Xbox 360, Kinect buoy December sales - Analysts

Pachter pegs Microsoft add-on sales at 3 million last month, console outsold Sony's 2 to 1; Wilson thinks software continued to lag.

2010 has been a difficult year for the gaming industry, and depending on which analyst has the podium, the 365-day period ended anywhere from slight gains to double-digit losses. However, even if the industry as a whole had little to boast of, a handful of the biggest players managed a wholly respectable holiday.

The industry has its (bionic) eye affixed on Kinect sales.

In a note to investors today, Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter offered a cheery projection of December sales, which were led on the hardware side by Microsoft's Xbox 360 and its newly introduced motion-sensing add-on, the Kinect. According to the analyst, the Xbox 360 was the only console to achieve year-over-year sales gains during the period, with Xbox 360 sales rising 91 percent to 2.5 million units during the period.

According to Pachter's estimates, Xbox 360 sales came in just behind Nintendo's Wii, sales of which he believes declined 32 percent to 2.6 million. The PlayStation 3 also saw sales slip from last year, Pachter believes, falling 12 percent to 1.2 million. Pachter believes overall console hardware sales slipped 3 percent, while handheld system sales slipped 24 percent.

Pachter also offered his forecast for accessory sales, which he believes were led by the Kinect. With Microsoft having announced as part of its CES 2011 keynote address that the peripheral had shipped 8 million units worldwide last year, Pachter believes that the actual sell-through figure stood at 7.2 million units worldwide. Of that tally, he believes 3 million Kinects were sold as part of console bundles, 1.8 million of which were picked up by US gamers. He believes an additional 1.2 million stand-alone Kinect units were sold in the US in December.

Turning to software, Pachter believes sales came in at $2.63 million during the period, up 2 percent from the same period in 2009. However, Pachter cautioned that the month's software sales were particularly difficult to estimate due to the Kinect's "surprisingly high volumes," which may have dried up consumers' wallets.

The Wedbush analyst predicted billion-dollar earner Call of Duty: Black Ops added another 3 million units to its total sales tally during December. Other top performers, according to Pachter, were Just Dance 2 (1.3 million), Madden NFL 11 (900,000), Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (900,000), Donkey Kong Country Returns (700,000), and Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (500,000).

Pachter's software predictions could be considered rosy when matched up to Evan Wilson's. According to the Pacific Crest Securities analyst, software sales slipped 10 percent to $2.32 billion in December, due to tough comparisons against last year's Wii lineup as well as continued industry weakness outside of Black Ops.

Wilson noted that while the Kinect had a solid year-end, software sales aren't likely to see a bump until 2011. "In November, Kinect software was only 4 percent of the industry due to a small tie ratio, in part because the hardware comes with a game," he said. "However, given hardware sales and a slate that should improve, software will be more influential once we move into 2011."

On the console front, Wilson predicted that the Xbox 360 may have its best month in the US ever, thanks to heavy promotion from Microsoft and the introduction of the Kinect. However, again, Wilson does not see this impacting software sales for the console, as the bulk of new hardware sales were from existing customers.

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10679
10679

@warhawk-geeby haha yeah. They have seemed to move to this thread lol. Alot action is occurring there : http://asia.gamespot.com/news/6286386.html?tag=recent_news;title;5 Fair enough. I couldn't care less either as i have both consoles . I can just buy games that come out on both consoles . God of war 3 was nothing special for me as well. To me it was a nice looking hack and slash with reused story and a slight added twist because kratos was stupid enough to be gullible three times. I didn't like halo ODST so much but loved halo reach. That game was awesome in my books lol. Swt as. The more the merrier lol. Whats your psn id just so that i know the invitation came from you if you do decide to add me lol

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

@10679 p.p.s I like how we've totally killed this thread :p haha

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

@10679 Dude I'm on about good games coming out this year - that's it. I didn't buy the GOW remakes, I played the demo for GOW3 and didn't see what all the hype was about. I've always thought they're over-rated hack n slash games personally. Halo is kind of getting old though now.. I love the Halo games, always have. But after Halo 3 they just seem to have lost touch. The series needs a completely new direction to go - not just remaking the old ones. I'm just saying that as it stands Sony has a stronger line up. That's it. I'm not going to go off and argue about anything else I'm just stating a point. p.s. I will agree with you on the COD comment however, haha, for that reason alone it would be a pleasure to add you ;)

10679
10679

@warhawk-geeby Lol i have a ps3 and have played and clocked all its exclusives except GT5. I even have the Wii lol. Right now the ps3 is being used for blu ray movies and ps1 games as there no good games for me to play right now. My psn id is dazh0002 if you want to add me lol. I also forgot to mention kingdoms and believe some kinect games will be blockbuster ones like project drac which are done by th e people who did panzer dragoon saga. Regardless of what you think abbot the remake of halo 1` and halo 2 , its still a 360 exclusive and will be easily a charter breaker and a blockbuster one. Its not as bad as throwing out a COD game every year without minor changes apart from slight graphical enhancement. If i remember correctly GOW1 AND 2 was released and redone in 1080p and 60 frames. Using your logic for halo 1 and halo2 remake , that would be milking the god of war series.

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

@10679 No you see you've just listed the same games again. And I've already told you Halo 1 & 2 don't count. Gears of War yes - I'll give you that (The gears games are amazing). And forza 4 as well I guess.. I did think I was talking to someone mature but obviously not going by your final comment. Hmm. Just buy a ps3 and get over yourself.

10679
10679

@warhawk-geeby "'d like Microsoft to prove me wrong I would, but for that they'd have to announce some blockbuster games. Come back to me when Microsoft gets some chart breakers and I'll forgive and forget" Lol really lol. Gears of war3 is easily a blockbuster game or a chartbreaker game. Halo 1 and halo2 remake easily fit that category and so does Forza 4. Once again those kind comment makes you a sony fanboy. There are others as well but teh one mentioned above will outsell all the ps3 exclusives combined lol.

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

@10679 All is fair on here. Opinions are opinions.. And that's all they are. But I shall stand by my comment that Sony have a stronger line up for this year so far - not just in my opinion. It's fact. There's a lot of A class titles set for launch and that's all I'm commenting on. I appreciate that you argue with those that state incorrect facts - they annoy me too. However people are entitled to their opinions on here. If someone made up some bull about sales figures or tech that they genuinly don't know about then I'd be on your side. But I'm just simply saying Sony have a stronger line-up for the year as it stands. I'd like Microsoft to prove me wrong I would, but for that they'd have to announce some blockbuster games. Come back to me when Microsoft gets some chart breakers and I'll forgive and forget ;) Oh an your comment to Evo8u is fair. I completely agree that Kinect is the better technology - there's no point denying it. My only concern is that it's really quite limited in terms of the games you can play. Give it time though and I'm sure things will get better.. Maybe a kinect2 on the 720? Haha :p

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@10679 Good to know we agree on some things, lol I'm surprised Kinect's doing so well because it's not much more then a glorified PS2 eyetoy which didn't get that many sales.Depends on the users I suppose.I must admit I found Kinect enjoyable with my mates though.

DuaneDog
DuaneDog

xbox 360 selling 2 to 1 over the PS3 is tough to believe. May have been the Kinect that really sealed the deal there. I didn't know what to expect when it came out but I'm truely shocked at how well it works and how little lag there is. Now we need the integration with hardcore games and the controller to make it really worth having for serious gamers.

10679
10679

@warhawk-geeby "You can label me a fanboy all you like, go for it. I'm just leaving my comments. But in return I'd like to say that you must also be a fanboy to be reacting like you are - why else would you personally respond to every comment on here that so much as whispers a bad thing about the xbox." I only comment wen people dis a consoles when they either don't own or haven't tried it. Same goes with kinect. I only reply when people say its really bad without trying it and also will only reply when people try to pass their opinion as fact.

10679
10679

@warhawk-geeby "P.S. Guaranteed this is going to get deleted due to somebody taking 'offence'. Tssk." Don't worry as i won't do it. I find people who do are childish and need to grow up. "Sorry man but I've got to disagree. Don't take this all to heart I'm just making a point. Microsoft can be as secretive as they like but as it stands Sony have the better exclusives set for release - most people would agree with that." Its fine to disagree with me as thats your opinion. What i don't like is the fact that you are trying to pass your opinion as fact. Those who agree are mostly fanboys. Like i said earlier , your personal preferences in games doesn't equal everyones else and is certainly not fact. Right now sony has more exclusives than MS but were there better quality than MS is purely your opinion. "Oh and if you 'regret' buying a Playstation then just sell it and get a Blu-ray player in it's place " The reason why i am keeping because i am the type of gamer that enjoys games therefore owning all consoles allows me to do that . Right nw there is no game on the ps3 that captures my interest but there will be at the end of the year with unchartered 3.

10679
10679

@Evo8u That article is not very accurate because Xbox 360 sales in america has reached 30million which is alot more than 19mil predicted on that link. I would have to agree with MEDzZ3RO about ps3 selling more in EMEAA . The gap is 2million as of now but its decreasing . @MEDzZ3RO You do know that those are just estimates and since they are human , mistakes can occur. I do agree however with the fact that the ps3 did outsell the 360 in 2009 as thats the year the slim came out. Since then the 360 has been outselling it as the gap widen back to 5 million from 3million in 2009 when the slim came out. The reason why Kinect is boosting Xbox 360 sales because the tech itself is innovative and something new. The idea of no controller captured peoples interest coupled with word of mouth and massive advertising budget. For the move , people saw as the HD version of the wii controller with slight accuracy bump therefore it didn't do as well as the kinect.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@Evo8u It's not fanboy-ism as I do not work for VGChartz in any form what so ever; I don't deal with their figures. Vgchartz have proven accurate over the years so unless it's a technical hiccup chances are somewhere along the lines retail figures have been mistaken for consumer purchases. Vgchartz is a reliable source unlike the link you've given me. You do realise it doesn't make much differance to me, I own all 3 systems. You seem to think I'm "Mr PS3" so to speak.

digi-demon
digi-demon

@Hordaak peeing contests - main reason for manufacturer defense is no-one wants to be 'un-cool' and be the ones backing the 'losing' horse... Only worthwhile reason for being the owner of the most popular console is you can 'usually' be happy in the fact that publishers will continue to provide software long into its lifecycle... Oh BTW, do you know She-rah? LOL, I hate fan-boys....o_O... Xbox FTW! ;)

hordaak
hordaak

so you defend the crap out of your console, and say the other console sucks...which neither of the 3 consoles suck..at all. BUT since you can't afford the other one, you have to put it down. well, mr. fanboy, lets say your system does well and sells a crapload...how do you benefit??? oh, you dont benefit? well, do what I did. I bought a whole crapload of microsoft stock. when they do well, i benefit because I make money. so yeah, you could say I'm pulling for microsoft. but I have a good reason for it. and looking back at the fanboy battles through the years, the only winner really was everyone...everyone except you...mr lonely fanboy.

hordaak
hordaak

ohhhh snap. Im 37, married with kids, but I still play video games now and then. I have all 3 systems right now, but play my XBOX 360 the most. I like the controls better and the graphics seem cleaner on the multiplatform games I play. Anyways, this "fanboyism" just cracks me up. When I grew up, the atari came out and a couple years later "intellivision" came out. I remember arguing on the bus which system was better (atari). Then it was Colecovision vs. intellivision vs. vectrex vs. atari 5200. then the market crashed. then it was nintendo nes vs. sega master system. then it was genesis vs. turbographix vs. supernintendo...a couple of systems came and went during these times...atari jaguar, 3D0...then the sony playstation, sega saturn...nintendo 64...and so on. the fanboy arguments were in full force then, but wow, not as bad as nowadays. anyways, when you get older, you realize you can make MONEY and buy all 3 consoles. thats when it hits you that you only were a fanboy because you couldn't afford to have the "other" console.

Evo8u
Evo8u

@medzz3ro You r clueless it was just reported a few weeks ago 360 is ahead in Europe by about 3 million units and in US by like 8 million. Take ur fanboyism and lies out of here. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/ps3-vs-xbox360-sales.html these numbers r a bit off in the US by 4 million units to low, but Europe's r accurate. U can find this on the net any place u look Japan is the only place ps3 out sells 360 its fact.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@ash2197 Yes you are wrong and here's my proof: http://www.vgchartz.com/hw_annual_summary.php That's a year on year hardware totals. Last 2 years the PS3 has been outselling the 360.The only year the PS3 did badly was the year it released; that gap of sales that year has never closed but every other year the PS3 has been within 1 million units or even outsold the 360 each year;take a look. It's closer then alot of people seem to realise.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@Evo8u America's the only region where the 360 is outselling the PS3. Naturally because it is American no doubt. In Europe the PS3 has almost always outsold the 360 yearly. Again as I said to 1067 look on Vgchartz.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@10679 It's not just personal opinion as such coming from the majority of professional game reviewers.We all disagree with them on most occasions but you can't argue the toss that what they say goes. Take a look on yearly sales on VGChartz; you may be surprised to see salewise that the PS3 has beaten the 360 in worldwide sales the last 2 years since exclusives have picked up It's no coincidence..Kinect's boosting 360 sales at the moment which also proves somebody elses point lower down that as a platform the 360 appears to have more casual or younger gamers when compared to the more mature market the PS3 generally appeals to. I have no idea how my post was offensive either, lol.

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

@10679 Sorry man but I've got to disagree. Don't take this all to heart I'm just making a point. Microsoft can be as secretive as they like but as it stands Sony have the better exclusives set for release - most people would agree with that. As for including the re-makes of Halo 1 and 2 in your list that's just desperatism. The original Halo games were and still are awesome, there's no need to re-do them. Infact I'm almost tempted to put the words milking and halo in a sentence together. You can label me a fanboy all you like, go for it. I'm just leaving my comments. But in return I'd like to say that you must also be a fanboy to be reacting like you are - why else would you personally respond to every comment on here that so much as whispers a bad thing about the xbox. Oh and if you 'regret' buying a Playstation then just sell it and get a Blu-ray player in it's place - it doesn't take a genius and no-one is asking you to keep it. I've played a great amount of time on both consoles and would say that my comments are fair. Sony has a stronger year lined up at the moment and as you say 'fact is fact'. This isn't opinion, just look at the games coming out. If Microsoft announce more A rated games then fair enough I shall retract my statement, but as it stands you know I'm right. P.S. Guaranteed this is going to get deleted due to somebody taking 'offence'. Tssk.

Psychokillaz
Psychokillaz

I like game of the year Demon's Soul. Nothing out there like it

demonkingx5
demonkingx5

@10679 i have not got any lag on any of those & some of those games run on p2p severs

10679
10679

@MEDzZ3RO Just realized one of your post got removed lol. Didn't see how that was offensive lol. "You prefering Gears Of War 3 to any PS3 exclusive (before it's out which is bizarre because it could be full of flaws for all we know) is out and out opinion. Same way as my personal TPS preferance stands with MGS4, Vanquish and Uncharted." I could say the same thing to the sony fanboys who will claim that unchartered 3 and killzone 3 are the gods of gaming lol "The Year; these are so called gaming experts who can get it wrong but generally know there stuff. It's alot closer to fact then you'd like to admit.Based on prequels, which is what I did chances suggest both Uncharted 3 and Little Big Planet 2 will get higher overall ratings then Gears Of War 3. Forza 4 is the real scorer of the 360 exclusives with its prequel getting damn near perfect scores." Thats still personal preferences. For e.g. In this Game of the year award , i disagree with RDR winning it as that game is extremely boring to me. That is why i never buy games based solely on reviews from this expert. There were plenty of games from this site and many gaming sites where they give it a bad score because they were not at it or a bit to hard from them and as result it got a bad mark which i think its totally bogus.

10679
10679

@MEDzZ3RO "Exclusives sell systems, hence why the Wii and PS2 have continued to do well; it's also why the PS3 has outsold the 360 the last 2 years (since it's exclusives got stronger). It's also why 360 sales have rissen lately because of Kinect being exclusive to the system." Ps2 was very popular because if piracy. Heck thats the main reason why i bought it. Could get every single that ever got released on the ps2 because of it.What year was that. The only time the ps3 actually outsold the xbox 350 was when the slim came out and thats when the gap decreased to 3 million. Since then the 360 has been doing better than the ps3 hence why the gap ahas increased to 5 million. Proof is vgchartz. LOL @ your last paragraph because thats opinion not fact. The main reason is most probably because of the fan in which MW2 had created when the game out.

JulianBeamen420
JulianBeamen420

@Blacklace Uncharted 2 eon GOTY 2009 at Spike VGA's. Its doesnt matter if it didnt win GOTY on Gamespot its till won GOTY for 2009. Get ur facts straight.

misterstatus
misterstatus

I think Sony's "It only does everything" marketing approach for the PS3 has been a mistake. When someone claims they can do everything, you usually think they must be mediocre at everything they do. As the saying goes, "Jack of all trades, master of none". Look at the Wii. It barely does anything, yet it has sold more than the PS3 and the 360 combined. I know there's a big push from Sony and Microsoft to turn consoles into complete home media centers, but if PS3 sales are any indication, consumers don't seem too interested. The gaming industry needs to get its focus back on games where it belongs. Nintendo seems to be the only company that understands this.

ash2197
ash2197

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ash2197
ash2197

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Evo8u
Evo8u

@medzz3ro get ur facts straight man the only reason the ps3 has outsold 360 for 2 yrs r because of Japanese market were 360 sales suck, Which has nothing to do with exclusives because Sony could sell better than the 360 in Japan with only 30 games because the Japanese don't like American products other than Apple crap.

Evo8u
Evo8u

@copman221 ah I never said that I'm not going.to play hardcore games, those r the.core games I play but I also enjoy casual games as well. That is what being a hardcore gamer is all about playing everything and own all systems. I can also guarantee u that it won't become a 150 dollar paperweight it will have big support. People r also forgetting that the cam can be incorporated with games that use the regular controller. God I hate haters.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@10679 Exclusives sell systems, hence why the Wii and PS2 have continued to do well; it's also why the PS3 has outsold the 360 the last 2 years (since it's exclusives got stronger). It's also why 360 sales have rissen lately because of Kinect being exclusive to the system. Exclusivity is the seller all be it from games or other software; it has a massive effect on sales. Whenever a new Halo or Gran Turismo comes along each respective system flies off the shelves.If it's not that important like you suggest why do Sony and Microsoft fork out so much cash to try and retain exclusivity and longterm contracts. We all knew Black Ops would top Modern Warfare 2; MW2 was a step back from CoD 4. IW as a whole didn't improve alot from Cod 4 to MW2, unlike Treyarch who have improved massively from game to game: CoD 3 - WaW - Black Ops. People were bored of WW2 so as soon as Black Ops wasn't set in WW2 it was an instant hit not to mention bringing back modding tools and dedicated servers on PC and a fully fledged Wii edition. Analysts focused too much on the developpers and not the game itself that's why they misjudged it. I was 90% sure it'd do better; you'll have to take my word for it because I have no proof of that.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

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10679
10679

@IceJester45 Its the way you worded it lol. Its algd though.

IceJester45
IceJester45

@10679, I was never under the impression that my opinion was fact.

10679
10679

@IceJester45 "Overall, I'd have to agree with the PS3 fans that, right now, it definitely looks like the PS3 will have a better selection of traditional, sure-fire AAA hits. Things could change when X11 rolls around, though." As mentioned in my earlier post , that opinion ain't fact. For example i prefer gears of war 3 over any of the ps3 exclusives the ps3 fans have mentioned. Is that fact... no , its just my opinion. Regardless of that , it doesn't matter how many exclusives the ps3 has over the 360 because those exclusives don't have that much of an impact compared to the few MS has. That has clearly been seen last year with halo reach.

10679
10679

@MEDzZ3RO Once your opinion of ps3 exclusives hell alot better than the 360 ones is your opinion not fact. If you think that they are alot better , than good for ya . There are others like me who would think other wise. Out of the list of those games you have mentioned, the only one that i am keen to play on my ps3 is unchartered 3. you also forgot kingdoms from crytek studios. "even if a Halo was out next year with it's new developpers it couldn't top the sequel to both the 2008 and 2009 " That was said with treyarch studios when they were making COD black ops. Many believe that it won't top MW2. We all know now that it will. The new halo team is most likely 343 studios that did halo on the pc , which received good reviews. Its possible for them to make a game just as good as the ones made by bungie.

10679
10679

@MEDzZ3RO "Lag on Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2?; you must have terrible connection. I live in the middle of nowhere with 0.9 meg and still don't experience any noticable lag 99% of the time on either of those games. The same goes for MAG. As for PES and Haze I have no idea." I am from NZ which is as far as middle nowhere you can get. Over there there is so much more lag on those ps3 games compared the ones you suffer on xbox live. Xbox live thee seems to be lag free where i am from. You do know mass effect 2 ain't a exclusive to any platform anymore lol. "360 scratched 2 discs beyond use through a loose disc tray and eventually broke 1 month after purhase because of "hardware problems". We naturally sold the replacement." I guess you have bad luck with your 360. i had mine from the console launch and it lasted 5 years without any repair before it died. There is two ways in which you can scratch your disk, one is what you have said which is according to MS is a very rare problem to get and the most common one which MS says is moving the machine while disk is spinning. Thats the only problem MS won't fix for ya because of the second problem being human error.

IceJester45
IceJester45

@10679, Ruffian, the developer of Crackdown 2, said they're working on a few new titles. Likewise, Remedy, the team behind Alan Wake and Max Payne, said they're working on a new AAA title. Many are speculating that it's an Xbox 360 exclusive. Even without those games, though, the 360 does have a few exclusives. Gears 3 and Forza 4 are the obvious ones, but the 360's 2011 also includes Otomedius Excellent and Gun Loco. Further, the system is slated to have console exclusivity on a few titles, including XCOM, The First Templar, Tropico 4, and Jane Jensen's Gray Matter. The really interesting stuff, in my opinion, is hitting Kinect and XBLA, though. I'm looking forward to Project Draco, Haunt, Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor, Hybrid, Dust: An Elysian Tail, Bangai-O HD, and Radiant Silvergun HD. Overall, I'd have to agree with the PS3 fans that, right now, it definitely looks like the PS3 will have a better selection of traditional, sure-fire AAA hits. Things could change when X11 rolls around, though.

jb9776
jb9776

@awheaten Video games are a hobby that we gamers feel passionate about, like people who collect stamps or build cars. But there must be other things in ones life that also inspire passion so that you have balance in life. understand, i have over 300 games between 8 different consoles, some from this generation some from older generations so i love games and am passionate about my hobby. But my hobby doesn't define me because there's more to life than that ,even other hobbies. There's film, traveling, and WOMEN lol. But thats just me speaking for myself.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@10679 MS haven't announced any notable exclusive except Gears Of War 3 and Forza 4; even if a Halo was out next year with it's new developpers it couldn't top the sequel to both the 2008 and 2009 GOTY (for a alot of sites and reviewers) in LBP 2 and Uncharted 3; that's without mentioning Killzone 3 , Resistance 3, Mass Effect 2 or Infamous 2 . MS would need some mega announcements to top that and off the top of my head I can't think of any notable exclusive they could possibly announce for this year other then them.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

@10679 Lag on Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2?; you must have terrible connection. I live in the middle of nowhere with 0.9 meg and still don't experience any noticable lag 99% of the time on either of those games. The same goes for MAG. As for PES and Haze I have no idea. On the same connection me and my brother can't even play Halo or Gears Of War because it kicks us out of the servers after being in the game 2-5 min; remember we've payed £40 a year for this. To top it off the 360 scratched 2 discs beyond use through a loose disc tray and eventually broke 1 month after purhase because of "hardware problems". We naturally sold the replacement. Touch wood the 4 year old PS3 and 5 year old PS3 we have hasn't had any problem to date.Same goes for the 6 year old Wii not that it's had much use lately.

10679
10679

@demonkingx5 I don't know. When i played home , killzone 2 online , unchartered 2 online and PES online, haze , i got horrible lag which i haven't experienced using Xbox live.

10679
10679

@awheaten You have to remember that ps3 is still advertised with a slogan saying ps3 only does everything. Sony promised people with all this features when they brought it out , but later removes it which pissed off a lot of people. Before then with backwards compatibility and linux, that slogan would be true but now its not . Thats the main reason why the ps3 got hacked. "And we, being the idiots we are, will buy them, maybe I should speak for myself." Lol same. I bought the god of war collection adn will most likely by the and shadow of the colossus collection.

10679
10679

@warhawk-geeby Sony fanboy much.. Easy Forza 4 , gears of war 3, kingdoms, project draco and the possible remake of halo 1 and 2. "I'm sorry but as it stands Sony have a MUCH better line-up so far, and they aren't "japanese crap" as someone so wrongly said" Just because sony has revealed their line up and MS hasn't , it doesn't mean that sony has a better lineup than MS. As we all know MS loves to be secretive and only reveal games when they think its necessary to reveal. Secondly how can you be so sure that all the sony"s line up will be released this year ? Did you ever considered delays which could push teh release window to 2012. "The Playstation is for the older gamer offering much more for your money. The xbox on the otherhand is now 'family focused' which xbox lovers hate to admit." Wow how did you come up with this theory. Let me guess...... its your own opinion and you are passing it as fact and want everyone to believe that. Sorry to burst your sony fanboy bubble , but opinion does not equal fact. Opinion is opinion is opinion and fact is fact. I hope you can understand that . I got both machines and i regret buying the ps3 because i after i clocked all the good ps3 exclusives , there was noting to play now and nw my ps3 is collecting dust and is sometimes used to play blu ray movies.

RitsukoEX
RitsukoEX

@JulianBeamen420 Kid! did you ever played a Xbox360 before? because you can download Xbox and Xbox360 games off Xboxlive!

PixelAddict
PixelAddict

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awheaten
awheaten

@10679 When you speak of backwards compatiblity, you have to think about how much money Sony is loosing by adding it. Also, you have to think about what they're doing right now. Sony is both making money and using the current technology to replace backwards compatibility. Look at the releases coming from Sony. Look at the god of War collection and the upcoming shadows of collosis and other ps2 hd releases. Eventually, Sony is going to pretty much release all of the ps2 games in HD. Thats just how Sony is going to make their money. The bottom line is making money off these video games. And we, being the idiots we are, will buy them, maybe I should speak for myself.

oneligas
oneligas

Still waiting for a M rated game on Kinect before i buy one

IceJester45
IceJester45

@JulianBeamen420, You can still download original Xbox titles on Xbox 360 through LIVE.