believe that if Nintendo were going to do a new 3D platformer for WiiU though, it would be a new Kid Icarus with the newfound popularity he's gotten since Brawl and seeing how well his game did on 3DS, expanding on that just seems natural.

 

If anyone remembers the game Kameo that came out on Xbox, kameo

I think that game could benefit from the Gamepad but the chances of that happening are slim to none seeing as how Kameo is made by Rare.

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Hecks yeah, sounds like an awesome idea to me :). Nintendo has a TON of money, I'm pretty sure they can experiment with their current franchises and be completely fine :)

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Yes, absolutely.

But for many reasons, some unknown, it'll probably never happen.  For one thing, Nintendo doesn't seem to care so much they won't even put DK64 on the VC, although maybe that's because they can't get the code or something.  But they know people want it, they could at least tell why they didn't, but they never did.

I also think Nintendo wouldn't have any idea of what do do with a modern 3D Donkey kong, and when they can easily turn out new Donkey Kong country games, it furthers their unwant.

Now you went and made me miss Rareware again :(

I'll tell you that we MIGHT see though at some point - a new Conker's bad fur day game at least that's the creator of the games goal - Chris Seavor.  He's trying to buy back the rights from M$., and there's a game coming up for Wii U and 3ds Called the unlikely legend of Rusty pup.

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I'm still waiting for DK64 to come to VC! so yes, a 3D DK game would be great!
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As long as they don't go overboard with the collectables like in dk64 I'm all for it.
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#17 Kamina85
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Not opposed, it's just that open world 3d platformers have been dead since 2001.

And there doesn't seem to be any sign of revival

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I'm not sure what qualifies as "open world", but 3D platformers definitely did not die that early. Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Rayman 3, three Jak and Daxter games, four Sly Cooper games, a lot of Ratchet and Clank games, etc. 2D platformers becoming virtually the only ones coming out is a much more recent phenomenon.
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#18 OmitName
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what are some game mechanics that would fit dk? which ones would not be a shoe horned ripoff, and not feel like it was utterly abandoning its legacy and its character. any of the great games in its heritage dont really rouse exploration or long haul slow paced adventuring. i got dk64 ages and ages ago. ive not mucked with it much, not that i wont or that its absolutely terrible, but i desperately hope that no one ever makes a game like that again. therefore, colectabling-ness is another choice far from consideration. (i think i heard somewhere that there are over a million things to collect in that game. hell, if your a completionist) no one wants to see dk with a gun; even if they shoot peanuts or oranges, sorry diddy.

if they were subtle and used it discerningly, (without it getting in the way, or coming off too overdone ) action platforming would do nicely. (ico, prince of persia, uncharted.) swinging on vines, grabbing ledges, finding paths. recall jungle beat; from what i can gather that seemed to be much in that manner, and worked well. it would do well to feel like a race i think. much of the legend worthy music in donkey kong country moves you along at a pretty good pace. perhaps dk might get wind of some dastardly intention of an imposing villain, and must outpace minions to various checkpoints then cut them off or defeat them. along with plenty of variety using set pieces or the tone of the surroundings. (ie: mine cart level, water levels, barrel shoot sections, vehicle sections [riding some other animal, not jeeps]) add in building traps / solving puzzles, the very sporadic encounter for some combat, and clever boss battles, hurray 3d dk. as long as combat did not count as; tie wearing gorilla abuses local fauna, we're good.

edit: my returns wont stick.

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No. DK64 was terrible. Not that any of the 2D DK games are good either.

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#20 meetroid8
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Yes. I liked Donkey Kong 64 too. Personally, I love that style of platformer (DK64, Banko Kazooie, etc.)

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Me too, I'm not sure I've ever enjoyed a platformer as much as I enjoyed the ones on the N64.
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#21 pierst179
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I absolutely love Donkey Kong 64.

I would love to see DK appearing on an adventure like that once more. Especially now that Mario seems to be mostly focused on sidescrollers and linear 3-D platformers, I think Donkey Kong would gain a lot by taking a more wide-open turn.

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#22 nameless12345
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Yes, but I don't think it will happen.

It's a safe bet to make a sidescroller these days so why bother making a 3D platformer, which are harder to make and would have less audience.

(btw: if you want to know where the platformer genre would likely evolve to if it didn't "regress" back to sidescrolling, take a look at Lego Undercover)

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Yes vine swinging and fast paced parkour like gameplay with good ol' DKC style music would be primo. Since they are exploring coop with 3d Mario games now, this could be a good avenue for a 3d DK game as well. Additionally 2d sections akin to DKC style. There is so much they could do with this. I cannot stress enough that the Wii U needs big AAA games, not niche or retro throwbacks as we will always get those regardless.
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#24 FFCYAN
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Yes vine swinging and fast paced parkour like gameplay with good ol' DKC style music would be primo. Since they are exploring coop with 3d Mario games now, this could be a good avenue for a 3d DK game as well. Additionally 2d sections akin to DKC style. There is so much they could do with this. I cannot stress enough that the Wii U needs big AAA games, not niche or retro throwbacks as we will always get those regardless.thedude-
A spiritual successor to a SMG game WOULD be a AAA game, which I expect SM3DW is going to be. Gameplay styles(2-D and 3-D) are subjective as far as overall quality and value. As far as sales, people vote 2-D. Some genres work better overall in certain designs(in this case 2-D). I feel DK would perhaps work better in 3-D given the right development treatment and thought, but that's mostly speculation at this point. Platformers are not a popular genre in this age of realistic FPS and TPS hardware driven blockbusters. Games designed as an "art-form" are sadly passed off as childish and irrelevant. What is relevant and important is what the gaming community embraces as a whole, which is mostly established franchises like COD and Halo. It's the sign of the times.

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A new 3D platforming DK game would be interesting for sure. I'd love to see what the team behind the Mario Galaxy games could do with such a project.
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A new 3D platforming DK game would be interesting for sure. I'd love to see what the team behind the Mario Galaxy games could do with such a project.Avatar_Taxidous

It wouldn't be the first time they handled a Donkey Kong project. They did a fantastic job with jungle beat and as always produced som stellar visuals while they were at it. I feel it was super underrated due to it being a unique take on a classic franchise.

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[QUOTE="Avatar_Taxidous"]A new 3D platforming DK game would be interesting for sure. I'd love to see what the team behind the Mario Galaxy games could do with such a project.Pikminmaniac

It wouldn't be the first time they handled a Donkey Kong project. They did a fantastic job with jungle beat and as always produced som stellar visuals while they were at it. I feel it was super underrated due to it being a unique take on a classic franchise.

Yeah they made the DK Jungle Beat game(s) eh? I never tried them myself (I never bought a Gamecube) but I'm sure I'd have a blast with them; I love rhythm games.
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#28 thetravman
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I'm craving for any 3D platformers really. It seems that Mario is the only one who can pull off that genre with stellar quality. I miss DK64, Banjo, and Conker's Bad Fur Day. I'm thrilled to see the recent rise of 2D platformers but where's the 3D love?

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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="Avatar_Taxidous"]A new 3D platforming DK game would be interesting for sure. I'd love to see what the team behind the Mario Galaxy games could do with such a project.Avatar_Taxidous

It wouldn't be the first time they handled a Donkey Kong project. They did a fantastic job with jungle beat and as always produced som stellar visuals while they were at it. I feel it was super underrated due to it being a unique take on a classic franchise.

Yeah they made the DK Jungle Beat game(s) eh? I never tried them myself (I never bought a Gamecube) but I'm sure I'd have a blast with them; I love rhythm games.

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat wasn't actually a rhythm game. It was a 2D platformer that controlled using the bongos that were released with Donkey Konga.

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#30 RatedSTARZ
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No. DK64 was terrible. Not that any of the 2D DK games are good either.

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A 3D platform game for Donkey Kong would be grand.
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#32 Guovssohas
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That would be awesome. I really miss those huge 3d worlds with many things to collect and secrets. Great times. I really hope they make a return.
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#33 nyc05
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I love 2D platformers and all, but I really want a new 3D world Donkey Kong game.

I'm sure this new Donkey Kong game will be fun, but I can't help but feel disappointed that it's 2D and not 3D.

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#34 bonesawisready5
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I wouldn't be against that. Maybe for 3DS where it might sell better. At the worst we could get a Donkey Kong 3D Land. Oh Nintendo, please buy Rare back from Microsoft and revamp their old IPs. They BELONG TO YOU! Nintendo's got $8 billion in cash, I wish they'd do it (of course MS would have to WANT to do it)

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#35 OmitName
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whenever word got to me of jungle beat, i recall mention that you could use the standard cube controller. i never understood how that worked. i almost bought it to find out. anyone? were you also able to use traditional controllers in the wii version?

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#36 nameless12345
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I wouldn't be against that. Maybe for 3DS where it might sell better. At the worst we could get a Donkey Kong 3D Land. Oh Nintendo, please buy Rare back from Microsoft and revamp their old IPs. They BELONG TO YOU! Nintendo's got $8 billion in cash, I wish they'd do it (of course MS would have to WANT to do it)

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I'm pretty sure Rare and their IPs belong to MS since quite a while now...

Nintendo should first bring back some of their own franchises before attempting something like that.

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#37 wiifan001
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Wii U's strongest area right now is the platformers.

mario bros u, luigi u, mario 3d world, epic mickey 2, dk tropical freeze, rayman legends, sonic lost world...

So, why not! Wii U is still early in its life and 3d platformers are trending