A Question for you complainers

So recently there has been a lot of hate for Nintendo going arround. Everyones like "Nintendo is Lazy!", or "All they make is ports."

The fact is that within the past 2 years we have got an entry in almost every Nintendo series: A Zelda, a Mario, a Mario Kart, a Paper Mario, a Metriod, a Smash Bros., and an Aninimal Crossing. All within a period of 2 years, all of them were phenomonal.

So it certainly makes sense to me that we are a little short on hardcore titles right now. Yes we are getting some ports but there are also plenty of new titles in development.

Anyways I think some of you need to stop whining about how "nintendo sucks" or whatever.

Discuss.

EDIT: Sorry about the misleading topic title, I guess my OP didn't containt a question but I think you get the gist of what I am trying to say.

Here's a nice paraphrase that sums up the situation nicely:

"You're only as good as your last work."

Not that I actually agree with that mentality, but it does explain a lot.

I think Nintendo is doing just fine. Its the third-party devs that have lost their marbles!

Although there has been SOME improvement (Deadly Creatures, MadWorld,CoD: World at War), the vast majority of devs still have no idea what they are doing when it comes to Wii.

You're right.

Yes, we played and loved all those games but most want a steady stream of good games throughout the system's lifecycle like we had with the NES, SNES, N64, and GC. Now, Nintendo is replacing new games with ports since they realized that they no longer need to try. That is why everyone is mad. However, I don't think anyone should go nuts until after E3.Rocky32189

The only thing that really disappoints me is the shoddy work apparently done on Mario Tennis. I don't mind a GC Conversion, but do it RIGHT.

How did Nintendo quality slip on screwing up the controls on an excellent game? Make a brand new tennis if you can't do it right. And the fact they did it pretty good at launch leaves less of an excuse.

And I might be wrong, but I don't think this tennis has any Wi-Fi support. Ridiculous. And I wouldn't be so bummed if it wasn't for the fact that there probably won't be a new Mario Tennis any time soon since that tripe came out.

I don't have anything bad to say about Wii. I love it. There are more than enough good games for me to play. And the virtual console is awesome as well. I've been pretty download happy recently. Ican't speak for anyone else, but I don't have time to play games for 10-12 hours a day. It seems like the people who complain are spoiled brats who get upset if a new game that lasts at least 30 hours isn't released like every other day.

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]Yes, we played and loved all those games but most want a steady stream of good games throughout the system's lifecycle like we had with the NES, SNES, N64, and GC. Now, Nintendo is replacing new games with ports since they realized that they no longer need to try. That is why everyone is mad. However, I don't think anyone should go nuts until after E3.alphamale1989

So recently there has been a lot of hate for Nintendo going arround. Everyones like "Nintendo is Lazy!", or "All they make is ports."

The fact is that within the past 2 years we have got an entry in almost every Nintendo series: A Zelda, a Mario, a Mario Kart, a Paper Mario, a Metriod, a Smash Bros., and an Aninimal Crossing. All within a period of 2 years, all of them were phenomonal.

So it certainly makes sense to me that we are a little short on hardcore titles right now. Yes we are getting some ports but there are also plenty of new titles in development.

Anyways I think some of you need to stop whining about how "nintendo sucks" or whatever.

Discuss.

EDIT: Sorry about the misleading topic title, I guess my OP didn't containt a question but I think you get the gist of what I am trying to say.

alphamale1989

where the heck is STARFOX! F-Zero! Nintendo promised games like this ages ago...Starfox is supposedly in development however its been years and not a single word yet they can make all these other crap gimmick games like there's no tomorrow!stike22

Um, the Wii hasn't been for Ages so the statement that those games were promised "Ages Ago" is false. I do agree that they should put more time into making those games instead of the remakes or what you call Crap Gimmick Games but even if they were putting in as much time and effort (Which they probably are, they're probably just not telling us gamers because they know we'd start making "What do you want in *Game Title Here* Threads" and when the people start asking for over-the-top things in the games like they did with Smash Bros, they know they won't be able to deliver what the fans want and the game won't live up to the hype and fans will be disappointed again). Also, I don't think we'd see the games yet even if they were putting time and effort into them like they are with the other Crap Gimmick Games simply due to the fact that they'd try to get all the glitches/graphics/gameplay/controls correct before they release them. I know Nintendo will release a Starfox and a F-Zero Game (Most likely with Wifi-play) so I'm just going to wait it out and not complain.

So recently there has been a lot of hate for Nintendo going arround. Everyones like "Nintendo is Lazy!", or "All they make is ports."

The fact is that within the past 2 years we have got an entry in almost every Nintendo series: A Zelda, a Mario, a Mario Kart, a Paper Mario, a Metriod, a Smash Bros., and an Aninimal Crossing. All within a period of 2 years, all of them were phenomonal.

So it certainly makes sense to me that we are a little short on hardcore titles right now. Yes we are getting some ports but there are also plenty of new titles in development.

Anyways I think some of you need to stop whining about how "nintendo sucks" or whatever.

Discuss.

EDIT: Sorry about the misleading topic title, I guess my OP didn't containt a question but I think you get the gist of what I am trying to say.

Nintendo Sucks the Wii is going up in the UK.

Nomad0404

haha, gotta lova forgetting commas.

(on topic)

I really haven't been impressed with anything Nintendo has been doing this gen to be honest besides releasing the console in refference to their big titles.

Zeldawas boring due to many factors (imo)

Mario was an awesome concept, but boring (imo)

Metroid was probably my favorite, but wasn't anything impressive (besides the controls being awesome)

SSBB, just don't see what the hype is...plus the online was horrible

Super Paper Mario haven't played it so I can't judge it

Mario Strikers Charged same as paper Mario, decent online (from what I've heard)

MarioKart was extremely fun, controls worked well, and the online worked

One game out seven (again, this is imo) that impressed me is not good. Ok, 1 out of 5 to be generous since I haven't played 2 of them.

I didn't even list Animal Crossing because I find that to be a joke, and now we get Wiiplaycontrolports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's hoping that WiiSports Resort/Punch Out!!! come through:roll:

[QUOTE="Nomad0404"]

Nintendo Sucks the Wii is going up in the UK.

haha, gotta lova forgetting commas.

(on topic)

I really haven't been impressed with anything Nintendo has been doing this gen to be honest besides releasing the console in refference to their big titles.

Zeldawas boring due to many factors (imo)

Mario was an awesome concept, but boring (imo)

Metroid was probably my favorite, but wasn't anything impressive (besides the controls being awesome)

SSBB, just don't see what the hype is...plus the online was horrible

Super Paper Mario haven't played it so I can't judge it

Mario Strikers Charged same as paper Mario, decent online (from what I've heard)

MarioKart was extremely fun, controls worked well, and the online worked

One game out seven (again, this is imo) that impressed me is not good. Ok, 1 out of 5 to be generous since I haven't played 2 of them.

I didn't even list Animal Crossing because I find that to be a joke, and now we get Wiiplaycontrolports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's hoping that WiiSports Resort/Punch Out!!! come through:roll:

[QUOTE="alphamale1989"][QUOTE="Rocky32189"]Yes, we played and loved all those games but most want a steady stream of good games throughout the system's lifecycle like we had with the NES, SNES, N64, and GC. Now, Nintendo is replacing new games with ports since they realized that they no longer need to try. That is why everyone is mad. However, I don't think anyone should go nuts until after E3.Rocky32189

[QUOTE="danger_ranger95"]

[QUOTE="Nomad0404"]

Nintendo Sucks the Wii is going up in the UK.

alphamale1989

haha, gotta lova forgetting commas.

(on topic)

I really haven't been impressed with anything Nintendo has been doing this gen to be honest besides releasing the console in refference to their big titles.

Zeldawas boring due to many factors (imo)

Mario was an awesome concept, but boring (imo)

Metroid was probably my favorite, but wasn't anything impressive (besides the controls being awesome)

SSBB, just don't see what the hype is...plus the online was horrible

Super Paper Mario haven't played it so I can't judge it

Mario Strikers Charged same as paper Mario, decent online (from what I've heard)

MarioKart was extremely fun, controls worked well, and the online worked

One game out seven (again, this is imo) that impressed me is not good. Ok, 1 out of 5 to be generous since I haven't played 2 of them.

I didn't even list Animal Crossing because I find that to be a joke, and now we get Wiiplaycontrolports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's hoping that WiiSports Resort/Punch Out!!! come through:roll:

Yeah I would assume Paper Mario would be at least decent. It's hard to have a Mario Platformer that's not when it's Nintendo. Those 4 titles were all well received, but I think I just expected more from each of them to be honest. They were all very solid running, good looking games just like Nintendo games alwaysare....but I think every single formula (from those games) have just become somewhat stale. Again, it's most likely me...but you have to understand, I've been playing those same games since they very first came out. I've seen alot come and go, and I expect more from Nintendo.

Thanks for the compliment though, I figured it would liven things up a tad

No offense mate but the standard of some gamers are just too low, yeh we had Mario Galaxy...great game but the easiest 3D Mario game so far....yeh we had Zelda TP...not even in the same class as Ocarina of Time..Metroid Prime 3 not as good as Metroid Prime 1 or 2.stike22

No offense, but the standard of some gamers are exceedingly high. You can't expect every Zelda to score a 11 out of 10. Regarding the issue of the overall difficulty of the mentioned games, I think you're missing a crucial concept of such implementations. Nintendo is trying to bring gaming to the masses, which include demographics who have never played before or have stopped playing. Having the difficulty bumped up to the point of where it is just fine for most 'hardcore' gamers - arguably the same level where it would be frustrating for newcomers, isn't exactly the best idea when compared to having a game such as Super Mario Galaxy for example, an "all access" game where the difficulty of completing it is at your discretion. If I remember correctly, Nintendo is adding guides to its games within the software or something to that extent, so the possibility of a bump in overall difficulty in future games is there.

The games are getting either easier or they are lacking something, if Nintendo is gonna make us wait then the games had best be better then previous gens...but they are not unless your a noob Nintendo fan...again not being offensive got nothing against noobs but the fact is Nintendo is taking too long to make their games.

I have completed all the great games on Wii about 3 times over, thats around 17 games, all completed. Need more and Nintendo just is getting them out quick enough...AS FOR SHOVELWARE that never seems to stop coming out...Nintendo needs to control their damn console and start releasing some more good bloody games on it, because its a sick joke.stike22

So you would like games to come out at a faster rate and yet at the same time it takes time to create quality software. Quantity over quality or vice versa, I'm confused with your preference here. In before "if Nintendo is gonna make us wait then the games had best be better then previous gens", refer to my above quote "You can't expect every Zelda to score a 11 out of 10". In before "why not have quality and quantity?", refer to my above quote "No offense, but the standard of some gamers are exceedingly high".

As for 'bloody' games, I may have the wrong assumption in the context in which that word was used, but such games were never Nintendo's preference. Even so, that doesn't stop games like Madworld and Resident Evil from being released.

And where the heck is STARFOX! F-Zero! Nintendo promised games like this ages ago...Starfox is supposedly in development however its been years and not a single word yet they can make all these other crap gimmick games like there's no tomorrow! thats why Nintendo is getting cursed at the moment.

The Wii is a fine console and I haven't got a problem with it, however Nintendo isn't putting it to its full potential, instead they are wasting time with crap games and take ages to bring out the proper games...I haven't had a Wii game since BRAWL!...thats what 6months without a damn game! thats a damn joke!stike22

I've been hungry for Star Fox since the N64 version as well : /. The ones released since on the GC took away all the pros of what made me love the original SNES and N64 versions.

As for Nintendo releasing gimmicky games, I'd like to know what you're refering to. If its about the GC remakes, I have no comment. As for everything else including Wii Sports and Wii Fit, these are software that have been proven to expand the gaming market as an introduction to newcomers on what the Wii is all about and the potential, the possibilities of gaming. The fact that gaming has become/is becoming mainstream and a lifestyle is in large due to Nintendo's approach and continued efforts in market expansion.

Nintendo needs to restore itself now and get back to making quality because from what I have seen on Wii games its a sick joke, you physically have to dig past the shovelware in shops just to find one decent game, its that bad. Nintendo's golden age was N64 and anything before, Gamecube was underrated and is better then Wii as far as I am concerned and Wii was a great idea but it has more shovelware then anything else.stike22

Shovelware aside, the rest of your remarks are all subjective. Regardless of whether or not games this generation (from Nintendo) exceeded their predecessors, they were widely regarded as 'quality games'.

So recently there has been a lot of hate for Nintendo going arround. Everyones like "Nintendo is Lazy!", or "All they make is ports."

The fact is that within the past 2 years we have got an entry in almost every Nintendo series: A Zelda, a Mario, a Mario Kart, a Paper Mario, a Metriod, a Smash Bros., and an Aninimal Crossing. All within a period of 2 years, all of them were phenomonal.

So it certainly makes sense to me that we are a little short on hardcore titles right now. Yes we are getting some ports but there are also plenty of new titles in development.

Anyways I think some of you need to stop whining about how "nintendo sucks" or whatever.

Discuss.

EDIT: Sorry about the misleading topic title, I guess my OP didn't containt a question but I think you get the gist of what I am trying to say.

alphamale1989

The past, if you keep looking @ the past, you might as well go back to SNES era & claim Nintendo ROCKS!...Nintendo didn't really deliver much during 2008 holidays time - Wii Music, & Animal Crossing *rehash*, BUT @ the same time, they spoke out against 3rd party abt how they don't get it etc etc..kinda hypocritical don't you think?

Luckily in 2009 *even early 2009* 3rd party delivered..Nintendo has yet to bring something to the table.

Nintendo hasn't released an actual Nintendo game since Brawl...6months...thats a jokestike22

Its got nothing to do with official rating or anything the Nintendo games today are too easy and no where near as good as the previous gens, thats a fact.stike22

Sure, they gave us good games close to launch. Now's when they need to start following it up. They haven't officially announced a new entry in the zelda franchise, they haven't announced a new IP of any sort, and they are putting all their resources into stuff like wii music and GC ports.

Yeah, i'm a little upset.

wait! are you being serious? you think that Mario Galaxy being easier then Mario Sunshine is an opinion? you are having a laugh mate. That ain't no opinion thats a fact. Make a post and ask everyone what is a hell of a lot easier Mario Galaxy or Mario Sunshine...the answer is obvious, you have to be a noob to think Mario Galaxy is harder.stike22

the Nintendo games today are too easy and no where near as good as the previous gens, thats a fact.stike22

I have a much better question, why the hell do people defend a console with endless shovelware and a ton of gimmick games? thats a much better question.stike22

The fact is that within the past 2 years we have got an entry in almost every Nintendo series: A Zelda, a Mario, a Mario Kart, a Paper Mario, a Metriod, a SmashBros., and an Aninimal Crossing. All within a period of 2 years, all of them were phenomonal.

alphamale1989

I found the bolded titles to be quite underwhelming.And I prefer the GC version of Twilight Princess over the Wii version for various reasons.

you think that Mario Galaxy being easier then Mario Sunshine is an opinion? you are having a laugh mate. That ain't no opinion thats a fact.stike22

No I think what he is referring to is how you said mario galaxy and the other games you listed weren't good. And hes right you seem to presume you speak for all of us when you make your statements about those games its all opinion. And why are you holding these games to the standard of the greatest games nintendo ever released? your only setting yourself up for disappointment when your expectations are unreasonably high. While nintendo hasn't unveiled anything huge yet it makes more since that they wouldn't show anything till its close to release since they figured they probably didnt want to make people mad by delaying everygame since its not polished or because it wasn't ready.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's really just been the third-party support that's been lazy and suckish. But that's improving greatly this year. I think by the end of 2009, the Wii will be the system to own. But that's just my opinion. Some people didn't like Animal Crossing.