Xbox One owners: Expect more free-to-play games

Microsoft gaming executive Phil Spencer says "good success" of F2P on Xbox 360 means more in the pipeline for new system.

Microsoft's first foray into the free-to-play console games market on Xbox 360 was successful, so much so that it sounds like the company is increasing its investment in this space with its next-generation console the Xbox One.

Asked on Twitter if Microsoft has any news to share on free-to-play console games, Spencer teased: "Yes. Good success with F2P on 360 will mean things come to Xbox One." He said Microsoft will announce specific details on new projects closer to their launch.

Microsoft's first free-to-play console game for Xbox 360 was Happy Wars, which has seen more than 6 million players since its original introduction in October 2012. Other free-to-play Xbox 360 games include Warface, Ascend: Hand of Kul, and World of Tanks. Those titles are all free to download, but you can also spend real money on virtual items.

Though Microsoft has labeled its free-to-play initiatives a success, without knowing how many people are actively spending money in the virtual worlds, it's difficult to know just how popular they really are. The same is true for Xbox One; Microsoft has not disclosed any engagement-type statistics for free-to-play games Killer Instinct or Xbox Fitness, among others.

In other Xbox One news, Microsoft today announced a special $500 Xbox One Titanfall bundle that includes a black console and a copy of the game. In addition, Microsoft today announced the system's first-ever price cut, dropping the price tag from £429.99 to £399.99 effective Friday, February 28. This price drop only applies to the UK.

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SPuDl
SPuDl

F2P means more massive installs

verrrb
verrrb

F2P is cool as long as the player isn't forced to pay every step of the way. Overall what good is a game if you can download it for free but you have to pay for to most essential parts of the game... I can see it now to use the dpad you have to buy an add on.. now to use buttons you have to buy the advanced controller package. Actually i think i will start development on that project lol...

http://ps4-xboxone.webs.com/

hardeddie
hardeddie

F2P behind the paywall of XBL. I rest my case.

hystavito
hystavito

@hardeddie  At this point in time it's mostly about the principle rather than being a practical issue.  Still, I do acknowledge that having free apps/services/games behind the paywall is not "fair", principle does matter.


However later in the generation it will become more of a practical problem.  When the Xbox One gets cheap enough, we'll see more "fringe" owners, people that are using it more for media, only playing games occasionally.  At the end of the gen we'll also see more owners who have lost interest and only play occasionally, and have yet to purchase the next MS console.


Basically as time passes we'll see more and more owners, and potential owners, that are less and less interested in paying for XBL.  Then it might become more of a practical problem rather than one of principle, affecting a substantial number of people.

hina_ken
hina_ken

@hystavito  The fact of the matter is that there are roughly 3 million early adopters that are obviously gamers and using the system to play games.

Sony has proven that people are willing to pay for these subscription services by switching over to the same model and selling it well at that!

Not only that, but as mentioned, Sony offers the same method of "free, behind the pay wall" with the free games it offers that you will no longer have access to after you stop paying.  On the same note, they will be doing the same with deep down when it comes, the thing that turns me away from having any interest in it is the thought that it will milk you all the way.

Lastly, when did $50 a year, or $4 a month, become a problem for everyone when most were fine with paying $15 a month subscription fees for one single game?  Am I confused?!?

DarqStalker
DarqStalker

Damn there is no pleasing anyone anymore. Is all anyone does anymore is complain and post negative comments now?  There's always got to be some negative aspect about anything huh?  Hey guys, free game here!! Oh wait.. XBL... Oh hey guys MS is doing great with f2p games and plans on releasing more in the future so we all can play games for free! Well blah blah they aren't telling us how successful they are.


It's like everyone feels so entitled to have everything for free nowadays and no one has the mindset to actually pay for anything yet have the right to squeeze out every negative aspect there is about anything and everything.  If I was so 1-sided and close-minded I wouldn't have as much fun as I do today as a gamer. If I limited myself to only complaining about the negatives of everything I'd be depressed and couldn't enjoy what these hard working developers are giving us to play.  There's so much good stuff out there to play why waste your time coming to an article to nit pick and express your negativity?  While I don't care much for the f2p model, I respect them for bringing to those that do and for those that it works for. Lots of great games have been created for those that like them and if that's how they enjoy their game time, I'm happy for them.

FULGOREY2K
FULGOREY2K

i guessing they don't remember that you need GOLD XBL for this

Daian
Daian

Secure? Lol, no network is secure, if the right people wanted it they'd brake into it just like they do anything else.

hina_ken
hina_ken

@Daian  That is true, no network is ever truly secure.  

I wonder why the right people have never "tried" to break in to the Xbox network, but have successfully invaded and stolen the consumers info from the Playstation network multiple times?

randomkidlol
randomkidlol

its not f2p if you need a gold subscription.

hina_ken
hina_ken

@randomkidlol  Neither do I.  I use my TV to stream, rather than waste the life of yet another component, such as a 4 or 5 hundred dollar console?

You guys need to pull yourselves out of LALA land and stop dreaming that Sony isn't pulling the same ones over on you guys that MS is!!

They only sold it to you cheaper for they couldn't make it through yet another wound that made them bleed even more money profusely!  That would have definitely been the end of them.

ziproy
ziproy

So they tell us these modes are successful and great while also telling us they have NO IDEA how successful the thing actually is??


I can't believe this. How can these people be so stupid? A better question is how dumb do the think we are?

hina_ken
hina_ken

@ziproy  They tell us that because unfortunately it is.  This isn't just based on the Xbox, but on nearly everything we see now.  For example:  cell phones, iPods, iPads, Kindles, etc.

So the test now is to see if they can pull the same crap on consoles.  I am just glad that some of the potentially good looking games that will be ruined by the model are on the PS4, most notably Deep Down.

ravenglass1
ravenglass1

it's an option people don't have to use it ....lets talk shit about free games


cirugo
cirugo

doesn't exactly instill any desire to revisit my decision to avoid the Xbone.

hina_ken
hina_ken

@cirugo  That is fine, you will have plenty of option to visit it on the PS4 since there have already been a few mentioned for it already.

This was the saddest thing about Deep Down, well, that and that it is on Sony's product.

PinchySkree
PinchySkree

Remember that every "Free to play" game has one or more subcategories that are not mentioned:

- Pay to Win (see Kixeye games and other facebook trash, whaling at it's best)

- Pay to Not Wait (similar to above where winning can be achieved by advancing past someone so it's easy)

- Chop and Change (cutting key features and content out of a game, then charging 30-50% of the games base price for it)

- Cosmetic Purchases only (Path of Exile)


In general Free to Play means the install is free then you pay up to 20 times the cost of a standard £29.99 game to get the rest of the games content, with pathetic excuses like "you should only buy what you want to use" Yeah, thanks for giving me the chance to enjoy a full game and test everything, because I know exactly what I want to play only and forever right from the start, right?


A good example of "Free" to Play is Anno 1404 being removed from Steam so they could break up the game and rebuild it as the shit Pay to Win browser game Anno Online.

hadlee73
hadlee73

Not sure how I feel about the Xbox One becoming the next Ouya.

hina_ken
hina_ken

@hadlee73  Not even close.  If you think that Microsoft is a simple little fly by night company like Boxer8, than it is time to do some edjamacating of yurself.


Any one who thinks that MS will die off after only 3 months of "not as many sales as the PS4", it is time to step out of your fanboy fueled ignorance and. . .  never mind.  It is pointless to argue with "haters" cause they just senselessly hate.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

X360 World of Tanks just hit 2,000,000 downloads

udubdawgz1
udubdawgz1

@sladakrobot  here's what matters:  who bought gold only for this game, who paid money after the free download, at what prices and for what, specifically.

any other numbers are irrelevant. 

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

Because this is the sort of news everyone wanted to hear. Way to know what your customers want, Microsoft.

DIGN
DIGN

Just announced. Titanfall will be free to play for all Xbox One Day owners.


Meanwhile on PS4... uhh we has Knack and Resoguns...

eternaldragoonx
eternaldragoonx

@DIGN Yet somehow still selling like hotcakes.....I really wish I could dive into the minds of these idiots and there 2 games and indie titles.

hina_ken
hina_ken

@ziproy  What indie titles?

And don't worry, you PS4 F2P games are on their way soon, already been anounced.

Warframe, planetside 2, DC Universe online 2, Deep Down, Drive Club, Don't Starve, etc.

Alright, bored with this now.

Mr_Big_Boss
Mr_Big_Boss

I don't think free to play is going to help the Xbone.

Divisionbell
Divisionbell

I don't think free to play is good for any system

Evil_Sidekick
Evil_Sidekick

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

F2P....but you need to pay for Live


AHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!


It's like MS just doesn't care anymore...

ggregd
ggregd

@pharoe777 @Evil_Sidekick  STOP TALKING!  

At least read before you type. Games with Gold and the FTP games this article is referring to are two different things.  It's not about the games MS is giving away to gold subscribers.  It's about games that were designed from the ground up to be Free to Play for better or worse like Path of Exile (better) or Dungeon Keeper (worse).

hina_ken
hina_ken

@Evil_Sidekick  AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

F2P....but you need to pay for PS+ to play or keep your free games from there too!


AHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!


It's like SONY just doesn't care anymore...

hina_ken
hina_ken

@ggregd  Much like Warframe, planetside 2, DC Universe online 2, Deep Down, Drive Club, Don't Starve, etc. on the PS4?

Same thing going on there, as they are different than the free games on PS+.  Those just happen to be old PC games that were good for a play through (possibly) than better off deleted when done.

Evil_Sidekick
Evil_Sidekick

@hina_ken First of all, i can't care less. This is not a PS vs XB thing, this is a F2P where you have to pay to play, which invalidates the idea of F2P. Second, Sony doesn't do that (at least that's what they say), any F2P game doesn't require PSN+....it really is F2P.


BTW, i don't have a PS4 (or a PS3) nor do i care for F2P (the worst thing in gaming imo)

kb2beast
kb2beast

These comments are just ridiculous. Trying to make MS out as the devil once again when the PS4 already has Warframe and Blacklight Retribution on the system from launch, with Planetside 2 and that WWII dogfighting game (forgot the name) on the way. MS can do no right. Sony can do no wrong. 

somebodysilent
somebodysilent

@kb2beast  All of those Ps4 games are indeed free to play. No need for Ps+ unlike the xbone.

mdrieber
mdrieber

I do recall something about not being able to play the games unless youre a ps+ subscriber??

kb2beast
kb2beast

@somebodysilent @kb2beast  Yup because free to play games are all that you play on your PS4 and you wouldn't pay for plus regardless for other MP games and the free games. That argument is stupid.

Butt_Chunx
Butt_Chunx

I am not at all surprised that Micro$oft would support more ways to rip people off.

pharoe777
pharoe777

@Butt_Chunx How is it a rip off ? The program is called "games with gold", it's a perk for having a gold membership.

hina_ken
hina_ken

@pharoe777  That, and it was a perk, not an apology for letting their customers get hacked, time and time again!  LOL.

Oh Sony, and the fanboys that defend you. . .

nyran125tk
nyran125tk

yes you are free to pay anytime. welcome.


They should change the name to.


Free To Pay.


Just sounds cooler and not so criminal and dodgy.

hina_ken
hina_ken

@nyran125tk  I dislike this F2P model and am sad that it is making its way to the consoles.

It has been a selling point of the PS4 and is now being potentially brought to the Xbox One too. . .