Titanfall will have free/paid DLC and season pass

Titanfall developer Respawn's Vince Zampella talked with GameSpot in our latest episode of The Lobby about Reddit leaks, DLC, season passes, and more.

In today's episode of our weekly live show The Lobby, Respawn's co-founder talked with GameSpot editors Danny O'Dwyer and Peter Brown and answered questions from our community (you) about his company's upcoming game Titanfall.

Zampella was non-committal about the recent Reddit leaks (which included images of ziplines and heavy turrets) saying, "I haven't read it all, so I can't say if some of it's incorrect or not. But at some point you just have to throw up your arms and say, 'Alright, you got us. It is what it is.'"

Later on, when asked what Zampella would do if he had a Titan in real life, he jokingly replied, "I would step on the guy that leaked all our...no wait [laughs]."

We'd also heard that the game may include a season pass, which Zampella confirmed. "We're going to do paid DLC. We're also going to do free updates. There are things that we want in the game that we didn't get to ship in the final game. So we'll add private matches and things like that for free. There will be some paid DLC. We're going to do a season pass just because if you buy it up front, it's a deal. We're not going to do microtransactions. You just buy it up front, and you get a better price."

"There are things that we want in the game that we didn't get to ship in the final game. So we'll add private matches and things like that for free."

Regarding the game's multiplayer campaign: "You play it from both sides. It's a short experience meant to be a couple hours on each side, and then you never have to touch it again. You can replay it, but you don't have to. You can go right into multiplayer."

For the Xbox 360 version (which is being handled by a separate studio, Bluepoint Games), Zampella mentioned that they're aiming to bring the same experience to Xbox 360 that will exist on Xbox One and PC: "That's the goal. The game's obviously not done yet. They're doing a port of our game, so as we come in hot, we just certified our day one patch, so they have to take that and integrate it into their game, so they're naturally lagging behind us. The goal is to get to get it as close as possible; it obviously won't be exact since it's on a less-powerful system."

But that doesn't necessarily mean Xbox 360 owners will get the same long-term support in terms of upgrades and patches. Zampella said, "We'll have to sit down with EA and talk about that. My assumption is yes, but I don't know if I'm the best person to speak for that."

But the big question looming over the game is how the servers will hold up, especially after the long-running problems that continue to affect another of EA's high-profile shooters: Battlefield 4. Zampella said, "I think it falls on Microsoft, but it also falls on us because at the end of the day, it's our game. It's not just Microsoft's problem, it's our problem. We take it very seriously, and while we hope that doesn't happen...I like how you say it's a forgone conclusion, 'When' it happens...I think it'll depend on how we respond. I think we need to respond quickly and communicate to people what's happening and let them know why and when it'll be fixed."

Titanfall is set to launch on March 11 for Xbox One and PC and on March 25 for Xbox 360.

Justin Haywald is a senior editor at GameSpot, and you can follow him on Twitter @JustinHaywald Got a news tip or want to contact us directly? Email news@gamespot.com

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UKFX
UKFX

Prepare to get milked chumps.


kidnatural
kidnatural

Word on the streets is that it's fun to hate. Not buying because it has DLC? Most games have DLC. Gamespot commenters consider themselves Gamers; so, I can't help but wonder exactly which games they're actually buying...


It's starting to sound like it's time for some folks to migrate over to imdb boards, because frequenting a video game based website doesn't appear to make any sense for some GS users, because apparently some aren't even buying games.


PS - The DLC/expansions won't stop because you scream on a message board. It'll stop when it's no longer economically viable. Cry some more.

hampton2003
hampton2003

I just checked origin and the season pass is surprisingly only $25 USD solo, and the titanfall deluxe edition (the game + the season pass) is only $79.99 (+20 USD). and they mention the season pass will deliver 3 content packs. tempting....

jack00
jack00

"going to do a season pass just because if you buy it up front, it's a deal".

Good one, I almost dropped a tear.

MrRyubusa
MrRyubusa

I hate season passes... It's just an excuse to get consumers to pay for a game twice. "Lets double the profit using promises and "deals"!". They know that the majority of people aren't going to use (pay for) all of the DLC that ends up getting developed, so they fix that issue with giving you a "deal" on a season pass. In reality you're essentially doubling the amount of money you spend on the game for literally nothing in return when you purchase it, or you'll get whatever DLC is already out, with the quality being rarely consistent across the pass, some are good and some are bad, the worst part is you don't even know you will enjoy what you payed for until each pack comes out one by one. I'm a little bit sick of getting offered content that doesn't even exist yet, in exchange for being treated like some "VIP" user of a game in the future, really the people who buy season passes are just vehicles for easing the greed itch of Electronic "Arts". EA really needs to forget this season pass thing, it's immoral and just completely unessential, especially when its applied to a brand new IP like TF. Titanfall definitely doesn't feel as fresh anymore with a season pass, starting to feel a bit more typical of every FPS this generation... 

blue_shift_91
blue_shift_91

WHOA. paid DLC for a multiplayer game? this is unheard of!

porunga_namek
porunga_namek

Not a fan of this, for a game that's going to be multiplayer only purchasable map packs seem like an awful idea. It'll split up the community and water down matchmaking. But thats just my 2 cents hopefully I'm wrong, not quite enough to deter me from buying the game yet though, I had a blast with the "Beta" they put out.

93ChevyNut
93ChevyNut

In other news, humans require oxygen.

iagbas
iagbas

Thanks for the news. Just cancelled my pre order. I will buy the complete package with its discounted to $5. I like to buy 60$ when they are complete package. Not when it hasn't got singleplayer and multiplayer content cut off just to be added as DLC at later date WHEN  ITS SUPPOSE TO HAVE IT IN MULTIPLAYER ONLY TITTLE.

Anigmar
Anigmar

I don't know why people are so surprised about the paid DLC. Basicly all COD games had it, so it was to be expected. "Do you want more stuff? Pay for it" sounds reasonable if they keep the DLC prices fair. What shocks me about all fps these days is the 60 euros price. That's 82 dollars! On PC that is usually cheaper... They have to stop this trend of overpricing the games.

noandno
noandno

I CERTAINLY DIDN'T EXPECT EA WON'T HAVE DLCS ON THEIR GAMES

samus_my_life
samus_my_life

i feel that Respawn is a very kind company especially this guy " Vince Zampella " he helped us a lot with the beta distribution lolz :)  

tomservo51
tomservo51

EA:if it's in the game.....you probably paid for it.

Techtroll
Techtroll

"There are things that we want in the game that we didn't get to ship in the final game. So we'll add private matches and things like that for free."

Hey vince private matches have always been free nice try though

atopp399
atopp399

Milk it baby.  Milk it before its even out.

observer98
observer98

I'm still confused, how does DLC work in an MP only game? Sure there's a campaign but like he said its only a couple of hours long. 

repetitious
repetitious

A lot of cry babies in here b*tchin about dlc like it's never been done before.

So what, you won't buy it. No one cares. Use whatever excuse you got. Dlc has been in games for years, it's it going anywhere just because a few self appointed dlc rebels b*itch.

You should have hired PC gamers long ago, they are pretty good at getting petitions started.

pnova
pnova

lol They have to buy a season pass and DLC now

thefinalzapkeet
thefinalzapkeet

I have a question for people bashing the fact this game has paid DLC....


you also didn't buy The Last of Us right?  That had paid DLC as well and, in your words, it must have been a crappy game.  right?  Weird, i could have sworn it won plenty of GOTY awards.  Same with bioshock infinite

kidnatural
kidnatural

@MrRyubusa  I would have loved to purchase a Season Pass for Skyrim, Oblivion, or Fallout 3. It's all about what you expect from a company. If you want more content, that costs money. It's true that they make money from initial sales, but they also have mouths to feed, and systems to farm. They cannot dedicate resources to something for free.


If you don't want the additional content, don't buy it. I follow that principle. When companies exploit DLC, then their integrity is harmed. As their integrity whithers, the chance that I support their work [DLC] mirrors.

McGregor
McGregor

@iagbas  Is the complete package missing? It really just looks like they didn't have time to add features that they wanted to...Technically they didn't have to say anything and you wouldn't be any wiser. Now you know they are adding the features in the future, and you won't have to pay for them.


future updates != incomplete package

GOGOHeadray
GOGOHeadray

@iagbas smart move; 60 bucks isn't chump change and I would never spend that amount on a game if I am not getting a full experience.

sammoth
sammoth

@iagbas Says the guy with the Diablo 3 logo with the $39.99 DLC.

Inlex
Inlex

@Anigmar  I really agree on that. Only always when I think that, I remember paying 129,99 Dutch Guilders in 1993 for Street Fighter II on SNES. that is (without inflation corrected) 58,98 euros. Add 20 years of inflation and boom: what trend..?

tons of other games were that price as well, btw... so it's actually very strange that we find this expensive.

Anigmar
Anigmar

@noandno Activision has them too. DLC is ok as long as it adds content without having a stripped release game. And keeping prices fair, of course.

repetitious
repetitious

Or maybe he was making an example to clarify what type of stuff will roll out free instead of ppl thinking it will be added into dlc later.

SerOlmy
SerOlmy

@observer98 A bi-weekly $20 map pack that gets you 1 new weapon and 2 new maps.  Welcome to EA.

jcloverboy
jcloverboy

@observer98 the usual lame map packs and skins. Although skins don't usually get included with season pass. So map packs lol.

seanwil545
seanwil545

@thefinalzapkeet  

I don't own it either and I did just pick up a PS3. I'd like to try it, but no, I have no interest in continuing to plunk down money for new content.

I will say that the Season Pass for TLOU is $20, compared to $50 that EA tends to charge.

What's that?...150% less?

theprismhead
theprismhead

@thefinalzapkeet No, I didn't buy it, I'll wait for the full package.

iagbas
iagbas

@McGregor @iagbasI hate buying DLC and it screws up matchmaking, I don't have to buy DLC but the future of the game is DOOMED, especially on PC.

QuadDamage85
QuadDamage85

@sammoth @iagbas  Last I recall Reaper of Souls is an expansion, similar to Lord of Destruction.  No one complained about that when it released.  Logic.

iagbas
iagbas

@sammoth @iagbas I had this logo long before D3 released. I am disappointed how it turned out when its released just like millions of other people and not buying expansion at all. (if you can call it expansion with miniscule content.)

observer98
observer98

@jcloverboy @observer98  So that means exclusive matches for people that shelled out money. This MP thing is the only thing keeping me from buying the game.

repetitious
repetitious

Eh your loss. Majority moved that way, not gonna miss out on a few things because of a few bucks.

The dlc interest me. I buy it.

If it doesn't I don't.

McGregor
McGregor

@iagbas @McGregor  I'm not sure I would say, "doomed". But the PC version always gets less love than the console version, at least by the community. I'm excited to play it though!

Zerglor
Zerglor

@QuadDamage85 @sammoth@iagbasPrecisely QuadDamage, why are people all of a sudden complaining these days about essentially Expansions that are now called DLC, I mean DLC came from the fact its "downloadable' instead of waiting 2 years after the game released for the expansion.

Look at Diablo 2, the game was good, it wasn't great, then the expansion came out a year or so later and you only got 1 more act, some changes to the game and a new hero or two (2 in the case of LoD)...

So you look at Titanfall, you have the game come out, its the full game and everything, months down the road you get more content, maybe some new guns, of course some new maps, and maybe something else, who knows right now since the game isn't out what else to expect.

The simple point is, I have no idea why this sudden hate for expansions and DLCs. Games have been having expanions and DLCs for a very long time, Starcraft came out in 98, Brood wars came out in what 99 or 2000? I can't remember. No one fussed about Brood Wars, no one complained that Starcraft wasn't the "complete game". This is just pathetic......... So many brats in the gaming world now, no wonder they dumb games down and make them pointless run, shoot, die, run, shoot, die games and games that aren't hard. People can't handle anything anymore.

kidnatural
kidnatural

@iagbas @repetitious  Milking it at a later date? I think the your perception is quite sad.


Mate, these people cannot work forever. Developers don't have an infinite money supply. Tell me, could you quit your full-time job while living in your own home, paying your own bills, and working full time on a game? Perhaps you have thick reserves, and are the exception, but most people need to earn Fiat to trade.


If you haven't taken any university programming classes, I recommend you try it out. I argue, under a busy schedule, after a few projects you'd realize how a developer (programmer, artist, etc.) feels. In particular that you're work is almost never done. The more you work at it, the more refined (e.g. bigger and better) you can make the program. If only you had more time...


To conclude, they need to eat. They need to keep the lights on. They can't keep a game in development indefinitely. Have you ever played a garbage CONSOLE game that was made excellent because of its DLC? Probably not, because the fundamental game generally remains as it is. If you don't want to support their post-launch work, then don't buy that content, hoping they allocate that resource back into their next project. 

iMpLuX
iMpLuX

@seanwil545 @repetitious The only person buying that 2nd Tesla is the CEO of EA. I seriously doubt that Art Asset guy is going to be able to upgrade from his '92 Honda Accord.


Also TC, get w/ the program. DLC is a thing that is not going away. The game is finished and what the DLC is extra maps and guns thought of and developed after the game has gone gold. Necessary features will be added free as stated by the guy making the game.

seanwil545
seanwil545

@repetitious

We should start a drive..."Help feed the starving Developers". We could get Sally Struthers as the spokes woman.

If anything we're only helping these guys buy that 2nd Tesla...for their girlfriends.

iagbas
iagbas

@repetitious if those developers released the content properly at $60 instead of milking it at later date, they would get full price from me. Now they don't get any sale from me except the deep discount on fail game.

repetitious
repetitious

Proof that it's cutoff?

So you like to buy games bundled when they are irrelevant and cheap? Developers needing money can thank gamers like you.