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Pokemon games have the option between the two genders. Persona 3 PSP recently placed that option as well.
As a male, I'd play as a male, simple as that. The stereortype is that most video gamers will choose a VG female character to ogle at her assets and boobs and ass. Which is rather... pathetic.
What really needs to be changed is how sad most video game females are portrayed, especially in the age of the Internet because I would hope if one chooses to be... raging with hormones, they'd have another outlet to do it than in video games where the medium needs to be taken more seriously if it is to evolve.
I'd say maybe games need more protagonists like Jade, from Beyond Good and Evil? Also um... well I can't think of any at the moment, but mostly not the generic femme fatale that use their sexuality as like the only weapon. Kind of defeats the purpose.
As a male, I'd play as a male, simple as that. The stereortype is that most video gamers will choose a VG female character to ogle at her assets and boobs and ass. Which is rather... pathetic.
thattotally
Why does it have be to oogle? Why can't they enjoy the female characters from a design / personality perspective?
Because there isn't a design or personality perspective. At least, not a good one. This won't change any time soon, or heck possibly ever if something isn't done about it.
If given the choice, I'll choose my own gender, male, as long as they don't fall into the blank-faced bald stereotype a lot of male protagonists suffer. In all honesty i'd like to see more games star female leads just to escape the "blank-minded killing machine" meatheads that pollute 90% game box art.
Male, female, black, white, no hair, some hair. These things dont matter to me (unless the character looks really gruff. I just cant stand that style of character) besides that it all comes down to the story and music in my book. If they make those good I'm happy with the game.
When selecting a game character I don't think about its gender, just whether or not I like it, its functionality and such.
The other day a friend of mine came over, and we played Mario Kart Wii. Without even thinking I selected Daisy as I always do, not giving it a second thought. He says in a surprising voice "why did you pic a guurrrl?". Being caught off guard, I was a little embarrassed, but just for a moment. I then explained to him that I used her because of her weight class and vehicle selection.
After that, we just enjoyed a fun day of local multiplayer games.
Sadly, it hardly ever does, which means that the characters essentially are genderless, aside from their appearance. Booooring. :PChoosing gender only matter if it change the game.
wiouds
In the type of games I play, even if there is a choice, it never makes any difference so, being a male I always choose a female ( as I would in real life :lol: ):)
I'll play as a dude because I don't think women should be fighting or doing those other things that protagonists do.
I'm a male so if I get a choice I usually play as a male first, then female. Unless the male game model looks really stupid and ugly, then I'll just go with a female, because at least she'll look less stupid or ugly.
It's "I couldn't care less."If the game is good I could care less.
TravJon
Pokemon games have the option between the two genders. Persona 3 PSP recently placed that option as well.
As a male, I'd play as a male, simple as that. The stereortype is that most video gamers will choose a VG female character to ogle at her assets and boobs and ass. Which is rather... pathetic.
What really needs to be changed is how sad most video game females are portrayed, especially in the age of the Internet because I would hope if one chooses to be... raging with hormones, they'd have another outlet to do it than in video games where the medium needs to be taken more seriously if it is to evolve.
I'd say maybe games need more protagonists like Jade, from Beyond Good and Evil? Also um... well I can't think of any at the moment, but mostly not the generic femme fatale that use their sexuality as like the only weapon. Kind of defeats the purpose.
thattotally
lara croft and jill from resident evil if my memory serves me right.
[quote="thattotally"]I'd say maybe games need more protagonists like Jade, from Beyond Good and Evil? Also um... well I can't think of any at the moment, but mostly not the generic femme fatale that use their sexuality as like the only weapon. Kind of defeats the purpose.
ghegpatatas
lara croft and jill from resident evil if my memory serves me right.
They rarely get to be the main protagonist, but there are a lot of good female characters out there that fit your description. WIthout even putting in much effort, I can off the top of my head think of these: Bastila Shan, KotOR 1 Kreia, KotOR 2 Female Sheppard, ME 1 and 2 Shiki, The World Ends With You Garnet Til Alexandros, FF9 Marle, ChronoTrigger Fall-From-Grace, Planescape:Torment Aribeth, Neverwinter Nights 1 Chris, Suikoden 3 Sialeeds, Suikoden 5 Mitsuru and Yukari, Persona 3 Chie, Persona 4 I'm sure if I bothered to look up the characters in each game in my collection I could find more.Some guys might not like it but I wouldn't care since I'm a black guy and I pretty much never get to play as characters who are like me at all. Playing as a female character wouldn't be all that different than playing as the standard gaming protagonist.Senor_KamiGood perspective, that needs to come up more often. :) One of the reasons I like WRPGs is because I can customize the appearance of the character to whatever I want, including skin color and hair color, bone structure, et cetera. I'd love to see that feature spread to other genres.
Why does it matter? If a game used a female protagonist well so that she's not there just for sex appeal (Hi, Bayonetta) it would not influence my decision to buy a game one way or another. [QUOTE="TravJon"]It's "I couldn't care less."If the game is good I could care less.
AngelicAvenger
Yeah, that's what I meant to type
[QUOTE="ghegpatatas"][quote="thattotally"]I'd say maybe games need more protagonists like Jade, from Beyond Good and Evil? Also um... well I can't think of any at the moment, but mostly not the generic femme fatale that use their sexuality as like the only weapon. Kind of defeats the purpose.
ChiliDragon
lara croft and jill from resident evil if my memory serves me right.
They rarely get to be the main protagonist, but there are a lot of good female characters out there that fit your description. WIthout even putting in much effort, I can off the top of my head think of these: Bastila Shan, KotOR 1 Kreia, KotOR 2 Female Sheppard, ME 1 and 2 Shiki, The World Ends With You Garnet Til Alexandros, FF9 Marle, ChronoTrigger Fall-From-Grace, Planescape:Torment Aribeth, Neverwinter Nights 1 Chris, Suikoden 3 Sialeeds, Suikoden 5 Mitsuru and Yukari, Persona 3 Chie, Persona 4 I'm sure if I bothered to look up the characters in each game in my collection I could find more.You're just listing side characters... though I love Shiki because The World Ends With You is such a unique game.
I prefer a female character, more so if a well written character or one I can create and not have to be bothered with a voice for, instead giving her a voice as I play.
Gotten sick to death of male characters of the years, too much of the same thing with the same story - man kill many, man hero. Man want revenge, man kill many, man die/live. And so on.
I refuse to play games with male characters these days because it's just too much of the same with a character I couldn't care less about, a character I can't identify with.
If I'm going to be playing a game for hours, then I prefer a female character and one I can identify with, instead of some done many times before male character.
The rare times there is a female character, be it as an option or main lead, it's a refreshing change from the usual male. Developers tend to follow the usual dull stereotypes for characters though, imagination can be rare when it's easier to just do the same old thing and not bother to really work on the character.
[QUOTE="ghegpatatas"][quote="thattotally"]I'd say maybe games need more protagonists like Jade, from Beyond Good and Evil? Also um... well I can't think of any at the moment, but mostly not the generic femme fatale that use their sexuality as like the only weapon. Kind of defeats the purpose.
ChiliDragon
lara croft and jill from resident evil if my memory serves me right.
They rarely get to be the main protagonist, but there are a lot of good female characters out there that fit your description. WIthout even putting in much effort, I can off the top of my head think of these: Bastila Shan, KotOR 1 Kreia, KotOR 2 Female Sheppard, ME 1 and 2 Shiki, The World Ends With You Garnet Til Alexandros, FF9 Marle, ChronoTrigger Fall-From-Grace, Planescape:Torment Aribeth, Neverwinter Nights 1 Chris, Suikoden 3 Sialeeds, Suikoden 5 Mitsuru and Yukari, Persona 3 Chie, Persona 4 I'm sure if I bothered to look up the characters in each game in my collection I could find more. The thing is, many of these games are simply with the option to play as a female - the amount of times I've had to be a male character simply because it's the only gender available is unbelievable - don't get me wrong, it'd never stop me from playing, as such, it's just nice when there's an option; way more girls that I know have begun getting into games over the years, and, looking at the article, just because they don't play games which have women as the main protagonist (because there aren't as many out there as male characters), does that mean that they will have to wait what looks like a few generations for game designers to get their act together? I know men/boys 'typically' (and I use the term loosely, because not all do, but the general consensus is that they do and girls don't AT ALL) play more games, but I just think that maybe the first producers way back in the day should have started off with male and female protagonists alike, so that they really knew what their audience wanted...?The way I feel about that is that if they do, the fact that it's a female lead still breaks up the lull and creates variety. Just like having a male lead who's not obviously of European white ancestry would be a change as well. Or if he is, make him homosexual. (That' s a great idea, someone should do that! It doesn't have to be the main focus, Just make the dead wife he's missing sometimes a male lover instead.) Basically, the fact it's a female lead in and of itself is a break from the "same old, same old"... the white male stereotype isn't dull and repetitive because he's a white male, it's because he's always a white male.You are implying that games with female leads do not follow the same archetype (woman kill many, woman become hero).
reason58
The thing is, many of these games are simply with the option to play as a female - the amount of times I've had to be a male character simply because it's the only gender available is unbelievable - don't get me wrong, it'd never stop me from playing, as such, it's just nice when there's an option; way more girls that I know have begun getting into games over the years, and, looking at the article, just because they don't play games which have women as the main protagonist (because there aren't as many out there as male characters), does that mean that they will have to wait what looks like a few generations for game designers to get their act together?thecharmedbajaYou mean like the movie industry, who has evolved to have large number of well written and three-dimensional female leads as strong characters in non-traditional roles? (Yes, that was sarcasm. :P) I would much rather have a good male character as the main protagonist than a poorly written female lead created specifically to try and appeal to a wider audience. If it doesn't make story sense to have a female lead, the main protagonist should be male, and of course vice versa. If either one makes equal sense, let the player choose. I have a hard time picturing anyone not getting into video games because there's too few female leads in them... the enjoyment players get out of the vast majority of genres usually doesn't come from identifying with the protagonist. Sure it would be nice to see diversity away from the never-ending stream of white male heroes, but male and female are jsut the first twp and not by far the only alternatives available to a creative developer.
It's a theory put forth that there are only seven [roughly] original stories in the world: 1 - man vs. nature 2 - man vs. man 3 - man vs. the environment 4 - man vs. machines/technology 5 - man vs. the supernatural 6 - man vs. self 7 - man vs. god/religion I merely meant they never seem to waver from these guidelines, and take to heart the man part of each story.... :)What the heck is a seven world theory?
Safetynetss
[QUOTE="giving_upnoun"][QUOTE="ChiliDragon"]They rarely get to be the main protagonist, but there are a lot of good female characters out there that fit your description. Without even putting in much effort, I can off the top of my head think of these: Bastila Shan, KotOR 1 Kreia, KotOR 2 Female Sheppard, ME 1 and 2 Shiki, The World Ends With You Garnet Til Alexandros, FF9 Marle, ChronoTrigger Fall-From-Grace, Planescape:Torment Aribeth, Neverwinter Nights 1 Chris, Suikoden 3 Sialeeds, Suikoden 5 Mitsuru and Yukari, Persona 3 Chie, Persona 4 I'm sure if I bothered to look up the characters in each game in my collection I could find more.ChiliDragonYou're just listing side characters... Just as I said I would, in the very first sentence you're quoting. I've bolded it for emphasis for you. :P
Yeah, and the topic title asks for protagonists so... hehe :)
You mean like the movie industry, who has evolved to have large number of well written and three-dimensional female leads as strong characters in non-traditional roles? (Yes, that was sarcasm. :P)ChiliDragonThe way you worded this reminded me that books are able to do exactly that, so I guess it's only fair to give the interactive side of the media a chance to catch up with books in how it has progressed over the years... Although saying that, there have always been female leads in novels, it's never been an issue, for example Elizabeth Bennet, Jane Austen's main character in P&P (although that's undoubtedly more than a few generations down the line with regard to books! :P) It's true, a game's gender is the smallest step in the right direction... so shouldn't they have begun ages ago? I know I'm repeating myself, but I find it difficult to believe such prejudice!
Yeah, and the topic title asks for protagonists so... hehe :)giving_upnounProtagonist definition: 1. The main character in a drama or other literary work. Straight off google! :P
I've run multiple playthroughs of Dragon Age, both Mass Effects, and Drakensang with a female character. Gender doesn't matter to me in a game's main character.
Drakensang was a blast with a female elf warrior...she would leap six feet into the air when delivering some attacks.:lol:
Pokemon games have the option between the two genders. Persona 3 PSP recently placed that option as well.
As a male, I'd play as a male, simple as that. The stereortype is that most video gamers will choose a VG female character to ogle at her assets and boobs and ass. Which is rather... pathetic.
What really needs to be changed is how sad most video game females are portrayed, especially in the age of the Internet because I would hope if one chooses to be... raging with hormones, they'd have another outlet to do it than in video games where the medium needs to be taken more seriously if it is to evolve.
I'd say maybe games need more protagonists like Jade, from Beyond Good and Evil? Also um... well I can't think of any at the moment, but mostly not the generic femme fatale that use their sexuality as like the only weapon. Kind of defeats the purpose.
thattotally
First off I'd play as a male if given the option, but overall what gender the protagonist is doesn't make or break the game for me, however how the protagonist acts can ruin it a bit.
I agree with you, we don't need the whole femme fatale thing or the fake females dominating males thing as if that somehow shows "girl power". If I was a woman I think I might even be insulted, the again others seem to like it. I mean look at the reception of certain action movies that frequently feature female protagonists who somehow always overpower much stronger men...people eat that stuff up.
As far as recent movies Scarlett Johannson's character in Iron Man 2 is a perfect example. I would much rather see a game or movie that has a female lead in a typically male role, yet doesn't make a big deal of her being a woman, i.e. her being overly sexy, or making comments about her opposition's male anatomy...that sort of thing.
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