What We'd Like to See in the Next Fallout

No one else wants another fallout tactics game? Maybe with some more factions thrown in.? Would love to see a fallout strategy game..

I really hate it when writers and critics put Fallout 3 and New Vegas together when praising one of them. Seriously, one of them is a buggy but interesting 3D take on world of Fallout with decent dialogue and some fine humor while the other is the failed FPS project made by Bethesda.

Do NOT lump these 2 together. New Vegas at least TRIED to respect Fallout 1-2 along with their atmosphere, dialogues and choices. Fallout 3? Misguided attempt by people who mostly didn't understand a single thing about originals.

I speak only for myself, and the handful of fellow old, spazzy, gamers when I say that I much prefer that they keep the controls as they are. I have attempted to play The Witcher 2 a few times, but because the control setup doesn't give any clues as to how to use the various potion/sword combos, unless you play the immensely buggy trainer beginning, ( I admit it's been a while; did they ever fix the "Block" glitch, where if mess up you're stuck in there with no way to advance? That's where I quit trying and just started the main game instead, but of course I don't know how to do much of anything, so I've just stopped playing)

Anyway, as you can tell, I am not the gamer Bethesda is trying to please, certainly. From Morrowind to Skyrim, and both FPS Fallouts, I knew as soon as I started that I'd be comfortable with the controls, and could easily manipulate everything in the game, with almost no hand-holding.

Not to mention that we older gamers usually like the exploration at least as much as the combat, so the massive gameworlds are what makes me love to replay all of them to this day.(Presently playing Oblivion because I've never finished it; my "Media Center" PC had such a lame excuse for a GPU that it couldn't handle a certain end-game battle protecting a certain NPC, even at the lowest resolutions/graphics levels. Now, I'm enjoying a gtx 780-powered rig pushing 1440p res. so I really am enjoying the game, for the first time!)

Turn-based, Turn-based, Turn-based, Turn-based, Turn-based, Turn-based, Turn-based, Turn-based, Turn-based, Fruck your silly consoles.

I really don't like what Kevin VanOrd is trying to do with one of my fav series. Ok, the companion thing, yes. Totally agree. They should be smarter and more engaging. Leave my V.A.T.S. alone. I'm fine with improvements, but scrapping it would be a mistake. Make it smoother and more fluid. It's one of their signature things and it's fun to watch bullets slow-mo towards an enemy's cranium. I wish the level cap was higher. Give me a chance to get 2 or 3 more perks than I normally could. That is small potatoes, though. My point is that I believe the series is fine as it and his main problems with the game could actually be solved by the next-gen hardware. It's more capable of handling the emotions and personalities that he's looking for. It could also give him the visuals he hopes to see. I am hoping that Bethesda uses the new hardware to its max and we get a truly futuristic Fallout 4 experience.

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I want to see co-op so i can share the fun with friends in huge spaces of Fallout!

Fallout games are really good how they are. I would like companions to work better, and for them to combine some of the aspects from both 3 and NV. Also the sound tracks are already amazing, though they could be expanded for the radio stations.

I also think this guy is confused. When people say it's Oblivion or Skyrim with guns. What they mean, if they aren't joking about it, is how you can roam around and explore a vast world while shooting and killing things. It isn't filled with high quality pre-rendered backgrounds like most shooters. This is something most shooters don't have. They may have large arenas more or less but that is about it. Some are exceptions but most aren't. Also people are talking about the story and some of the quests and such as well.

Most shooters have a story of some badass military guy fighting a war himself, and that is about it. Fallout actually has a lot happening in the game world. It also has quests that are different and interesting.

Also I kind of like using VATS you get some wonderful slow motion kill animations.

This article should be entitled "What I'd like to see in the next Fallout" because a lot of the ideas you have are things most Fallout fans would not agree with. It's like you are asking for a reboot of the series, I want very little to change, just improvements to what's already there as I love it as is.

Camping out anywhere would be awful. On my 9th or 10th playthrough of Fallout 3 I skipped Megaton and just roamed around. I had so much fun being a homeless drug addict searching for a place to sleep. It gave my game purpose and added to that sense of loneliness and desperation of the Capital Wasteland. I like playing til I can find a bed to sleep in.

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I am a big fan of Fallout 3 and New Vegas and I agree the gunplay and hand to hand combat could be a little more fluid. I rarely use VATS so if they do away with that element I wouldn't miss it at all. I think the new location should be in Orlando, Fl. The ruins of Disney's theme parks, Sea World and Universal Studio's would make a great post apocalyptic back drop. Plus not that far away you would have the ruins of NASA at Cape Kennedy. What does New Orleans have but Bourbon Street and the Bayou. Florida has the same critters as Louisiana plus more hazards. We have Alligators, Giant snake, poisonous snakes, poisonous spiders Lightning, Sharks, sinkholes, hurricanes, tornadoes, killer jellyfish, skunk apes, rednecks, Canadians. Hell it's like Fallout 4 down here already

"What We'd Like to See in the Next Fallout" Dude, It should've been what Kevin VanBald likes to ramble about next Fallout. "We" is a plural pronoun and refers to gamers, to people with different tastes. It's so dumb and annoying to generalize like this.

COMPLETELY disagree. Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas DO have their own unique entity which needs not to be changed on a basic level. And their blend of real time vs. tactical combat works perfectly well and needs no step back (!) to boring overhead view. Yeach!

What needs improvement indeed are the rather poor graphics 3 and New Vegas both shared. Plus details like the Pip Boy should get an overhaul. But otherwise changing something deeply satisfying just for the sake of changing it is absolutely stupid and I hope Bethesda will not listen to that bullshit.

I agree that New Orleans would be a cool setting. I also agree that it would be nice if companions interacted more often without me prompting them.

Other than those two things, I disagree with everything else in the article. I like the format of the game, and don't care that it copies The Elder Scrolls formula. I don't want the combat to change. Mostly, I buy these games for the immersion, for the story. I put at least a hundred hours into each of the last two, and at least another hundred into Skyrim.

TLDR: Keep the gameplay/format the same, but change the setting and give me more lore, and I'll be a happy camper.

Just deliver all the lore through voice acted characters instead of computer text. If I wanted to read that much I'd pick up a book.

Agreed with all of the above!

And I feel the need to state: single player is GREAT, especially in such a desolate waste land...please don't make it Fallout Online. Please no.

When this comes out I will consider upgrading my 360 to a PS4 or Xbox one.........

Better animations and less bugs, that's all i want !

What if VATS worked like a timed auto-aim? Keep the momentary pause to set VATS, and use Action Points to adjust the period of time it's affecting aim. After that brief moment, you go on shooting like a shooter, but VATS assists your aim on the specific body part you selected. Again, once your AP run(s) out, VATS requires a cool down just like in the previous game. This mode of combat would become even more tactical/strategic if ammo was scarce (like Bioshock). The downside, though, is how this would work for melee approaches.

It'd be a nice compromise if they allowed two modes of playing: tactical (like F1,F2, and Tactics) or FPS (like F3 & NV). If they (Zenimax, Bethesda, etc.) spent so long on TESO, why not spend the time to make both options available in F4? Then everyone could be happy.

Finally, heighten the moral ambiguity more. F3 was (IMO) too dichotomous--good or evil. The decisions hardly weighed on you that much, and could easily be deciphered as good or bad. With that said, too much ambiguity might ruin the true trademark of Fallout--dark humor. Certainly, it's no easy thing to stage a decision as a Catch 22 but also slightly funny (in a dark and twisted way).

Oh, and 'The Legion' for New Vegas was a pretty cheap copy-pasta of the Elder Scrolls. The Romans aren't in the scene, nor are they particularly cool or awesome. They look cheap and silly.

What made Fallout 2 astonishing, at least for me, was the Enclave. The remnants of the U.S. Government with a sinister and devious plan on what to do with the "new" world. I don't want to fight alongside NCR, I hate the NCR and I hate the Legion. NCR killed Cassidy back in the day, and I'll never forgive them.

I for once would like to actually be a brigand, a robber, a kidnapper, waylayer, bandit or highway brute. A non black/white character but a mix, a shade of gray - a person who does what he can to survive without some silly baggage hanging over him. I'd like to ambush travelers on the road, and get fun encounters out of it.

What I don't want is 6000 charactes all voiced by the same people, and copy-pasta encounters like in Skyrim, where you meet 500 prisoners escorted by legionaires, and when you arm the person he just runs off. End of scene.

It sure is nice that they can make so much space to explore, with seemingly as little content to fill it as possible,

Why base the combat on the one or the other? Why not give us the ability to pick the style we prefer? I myself would like to actually kill other characters with a headshot regardless of weapon, as would be realistic and rather go with a more traditional shooter-like approach. Pad the heavies with melee weapons up with whatever armor they can find to make them harder to one-shot, but make it realistic. Just make sure to give me the ability to get into cover as well as available armor I can get my hands on to survive if I ever want to play post-apocalyptic-knight-man.

Then you could just "flip a switch" if you want to play traditional VATS-style with enemies having "HP" instead.

To be honest, I'm getting so sick and tired of shooting people repeatedly, both in Skyrim and Fallout, in the face with crossbows or shotguns, before they finally fall over. It really KILLS the immersion, seriously.

What I would like to see from fallout4 is a release date,

honestly a game like this would do well with a cover system ,not quite like Gears of War but it should take a few ques from it,also the weapon list from New Vegas (after all Dlcs and Expansions )would be a good place to start for weapon variety .

And Most of all they NEED to quit using the same engine they've been using since the dawn of time ,it doesn't matter how much you rewrite it it's still too limited they either need to A.build a whole new engine from the ground up with no traces of the previous ones or B.use something like the Snowdrop engine or Unreal 4 hell I don't care pick one there are a ton of better engines than what they're using.

1080p 60fps.

That's a good start...Oh wait, This isn't exclusive title is it?

-Better animations

-Co-Op

-screen shots

-release date

-a pack that comes with Fallout 3 and New Vegas remastered

My wishlist for Fallout 4:

1. Announce and date the motherfucking game.

The 3 main things I see as problems with Fallout (from my experience in Fallout 3 and NV)

+ I know the game is called "Fallout", but the environment still felt drab. If you're gonna make the environment 1 color, you better make the rest of the game perfect.

+The clunky, stiff animations. The characters need to feel more weighty and real.

+ The combat didn't feel as seamless as I would have liked. When developers choose this middle ground between turn-based and active combat, as a character you are constantly stop-and-go and that is slightly annoying. Also, about 95% of the time I found myself just aiming at their head with VATS and that felt too easy. (especially aboard the mothership dlc)

Better 3rd person animations and camera. The Fallout series have the worst character animations out of all the games I own and the 3rd person camera is God awful. Great game play and storyline but those two features are where the Fallout games have always fallen short.

Vehicles that are created, modded and driven by you, an ally or enemy. (with mountable gun of course!)
More AI personalities, especially in combat, so combat stays diversive.

More monsters, mutations and factions.

More paths to take, and a better action-reaction system when making decisions. (also more options for making decisions!)
New power armors, weapons, and anything crafting-related.
The possibility to change the storyline dramatically, for example you manage to make peace between 2 factions which originally wasn't going to happen.
A way to craft weapons with mutliple guns on them.
I would like to see Europe, as most likely, the fight would still be there. USA and China were nuked, but nothing is said about the in-between, and most likely some of the nuclear damage may have taken it's toll there, but mostly the remaining armies of China and USA would have fled there to take control of the last place that would have habitable life and areas. Also, this would mean a significant amount of wildlife in that area.
More stimulants. More kinds of foods/beverages.
The possibility to own properties in the wasteland, and to own a well-earning business amongst populated towns and cities, as a positive example. A negativ example would be slavery, selling out people to authorities (Enclave?), and destroying places.
A save load that will import your character with better graphics, and also the advantages/consequences in the choices you made in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
Tamed Deathclaws that you can ride.
A way more advanced Pip-Boy.
More dialogues, more interactions, and more 18+ please.

~HollowCaused.

I think I speak for everyone when I say in Fallout 4 I would like to see:

1.) Driveable vehicles.

2.) Errol Morris's Interrotron (...sounds Fallout-y. Don't you think?)

3.) And the scavenging and scrounging ramped up to "scrouvenging" levels.

it sounds to me that Kevin wants the game to be made by bioware and not beth and who ever. i myself have only played fallout 3 and NV so i don't know how good the early ones were. to me there is nothing wrong with copying a really good model of a game like TES and making the fallout games in that image. IMO they have changed it enough that it is not all that similar.

some of the changes that kevin is suggesting are not what the new game needs a turn based combat would be a step backwards. going full FPS would also kill this game as some of us like to play IN THE THIRD PERSON . switching from exploration to turn based or some kind of top down tactical combat i think would kill the immersion and make you unsure of just what your playing but that is just me.

now as for the good i think nail on the head with the new Orleans setting as that place has some of the most unique culture in the USA and some of the most colourfull music especially from the fifties. so i agree it would be a cool place to walk around killing things and because of the nature in the bayou i can see a bunch of new creatures being in a game that takes place from there. i think Boston is to close to D.C. so it would be very similar to fallout 3 at least in what kind of monsters would be around.

i also agree that the game should be bigger and any comments about the next gen consoles will make it a likely hood is just stupid as both tes 4 and 5 were massive and on last gen tech and 3 was massive and on even older tech so its more likely it has to do with time allotted to make the thing . i also would like to see better char inter action so we will see

"The nostalgic Fallout fan in me longs for isometric exploration and turn-based strategic combat, but I believe that the console-driven world in which we live precludes the possibility." So then...go play Wasteland 2 or any of the other two million so-called RPGs being dumped into existence by way of Kickstarter. Fallout came out of the tactical combat isometric closet - something that has it's roots in the way crappy role players played games like D&D, more like tactical combat board games than real role playing games - thanks to Fallout 3. It turned into an open world, first person view, action/aventure game, which is (probably) the best way to adapt the spirit of pen & paper RPGs to a computer version. In fact, when trying to play Fallout 1 and 2 I wondered where the hell (except the Fallout Bible) was that unmistakable Fallout spirit that I so cherished in the later games. It isn't there in Fallout 1 and 2, except in the intros narrated by Ron Perlam and in bits of text. You can't see it, you can't hear it, you can't feel it, you can only fantasy it. If you think you can you are leading yourself to believe in fairy tales. In computer games, unlike P&P RPGs, imagination shouldn't have to carry all the weight. The less weight it carries, the better, in fact. Until someone comes up with a best way to do it, there's no need fo r a big change. And no, the answer most definitely is NOT tactical combat in isometric perspective, that's just some silly notion in the minds of old nerds and young hipsters. Let Fallout alone, please!

1 - Hardcore mode, updated and expanded. The last one (New Vegas) is good, but can be even better (and harder).

2 - A bazilion of Easter Eggs =)

3 - Better UI, Inventory and ally management.

4 - Don't make the game easier adding better quest trackers or helpers. Or turn it off in Hardcore mode.

I think Fallout was total crap.

I would absolutely cringe if they made it into an all out shooter. It was nice being able to just shoot when necessary, or choose VATS when you had more time.

what is it with GS reviewers always wanting to change massively popular games such as GTA and Fallout, to that point that they wouldn't even be the same game anymore? shut up with all the changes and let them do what they do best.

don't change anything about Fallout!!! People love Fallout 3 and New Vegas just the way they were. GIve us the same style of game, fix all the bugs, improve the graphics and map size (which shouldn't be a problem now with next gen consoles) and give us a new setting to spend months exploring. I've heard rumors of vehicles being attainable in the new one...I pray to god there's not. If the new Fallout graphics and gameplay are even as smooth as Skyrim, I'll be happy. That will even be a massive improvement over the prior two games.