Do you think the Resident Evil series should have stopped at RE5?

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#1 Posted by GSJones1994 (328 posts) -

The Resident Evil series is probably the greatest survival horror game series of all time, full of critically accalaimed titles such as Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 4 and Code: Veronica. But with the release of the critically panned Resident Evil 6, the RE game that isn't survival horror, do you think the series should have stopped at RE5? Or maybe since RE: Revelations was a complete success, do you think the series should continue since you think that Capcom can fix the series? Please let me know. Thanks!

#2 Posted by Emerald_Warrior (6581 posts) -

Well, I loved RE4. Granted, it was a departure from the rest of the series before it. But it was still a fantastic game with a great creepy atmosphere.

RE5, I wasn't a fan of. I don't like taking care of other characters, the game was more action than horror, and the atmosphere was all wrong in brighty and sunny Africa.

RE6 I got for Christmas from my wonderful wife, but I haven't had the chance to play it outside of installing updates and testing it. So I really can't say on this one, yet. But the little I did play, I wasn't fond of it. It just seemed to easy and too much quick-time events. You can't even really die, it seems, unless you forget where the "kick off" button is at.

#3 Posted by GSJones1994 (328 posts) -

Well, I loved RE4. Granted, it was a departure from the rest of the series before it. But it was still a fantastic game with a great creepy atmosphere.

RE5, I wasn't a fan of. I don't like taking care of other characters, the game was more action than horror, and the atmosphere was all wrong in brighty and sunny Africa.

RE6 I got for Christmas from my wonderful wife, but I haven't had the chance to play it outside of installing updates and testing it. So I really can't say on this one, yet. But the little I did play, I wasn't fond of it. It just seemed to easy and too much quick-time events. You can't even really die, it seems, unless you forget where the "kick off" button is at.

Emerald_Warrior
I enjoyed 5 so much that I beat it in one sitting. RE5 is also in the #6 spot on my top 10 underrated games list. A ton of people hate RE6 because they claim that it's a 100% action game. If you like it, that's great, dosen't mean you're an idiot. I'm just hoping that Capcom can fix the series and make the most worthy successor to RE4.
#4 Posted by Exceed20XX (1030 posts) -

Well, I loved RE4. Granted, it was a departure from the rest of the series before it. But it was still a fantastic game with a great creepy atmosphere.

RE5, I wasn't a fan of. I don't like taking care of other characters, the game was more action than horror, and the atmosphere was all wrong in brighty and sunny Africa.

RE6 I got for Christmas from my wonderful wife, but I haven't had the chance to play it outside of installing updates and testing it. So I really can't say on this one, yet. But the little I did play, I wasn't fond of it. It just seemed to easy and too much quick-time events. You can't even really die, it seems, unless you forget where the "kick off" button is at.

Emerald_Warrior

It's amusing with enemy players, just don't get impregnated in the face. That said I feel like I treat pre-4 and post-4 REs as different things in a way.

#5 Posted by logicalfrank (1641 posts) -

I am hoping they keep it up on handhelds. Survivor horror works so well w/ headphones!

#6 Posted by famicommander (8524 posts) -
No, it should have stopped at four. Resident Evil 5 was an awful mess as were 6, Revelations, Mercenaries, and Operation Raccoon City. The best non-remake Resident Evil games released this entire console generation were Wii lightgun shooters. The series deserves better.
#7 Posted by NirdBerd (2116 posts) -

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Well, I loved RE4. Granted, it was a departure from the rest of the series before it. But it was still a fantastic game with a great creepy atmosphere.

RE5, I wasn't a fan of. I don't like taking care of other characters, the game was more action than horror, and the atmosphere was all wrong in brighty and sunny Africa.

RE6 I got for Christmas from my wonderful wife, but I haven't had the chance to play it outside of installing updates and testing it. So I really can't say on this one, yet. But the little I did play, I wasn't fond of it. It just seemed to easy and too much quick-time events. You can't even really die, it seems, unless you forget where the "kick off" button is at.

GSJones1994

I enjoyed 5 so much that I beat it in one sitting. RE5 is also in the #6 spot on my top 10 underrated games list. A ton of people hate RE6 because they claim that it's a 100% action game. If you like it, that's great, dosen't mean you're an idiot. I'm just hoping that Capcom can fix the series and make the most worthy successor to RE4.

They did, and it turned out better. It's called Resident Evil: Revelations

#8 Posted by Exceed20XX (1030 posts) -

Perhaps the additional sales they're trying to garner out of Revelations via porting will convince them that that is the way to go from here on out. Revelations felt like it found an equlibrium that titles 4 and on couldn't. The only things I think I wanted more out of Revelations was more solo time and a few more enemy types.

.....

"MaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaayyyyyy DAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAy!!!"

(Likely why they're releasing the port in May, hopefully with that line in the commercials.)

#9 Posted by WitIsWisdom (3809 posts) -

I think the series should have stopped at 3. I may be in the minority here, not really sure seeing as though I am not a huge RE fan, but 2 is still my favorite of the bunch, and I have played nearly all of them up to and including Slant 6's attempt which I didnt think was nearly as bad as a lot of other people did even if it didnt feel completely traditional.

#10 Posted by MLBknights58 (5015 posts) -

If people continue to enjoy Resident Evil, then I see no reason for the Reisdent Evil franchise to stop.

#11 Posted by WitIsWisdom (3809 posts) -

If people continue to enjoy Resident Evil, then I see no reason for the Reisdent Evil franchise to stop.

MLBknights58

I completely agree, just like with ANY franchise. However how do long time fans of the series feel about the last couple installments? I feel that too often times developers sell out to the "lets broaden our fanbase" mentality and lose track of what they set out to do in the first place, and effectively pissing their long time fanbase off. It's kind of a lose lose situation. Look what happened to Zipper Interactive (although it was SONY's call to go more mainstream). Nintendo is also a culprit.... I really feel sorry for both of them, look at Nintendo sinking fast in this new gen era. Sometimes "milking" a fanbase may work, but it is risky and poor business ethics either way.

#12 Posted by Change_MyShorts (76 posts) -

Let me sum Resident Evil up...

Resident Evil - Wow this is different, and creepy. Cool game

Resident Evil 2 - This game is huge, great story, Things are great!!!

RE 3 Nemesis - Same setting from a different perspective, cool story and boss. Fun stuff!

RE Survivor - Whaaaaaa...ok I guess.

RE Code Veronica - HOLY CRAP!!! The graphics are great, story is good, give me more!!!

RE Remake - Wow, they made a great remake. look at those graphics...im scared, wahhh!!!

RE 4 - HOLY CRAP!!! behind shoulder, faster action, great visuals, this game is a good advancement for the series.

RE 5 - What is this Gears of wars meets Fantasia?

RE 6 - STOP...stop making them!!!!

#14 Posted by Change_MyShorts (76 posts) -

I think the series should have stopped at 3. I may be in the minority here, not really sure seeing as though I am not a huge RE fan, but 2 is still my favorite of the bunch, and I have played nearly all of them up to and including Slant 6's attempt which I didnt think was nearly as bad as a lot of other people did even if it didnt feel completely traditional.

WitIsWisdom

MOst die hard, been there since PS1 fans enjoy 1,2,3, & Code Veronica. CV on Dreamcast back in 2000 was great.

I forgot to mentioned RE zero in the above message.

RE Zero - Good game, too short and too easy, oh well...wahhhh zombie!!!

#15 Posted by WeskerTeam (1727 posts) -

RE0 was much longer then REmake and was about the same difficulty. However in RE0 you could start the game on normal where in REmake you had to start your first playthrough on either hard or easy.

#16 Posted by MonkeySpot (6070 posts) -

I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the RE games in my collection, which is pretty much all of them - Mind you, I haven't played "Raccoon City" yet (got it for $6), nor have I purchased RE6, but I intend to when it's really cheap. But I've enjoyed everything for what it was. yes, I like the original trilogy the best, but I see nothing wrong with "Outbreak" games, or "Deadly Aim", and hey, my favorite version of the original game is on the DS... They all tried something different, and even though they weren't always 100% successful, I have appreciated them for at least trying something different with each title to keep those of us who bought the original in 1996 guessing... And intrigued...

They're not all "awesome", or classics, but being the fan I am, I'm just glad they haven't stopped making them. Hopefully, they will learn from the mistakes of RE6 (we all know the common complaints, and most of them are completely justified, unfortunately)...

... But no, I'm glad they didn't stop before RE5 (one of my more favorite PS3 games, honestly - Didn't care for it until I put it up for a bit, and restarted several months later, but I found the magic of that title). I really LIKE that game, now. I feel like it fits VERY well into the pantheon of original games.

(I know I'll be vilified for this, but I don't care.)

RE5 is a rock-solid RE game. I'm looking forward to playing "Raccoon City", and RE6. And I hope CRAPCOM makes more games in the series, with new ideas and approaches. I like Anderson's MOVIES, and I was ecstatic at the finish of the most recent one, to see that it will most-definitely have a sequel.

Burn me in effigy, but I love it ALL.

:D

#17 Posted by GSJones1994 (328 posts) -
No, it should have stopped at four. Resident Evil 5 was an awful mess as were 6, Revelations, Mercenaries, and Operation Raccoon City. The best non-remake Resident Evil games released this entire console generation were Wii lightgun shooters. The series deserves better.famicommander
I thought 5 was a good game! How could you say such a thing? Critics loved 5!
#19 Posted by GSJones1994 (328 posts) -

They did, and it turned out better. It's called Resident Evil: Revelations

I dunno. Revelations' metacritic score was an 82/100.
#20 Posted by Emerald_Warrior (6581 posts) -

GSJones1994

They did, and it turned out better. It's called Resident Evil: Revelations

I dunno. Revelations' metacritic score was an 82/100.

It's not perfect, but it's still a good score in my book. Never played the game myself, just commenting on the score.

#21 Posted by GreySeal9 (24859 posts) -

[QUOTE="famicommander"]No, it should have stopped at four. Resident Evil 5 was an awful mess as were 6, Revelations, Mercenaries, and Operation Raccoon City. The best non-remake Resident Evil games released this entire console generation were Wii lightgun shooters. The series deserves better.GSJones1994
I thought 5 was a good game! How could you say such a thing? Critics loved 5!

I agree that calling Resident Evil 5 an awful mess is pretty silly.

It was absolutely inferior to the superb RE4, but it is not even close to being bad.

#22 Posted by GreySeal9 (24859 posts) -

I dunno. Revelations' metacritic score was an 82/100.GSJones1994

You do realize that you're allowed to form your own opinions, right?

#23 Posted by NirdBerd (2116 posts) -

GSJones1994

They did, and it turned out better. It's called Resident Evil: Revelations

I dunno. Revelations' metacritic score was an 82/100.

My opinion is not shaped on the basis of metascores, and neither should yours. 82/100 is a good score anyway, so I dunno what the hell you are implying

#24 Posted by Seabas989 (10546 posts) -

I never played 5 and 6. I do think 4 was amazing.

#25 Posted by Shenmue_Jehuty (5207 posts) -

I feel like the series should have been rapped up with a game after Code Veronica, but not with the RE4 that we got. It would have to be like the other RE games and have to do with zombies and Umbrella. Then they could have gone in the direction they did with RE4 and so on. They should have made the games before RE4 their own distinct story arc imo.

#26 Posted by famicommander (8524 posts) -
[QUOTE="famicommander"]No, it should have stopped at four. Resident Evil 5 was an awful mess as were 6, Revelations, Mercenaries, and Operation Raccoon City. The best non-remake Resident Evil games released this entire console generation were Wii lightgun shooters. The series deserves better.GSJones1994
I thought 5 was a good game! How could you say such a thing? Critics loved 5!

I don't give a rat's ass what any critic thinks about any game. Resident Evil 5 has incomprehensibly terrible parter AI (and the enemies aren't too smart either). If you do not have a human partner to play with Sheva will blow herself up, walk right up to boss characters and just stand there, waste all the ammo you'll let her and use every healing item she can get her hands on. The story is bad even for Resident Evil, and it doesn't even try to be a horror title. It's just a clunky third person shooter that doesn't let you walk+shoot at the same time. The inventory management is absurd and the pacing is awful. It's a bad game from the perspective of a cIassic Resident Evil title and it's a bad game completely independent of its pedigree. They never should have tried to continue the series without Mikami, because they clearly suck at it.
#27 Posted by JustPlainLucas (74441 posts) -
Should have stopped at 4. Since they didn't, we got 5. Because of THAT, we got 6...
#28 Posted by WitIsWisdom (3809 posts) -

I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the RE games in my collection, which is pretty much all of them - Mind you, I haven't played "Raccoon City" yet (got it for $6), nor have I purchased RE6, but I intend to when it's really cheap. But I've enjoyed everything for what it was. yes, I like the original trilogy the best, but I see nothing wrong with "Outbreak" games, or "Deadly Aim", and hey, my favorite version of the original game is on the DS... They all tried something different, and even though they weren't always 100% successful, I have appreciated them for at least trying something different with each title to keep those of us who bought the original in 1996 guessing... And intrigued...

They're not all "awesome", or classics, but being the fan I am, I'm just glad they haven't stopped making them. Hopefully, they will learn from the mistakes of RE6 (we all know the common complaints, and most of them are completely justified, unfortunately)...

... But no, I'm glad they didn't stop before RE5 (one of my more favorite PS3 games, honestly - Didn't care for it until I put it up for a bit, and restarted several months later, but I found the magic of that title). I really LIKE that game, now. I feel like it fits VERY well into the pantheon of original games.

(I know I'll be vilified for this, but I don't care.)

RE5 is a rock-solid RE game. I'm looking forward to playing "Raccoon City", and RE6. And I hope CRAPCOM makes more games in the series, with new ideas and approaches. I like Anderson's MOVIES, and I was ecstatic at the finish of the most recent one, to see that it will most-definitely have a sequel.

Burn me in effigy, but I love it ALL.

:D

MonkeySpot

First of all, let me say that I commend you. This is the exact kind of answer I like seeing. Sometimes I have a hard time accepting certain games in my favorite series, but I still love the series overall. This is written like a true fan of the RE series that understands sometimes developers take risks while at other times they should have listened to their intended audience just a little bit more. :)

With that being said, I think that most fans of long running series would probably prefer the developer to continue being innovative while maintaining the base formula they fell in love with to begin with.

Slant 6's take on RE was a stretch as was their take on SOCOM: Confrontation.... however, as much as I did not want to admit to liking Confrontation it wound up being a great game that blew the socks off SOCOM 4 which was made by Zipper... sigh... I guess there is still some small amount of hope left for the SOCOM series... imo Confrontation was and is the greatest shooter on the PS3.

I hope Slant can make a Confrontation 2... it might be a little different, but I learned to embrace it eventually. Cheers to reasonable objectiveness, that is not a trait many people carry these days ;)

#29 Posted by dagreenfish (1817 posts) -

No, it should have stopped at four. Resident Evil 5 was an awful mess as were 6, Revelations, Mercenaries, and Operation Raccoon City. The best non-remake Resident Evil games released this entire console generation were Wii lightgun shooters. The series deserves better.famicommander

I pretty much agree with this. Although 4 was a departure from the formula, it still had the RE/horror  feel and was a good game.  5 just turned it into another generic action shooter game. Even if it were releaed under a different title, 5 would still be a forgetable piece of garbage of a game.

#30 Posted by Change_MyShorts (76 posts) -

RE0 was much longer then REmake and was about the same difficulty. However in RE0 you could start the game on normal where in REmake you had to start your first playthrough on either hard or easy.

WeskerTeam

My cousin & I beat zero starting one evening and finishing up the next day. Zero is the shortest Resident Evil I have ever played after Survivor. Wasn't particularly hard neither in terms of puzzles or fights.

Remake took us 3 days on the hardest setting as chris, one of the toughest RE's IMO.

#31 Posted by andmcq (259 posts) -

Resident Evil should have stopped after Code Veronica. Everything after was/is trash.

#32 Posted by darksongbird (1234 posts) -

I picked the second choice. I haven't played anything after 4 other than my Revelations demo but I don't think the series should stop yet. People like it and if they churned out Revelations then I'm sure if they really tried they could make another great game that's *almost* as good as 4 if they *wanted* to. Like I said that's if they wanted to. For the longest time RE2 was my favorite but then 4 came around. At first I was unsure about 4's direction and found it a lot less scary than the other main RE games but still it was an excellent game in its own right. I rated it a 9/10 here.

#33 Posted by Blueresident87 (5340 posts) -

RE5 and RE6 were both a mess, perfect example of games where the developers had no idea what they were trying to do; trying to do way too much.

Revelations is a great game, but I'm not sure how much Capcom cares anymore...

#34 Posted by Kage1 (6754 posts) -

Should've stopped at Code Veronica

#35 Posted by gregbmil (2609 posts) -

After part 4 they should have went back to the original formula.   Then make an old style RE that just dominated over the other ones.   Then maybe another one like part 4, then back to an old style for the next one.

Lol, if you ask me:)

#36 Posted by MonkeySpot (6070 posts) -

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the RE games in my collection, which is pretty much all of them - Mind you, I haven't played "Raccoon City" yet (got it for $6), nor have I purchased RE6, but I intend to when it's really cheap. But I've enjoyed everything for what it was. yes, I like the original trilogy the best, but I see nothing wrong with "Outbreak" games, or "Deadly Aim", and hey, my favorite version of the original game is on the DS... They all tried something different, and even though they weren't always 100% successful, I have appreciated them for at least trying something different with each title to keep those of us who bought the original in 1996 guessing... And intrigued...

They're not all "awesome", or classics, but being the fan I am, I'm just glad they haven't stopped making them. Hopefully, they will learn from the mistakes of RE6 (we all know the common complaints, and most of them are completely justified, unfortunately)...

... But no, I'm glad they didn't stop before RE5 (one of my more favorite PS3 games, honestly - Didn't care for it until I put it up for a bit, and restarted several months later, but I found the magic of that title). I really LIKE that game, now. I feel like it fits VERY well into the pantheon of original games.

(I know I'll be vilified for this, but I don't care.)

RE5 is a rock-solid RE game. I'm looking forward to playing "Raccoon City", and RE6. And I hope CRAPCOM makes more games in the series, with new ideas and approaches. I like Anderson's MOVIES, and I was ecstatic at the finish of the most recent one, to see that it will most-definitely have a sequel.

Burn me in effigy, but I love it ALL.

:D

WitIsWisdom

 

First of all, let me say that I commend you. This is the exact kind of answer I like seeing. Sometimes I have a hard time accepting certain games in my favorite series, but I still love the series overall. This is written like a true fan of the RE series that understands sometimes developers take risks while at other times they should have listened to their intended audience just a little bit more. :)

With that being said, I think that most fans of long running series would probably prefer the developer to continue being innovative while maintaining the base formula they fell in love with to begin with.

Slant 6's take on RE was a stretch as was their take on SOCOM: Confrontation.... however, as much as I did not want to admit to liking Confrontation it wound up being a great game that blew the socks off SOCOM 4 which was made by Zipper... sigh... I guess there is still some small amount of hope left for the SOCOM series... imo Confrontation was and is the greatest shooter on the PS3.

I hope Slant can make a Confrontation 2... it might be a little different, but I learned to embrace it eventually. Cheers to reasonable objectiveness, that is not a trait many people carry these days ;)

Thank you for your observations, it's nice to be appreciated!

I think that gamers have become jaded and spoiled, some of them, and it's a shame. I have found that keeping an open mind about difference has enabled me to grow more in this hobby... Not holding onto critiques, or condemnational thoughts made by others, but to try a game myself and see what effect it has on me. Like all intoxicants, some I liked, some I didn't. But I tried them all (games AND stuff for my body & mind :P ), and made up my OWN opinions... Opinions which I then spared most of the people around me, because some folks like beer, others like pot... Some folks like FPS, others like RPG. But in keeping an open mind, I have been able to experience ALL of it... And I think that's key to anything of a recreational nature.

I will say, most-certainly, that having played through (and STILL owning) everything in the RE brand over the last 20 years, I fell that I have have a much more broad, well-rounded base of information with which to discuss the topic. People who haven't PLAYED "Outbreak" through, or haven't PLAYED RE5 through, need to shut their judgemental pie-holes on the games. Just because it didn't fit the formula you most appreciated, does NOT make it a "BAD GAME". There are games in the series which I didn't care for, but I know at the heart of it that they were playable, looked good, etc., but I simply didn't dig the mechanics, etc., of the game. I If "Veronica" was the last game you played in the series, that's where you need to stop talking. Your opinions on RE4's quality are null-and-void, JACK. Cuz a tremendous amount of fans and critics LOVED it.

I didn't appreciate the action-game leanings (at first), but I know it's a "Good Game". The masses have spoken. So in a sense, I was "wrong"... And the funny thing is, over time, I have indeed come to see the light and find the magic in it... As I did with RE5, finally, accepting it whole-heartedly into the pantheon as a righteous member of the series. Same with the movies.

I'm sure in time, I will find "Raccoon City" and RE6 belong, as well... Sometimes, it takes time and distance to see the true meaning of a piece of art.

#37 Posted by daltone_uk (5 posts) -

Am I the only person on the planet who thinks RE4 was very pretty but utterly terrible to play? It was Win Back with better graphics.

#38 Posted by tab134 (345 posts) -
they should have stopped at 4.
#39 Posted by MonkeySpot (6070 posts) -

Am I the only person on the planet who thinks RE4 was very pretty but utterly terrible to play? It was Win Back with better graphics.

daltone_uk

"Winback" is one word, great game, but I don't see the correlation... Two VERY different games, in so many ways...

#40 Posted by daltone_uk (5 posts) -

Really? I thought Winback (all one word) was pretty bad.

I see it this way - if you take away the auto aim and the cover mechanic, and just leave the laser sight and just leave the "move to position, aim whilst standing static, shoot" bit you basically have RE4. It even has the clunky movement controls.

When you consider that Max Payne was released on the PC in 2001 having a clunky, cumbersome "action" RE4 in 2005 didn't really impress me. MP was all about movement, RE4s gameplay was based around the very limited control you have over your character (seriously, if you could run and shoot the game would be incredibly easy.) In that respect it's not much of a jump from the previous REs, with their tank like control schemes, and a pretty dull action game to boot.

Anyway, that is just me!

#41 Posted by Admiral-lemnant (150 posts) -
Should have stopped when Silent Hill came out.
#42 Posted by mariokart64fan (19535 posts) -

no revelations was awsome if they stopped at 5 we wouldn't have seen revelations lol