Bayonetta 2 and the Wii U

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#1 iamllamapie
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Let it be said that Bayonetta 2 is pretty much the only reason I'm going to get a Wii U. I know, before you have a go at me "What about Mario, Zelda, Metroid etc!!!???!?!?!?". When it comes to Nintendo I'm more interested in Eternal Darkness, Starfox, F-Zero or their most recently acquired IP; Project Zero/Fatal Frame. I want to see what they'll do with them but they haven't made any since the GameCube...Well they havent made any Project Zero's and Starfox 64 3D doesn't count.

Anyway, what do you think? Want N. to touch these IPs they haven't touched for a while? And who else is excited for Bayonetta 2 as much as I am? Which is like 9/10

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#2  Edited By Some-Mist
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what about the wonderful 101 - by the creator/director of Bayonetta who worked on that instead of Bayonetta 2?

But yea, I'm eventually getting a Wii U for bayo 2, tw101, x, etc..

also, fatal frame 4 (Zero: Tsukihami no Kamen) released for the Wii last gen, can be patched with an English patch, and is one of the best survival horror games of last gen along with Amnesia: The Dark Descent and Ikenie No Yoru (Night of the Sacrifice).

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#3 iamllamapie
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@Some-Mist: Although I do want TW101 as I'm a big fan of Platinum, it's not a reason for me to buy a whole new console. As for the Project Zero on the Wii, I'd love to play 4. Only got 2 though. But PZ on the Wii U could be something special.

Not to mention Nintendo hasn't got long left with the Eternal Darkness trad mark. Sure they can get a 2 year extension on it, but if they do it could be a sign that there's a new one in production.

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#4 Gargus
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Ill buy it when it hits 20 dollars, like every other platinum games game has.

Although Id prefer they release it on the ps3 and 360 instead since Id much rather be playing it one of those systems instead.

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@Gargus said:

Ill buy it when it hits 20 dollars, like every other platinum games game has.

Although Id prefer they release it on the ps3 and 360 instead since Id much rather be playing it one of those systems instead.

Is that a shot at Platinum? Every game hits 20 bucks at some point.

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@Gargus said:

Ill buy it when it hits 20 dollars, like every other platinum games game has.

Although Id prefer they release it on the ps3 and 360 instead since Id much rather be playing it one of those systems instead.

Bayonetta was an intensely Japanese game whose PS3 version was complete shit. It put up the horrible numbers one would expect it to everywhere and a sequel doesn't make economic sense and wouldn't have happened if Nintendo hadn't ponied up the dough.

Yes, Bayonetta 2 will fail commercially even harder than Bayonetta 1, but if it wasn't for Nintendo it wouldn't exist at all so Bayonetta fans shouldn't complain.

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#7 IndianaPwns39
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Yeah I'll be picking up a Wii U once Bayonetta 2 lands. Luckily, I'm a fan of Mario, Zelda, and the other Nintendo franchises that'll make their way on the console sooner or later (confirmed or not) so I'll have plenty to play.

But yeah, I'm getting it primarily for Bayonetta 2 so you're not alone.

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@IndianaPwns39 said:

But yeah, I'm getting it primarily for Bayonetta 2 so you're not alone.

Thank god. When I said it on Wii U Daily I got quite the hate. "Mario Bros. U, 3D World, Pikmin 3! These are enough for you to get it!!!" is what I'd usually get.

But with Bayonetta 1 I remember all my friends mocking me for not playing MW2. I didn't care - guiding a lipstick bullet is more fun than throwing a knife at an army guy's head with no chance of failing.

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#9  Edited By gamingqueen
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I'm only getting WiiU to play Bayonetta 2 as well but gotta give credit when due, ninty is the most innovative in the industry with their console to portable machine. I hope system limitations don't affect the quality.

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#10  Edited By klonoafanboy122
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if nintendo made a starfox game in the style of 64 or atleast assault id buy it i loved starfox 64 to death

but then again nintendo already ruined pikmin so what would they do if they made a new starfox game

bayonetta 2 does look cool im still not gonna buy a wii u but it looks cool i loved the origonal bayonetta

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@iamllamapie said:

@IndianaPwns39 said:

But yeah, I'm getting it primarily for Bayonetta 2 so you're not alone.

Thank god. When I said it on Wii U Daily I got quite the hate. "Mario Bros. U, 3D World, Pikmin 3! These are enough for you to get it!!!" is what I'd usually get.

But with Bayonetta 1 I remember all my friends mocking me for not playing MW2. I didn't care - guiding a lipstick bullet is more fun than throwing a knife at an army guy's head with no chance of failing.

The diversity often showcased in gaming is usually overlooked for the trendy multiplayer fad that's currently swarming the market. I took plenty of criticism from friends that were hooked on WoW simply because I didn't play it, for example. While I've played my fair share of CoD over the years, I do think people that exclusively play it are missing out on some brilliant, uniquely fun experiences in other genres.

With the Wii-U, I have no doubt that I'll love Super Mario 3D World, or the new Donkey Kong Country, and so on. The only issue being that, while these games will certainly be exceptional in their design, they'll feel completely familiar. Yeah, Bayo 2 is a sequel but I only played one, where I've played several different Marios over the last 20 years and they so rarely feel any different. The movements, sights and sounds of Mario are always predictable, even if the level design remains innovative and fun.

I think, to some degree, Nintendo recognizes this and that's why they've tried to secure more "hardcore" titles, despite their lackluster success initially. They want to attract that audience of people who love those types of games, even if we're a minority in comparison to other places. Nintendo gave Bayonetta 2 a home, so they have my money. I'm the opposite of their usual crowd that buys it just for Mario, even though I'm a fan.

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#12  Edited By Randolph
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Platinum games only title to ever get near retail success was MG Rising. Bayonetta 2 will flop horribly at retail, and their will never be another game in the series after that because no one will fund it.

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@Randolph said:

Platinum games only title to ever get near retail success was MG Rising. Bayonetta 2 will flop horribly at retail, and their will never be another game in the series after that because no one will fund it.

I don't see Bayonetta 3 happening. At all. However, I didn't see Bayonetta 2 happening either so... thanks Nintendo, for taking this chance that's almost certainly doomed to fail!

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@Randolph said:

Platinum games only title to ever get near retail success was MG Rising. Bayonetta 2 will flop horribly at retail, and their will never be another game in the series after that because no one will fund it.

In the west they flop. In the east they sell relativity well. Although their games don't sell well here I'm grateful they release them here still (With the help of SEGA publishing it, of course).

Platinum Games I bought on release: Mad World, Bayonetta & Anarchy Reigns.

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@iamllamapie:

Vanquish was decent also.

I hope it sells enough that we see a third one.

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@gamingqueen: Got that on the PS3 sci-fy sale. Was fun

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@CarnageHeart said:

@Gargus said:

Ill buy it when it hits 20 dollars, like every other platinum games game has.

Although Id prefer they release it on the ps3 and 360 instead since Id much rather be playing it one of those systems instead.

Bayonetta was an intensely Japanese game whose PS3 version was complete shit. It put up the horrible numbers one would expect it to everywhere and a sequel doesn't make economic sense and wouldn't have happened if Nintendo hadn't ponied up the dough.

Yes, Bayonetta 2 will fail commercially even harder than Bayonetta 1, but if it wasn't for Nintendo it wouldn't exist at all so Bayonetta fans shouldn't complain.

though once I played the 360 version... I noticed the differences, but I bought the PS3 version first (didn't own a 360 at the time) and after it was patched... it wasn't "complete shit". It just had longer loading times and was a bit more washed out. I'd definitely recommend the 360 over the PS3 version, but the PS3 version is most definitely playable/good.

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As much as i liked Bayonetta i am not getting a wiiu just for that.

They'll be lucky if they sell 100k in total.....

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#19  Edited By CarnageHeart
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@Some-Mist said:

@CarnageHeart said:

@Gargus said:

Ill buy it when it hits 20 dollars, like every other platinum games game has.

Although Id prefer they release it on the ps3 and 360 instead since Id much rather be playing it one of those systems instead.

Bayonetta was an intensely Japanese game whose PS3 version was complete shit. It put up the horrible numbers one would expect it to everywhere and a sequel doesn't make economic sense and wouldn't have happened if Nintendo hadn't ponied up the dough.

Yes, Bayonetta 2 will fail commercially even harder than Bayonetta 1, but if it wasn't for Nintendo it wouldn't exist at all so Bayonetta fans shouldn't complain.

though once I played the 360 version... I noticed the differences, but I bought the PS3 version first (didn't own a 360 at the time) and after it was patched... it wasn't "complete shit". It just had longer loading times and was a bit more washed out. I'd definitely recommend the 360 over the PS3 version, but the PS3 version is most definitely playable/good.

Pre-patch (which took almost a year) the framerate was terrible, there was tons of slowdown, the loading was atrocious, the graphics were fuzzy and the colors were washed out.

Bayonetta post-patch may have worked its way up to lackluster port, but when it launched the PS3 version was just a disaster.

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#20 WR_Platinum
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I'm excited about Bayonetta 2, but I don't think I'll get the WiiU for it, I'm more waiting to see about the next Zelda title on WiiU if by any chance they have some kind of limited WiiU bundle, I'll be all over that!

Bayonetta 2 looks like it will be amazing, when I ge a WiiU, I'll sure to pick that one up.

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@CarnageHeart said:

@Some-Mist said:

@CarnageHeart said:

@Gargus said:

Ill buy it when it hits 20 dollars, like every other platinum games game has.

Although Id prefer they release it on the ps3 and 360 instead since Id much rather be playing it one of those systems instead.

Bayonetta was an intensely Japanese game whose PS3 version was complete shit. It put up the horrible numbers one would expect it to everywhere and a sequel doesn't make economic sense and wouldn't have happened if Nintendo hadn't ponied up the dough.

Yes, Bayonetta 2 will fail commercially even harder than Bayonetta 1, but if it wasn't for Nintendo it wouldn't exist at all so Bayonetta fans shouldn't complain.

though once I played the 360 version... I noticed the differences, but I bought the PS3 version first (didn't own a 360 at the time) and after it was patched... it wasn't "complete shit". It just had longer loading times and was a bit more washed out. I'd definitely recommend the 360 over the PS3 version, but the PS3 version is most definitely playable/good.

Pre-patch (which took almost a year) the framerate was terrible, there was tons of slowdown, the loading was atrocious, the graphics were fuzzy and the colors were washed out.

Bayonetta post-patch may have worked its way up to lackluster port, but when it launched the PS3 version was just a disaster.

People massively exaggerate how bad bayo on ps3 was... yes pre patch it had issues but once those got addressed it was very much playable and enjoyable.

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@Gargus said:

Ill buy it when it hits 20 dollars, like every other platinum games game has.

Although Id prefer they release it on the ps3 and 360 instead since Id much rather be playing it one of those systems instead.

Don't most games hit 20 dollars eventually?

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#23  Edited By VintAge68
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Having played the demo Bayonetta 2 is also one of the reasons I got a Wii U recently, among a couple of other games I am interested in playing on this platform (Monster Hunter, Lego City...). While I expect the retail price to drop relatively soon after release, this has also its negative side, of course: Bayonetta 2 won't nowise be a big sales success at least in the West, I fear.

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#24  Edited By iamllamapie
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@Demonjoe93 said:

@Gargus said:

Ill buy it when it hits 20 dollars, like every other platinum games game has.

Although Id prefer they release it on the ps3 and 360 instead since Id much rather be playing it one of those systems instead.

Don't most games hit 20 dollars eventually?

Yes, unless you're name is Nintendo. Their games stay £40 throughout nearly a whole system's life, drops in it's last year then rises to a stupid price. Or if you're a JRPG game on a Nintendo system.

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#25  Edited By Zjun
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@Gargus said:

Ill buy it when it hits 20 dollars, like every other platinum games game has.

Although Id prefer they release it on the ps3 and 360 instead since Id much rather be playing it one of those systems instead.

This.

The game doesn't look like it's worth anymore than just that.