Suda-51 mulling Natal, PS3 motion-control projects

Q&A: Grasshopper Manufacture CEO considering new IP for Sony's and Microsoft's motion-sensing systems; admires Heavy Rain's attempt to bring "new experiences" to players.

No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle was released in the US to critical acclaim in January and is heading to Europe next month. The CEO of developer Grasshopper Manufacture, Goichi Suda--commonly known as Suda-51--was in London yesterday to talk about the game's upcoming launch and his future plans.

Grasshopper Manufacture CEO Goichi Suda.

Talking to GameSpot UK, Suda said he was "very interested" in making games geared towards Project Natal and the upcoming PlayStation 3 motion controller, which he saw firsthand at last year's Tokyo Game Show. This isn't going to be just an expanded port of No More Heroes, however. "I will make some original IP to fit that control system," Suda said.

Suda went on to explain that it took some time playing with the Wii to work out exactly how No More Heroes was going to work and that he anticipated doing something similar with Natal and the PS3 motion control systems. Any new IP would have to be designed with the control scheme in mind to make sure the end product is as good as possible, he said.

Suda also expressed admiration for Heavy Rain, saying he would "very much like" to make a title in a similar vein at some point in the future, as he likes the idea of "new designs and anything that gives new experiences to the players." Suda believes such a game might be tricky to make with "the current generation" of Japanese developers. However, he thinks as developers become aware of the "different tastes" of the three major markets--Europe, North America, and Japan--it might become easier.

Suda also addressed No More Heroes' relative lack of success in Japan, where Marvellous Entertainment has yet to confirm a release date for the sequel. He said that Western gamers are more open to games that are "silly" or "nasty" than those in his home country. He shrugged off suggestions that the Japanese development industry was not in good health, joking that the problem was just that journalists were upset at not being able to play No More Heroes 2 at TGS 2008.

Finally, Suda teased that he might have something new to show off at this year's Tokyo Game Show, though he wouldn't elaborate. Tune in to GameSpot UK's video show Start/Select next week for more from Suda-51, as he shows off a couple of his favourite parts of No More Heroes 2.

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homestarmy6
homestarmy6

I can understand how the ps3 move can function because all it is is an updated nintendo wii which is really cool and all but i think project natal is at the next level with this motion stuff but who knows if it will actually work...hopefully it will they have a lot of developers like ubisoft and squar enix and a controller free rpg would be bad ass...just wouldn't see how you can move a character they should have like a sub controller like the wii and ps3 or something...idk bottom line after all this rambling on is I hope it works out...

thenephariouson
thenephariouson

@Ganados0, Regarding Natal may also want to check out the following link: http://gamesxboxnatal.com/51/project-natal-release-date-leaked/ But if you cant be bothered ill paste the following excerpt: "currently we do know that Activision, Disney, Capcom, EA, MTV, Sega, Enix, Ubisoft and many more game publishers are already committed to developing games for Natal. the cost of the device will be the next big news. There has been rumors that the device will cost between $50 and $80, as soon as we have confirmation. You will be able to read the news here "

thenephariouson
thenephariouson

@Ganados0, "The only thing Arc and Natal have going for them is people thinking they are the same thing as Wii" [On the contrary, i would say the fact that this technolgy is much more advanced than the wii therefore allowing a much greater spectrum of games and possibilities] "Arc is slower then the Wiimote and impactical and useless for the very feature the Wiimote is praised for" [Slower than the wiimote? well you obviously missed the E3 2009 stage demo, where Sony demonstrated a 'Tech Demo' of the ARC in which they proved that it is in fact true 1:1 motion capture.] "and Natal plain can't function with any genre." [LOL, RTS, RPG, full body motion capture games, oh and lets not forget that Fable3 will include the use of Natal] "When you factor in the price of the things and the fact all developers except Nintendo cant even use the Wiimote properly then what chance do Arc and Natal have." [I cant comment on the ARC, however Natal is currently rumoured to be around the £100 mark, MS have also stated that it will be compatible with all future Generations of MS consoles, and if the developers are unable to 'use the wiimote properly' then blame Nintendo's poor developer technical relationship and not the developers themselves] "Oh and there's no games for them either." [Really? http://gamesxboxnatal.com/94/ubisoft-natal/ ]

chappy_man
chappy_man

sounds cool, i cant wait to see where he takes this

lobotomies4free
lobotomies4free

yeah we all know how the Japanese hate that WEIRD stuff

blancobo
blancobo

It is kind of cool that a developer is commenting positively on Heavy Rain. I am yet to buy it due to horrible skepticism. I just see the game as a movie where I can simply make decisions to take some different out come but the other part of button pressing is just as linear as it can be... well... this is what I saw during the demos here in GS... I will get it at some point after I have the change to get wrapped around the story. Not that psyched on motion control though... I see it as a distraction to avoid good tight controls on a game... Only see it cool for driving and FPS games.

ohioyankee
ohioyankee

the man just needs to quit making games, nothing he releases is any good

F3l1P3
F3l1P3

wtF was that at the end? XD was that a CAT? XDD Anyway game looks great, but i don't have a wii though

WeWerePirates
WeWerePirates

No More Heroes 2 has no Japanese release date but on the flip side No More Heroes: Heroes Paradise (PS3, 360 remake of the first game) has no release date out side of Japan with Ubisoft having apparently declined to distribute it. I guess it sucks to be a fan of the series no matter where you live.

finallyalex
finallyalex moderator

@Jonny_Tanna Project S was a radio drama, of all things.

manga777
manga777

@ Phantom454 How is june 15 exactly 3 months from the fourth?

Phantom454
Phantom454

@ kavedias1981 3 months exacly, it starts june 15 i think.

kavadias1981
kavadias1981

Bloody hell! I just realised that it is only 2 months until the E3 show. Where the hell did 10 months go!?

Ganados0
Ganados0

@ MTMind2 'No, Arc is faster than the Wiimote, it offers 1 to 1 tracking (which Wiimote doesn't), and Sony demonstrated this at E3 last year. So, how is that slower than the Wiimote again?' That was not a live demonstration the only live demonstration was resident evil 5 alternate edition which shows how slow it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfR5ctyw6LU Nintendo rejected similar technology for Arc and Natal for that reason.

steveguttenberg
steveguttenberg

As interested as I am in trying Project Natal and Playstation Arc, I can't wait for whatever comes after them. By then we'll be over the novelty of motion controls and be able to expect much more from them. I'm sure that one day I'll be playing a swordfighting game that meets my unrealistic expectations of Red Steel 1.

Jonny_Tanna
Jonny_Tanna

That's nice to know, but I'm still curious as to what's happening with Silver Case on the DS, Kuriyami and Project S.

leeko_link
leeko_link

I look forward to what Suda had to offer for NATAL and Arc.

Pikaandpi
Pikaandpi

If Suda can't make Natal and Arc work, no one can. He's a master of knowing exactly how far to push cutting-edge gameplay mechanics without overdoing it (see No More Heroes and how it used button-presses for basic swordplay and only used motion controls for the sickeningly satisfying wrestling moves and finishing blows), and I doubt that he'll stretch Natal and Arc to the point where it's too complicated. Once again, if Suda can't make a great game with Arc and Natal, they're doomed to failure. I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on this.

MTMind2
MTMind2

@Ganados0 who wrote "Arc is slower then the Wiimote" No, Arc is faster than the Wiimote, it offers 1 to 1 tracking (which Wiimote doesn't), and Sony demonstrated this at E3 last year. http://uk.gamespot.com/video/6211130? So, how is that slower than the Wiimote again? And said "and Natal plain can't function with any genre" Sure, and all those developing games for use with Natal (both on it's own and with the 360 controller) are just pretending it works. *rolleyes* ;-)

Ganados0
Ganados0

The only thing Arc and Natal have going for them is people thinking they are the same thing as Wii, they aren't, Arc is slower then the Wiimote and impactical and useless for the very feature the Wiimote is praised for and Natal plain can't function with any genre. When you factor in the price of the things and the fact all developers except Nintendo cant even use the Wiimote properly then what chance do Arc and Natal have. Oh and there's no games for them either.

Tezerel
Tezerel

@wyan_ Rly? Have you even played No More Heroes? What else does it need from motion controls? Should have had normal controls like some others had suggested. The only reason he's leaving the wii is because mature games do better on the other systems. Dude, the ps3 motion thing will be just like a freaking wiimote, dont even think other wise- whatever is profitable is what they make.

KillbombX
KillbombX

I have had it with motion control and I hope Natal and Arc (or whatever the project for PS3 is called) bomb hard. Hate to read this news since I was hoping to play Suda's next game on a standard controller.

robfield
robfield

"Western gamers are more open to games that are "silly" or "nasty" than those in his home country." Suda must not watch anime or play Japanese games at all

wiidsduelpack
wiidsduelpack

No more heroes 2 will debut in Japan. Hopefully has more luck in Europe. Perhaps Red Steel 2 will have more appeal.

wyan_
wyan_

No More Heroes was basically screaming for controllers as advanced as the Arc and Natal are, so I'm excited to see what Suda will come up with. If he can make a game fun with the Wii's inferior motion control, he will kick ass with these other two technologies.

Daian
Daian

Natal and Arc will demolish the Wii if they are as good as they sound and if devs make great games that take advantage of the superior "fire power" that the 360 and the PS3 can offer.

gskywalker09
gskywalker09

I can't wait to see what new innovative motion control games they bring to the ps3!!! :D

lilmurfer
lilmurfer

i'm sorry to requote but seriously; Western gamers are more open to games that are "silly" or "nasty" than those in his home country?"

FallenAngel
FallenAngel

Suda-51's a fruitcake, but a lovable one. Gotta love these quirky geniuses :)

keyboard-hero
keyboard-hero

I wonder about the Wii's future since its motion controling gameplay will no more be its greatest caracteristics. Every studio that is thinking to make a game perfect for the Wii will now consider the rest of the rival consoles aswell. Nintendo better start to make a new console or they will start to get in huge problems.

bm1212
bm1212

I honestly don't think that any of these motion controller systems will be getting my money. I have a ps3 and the wii currently and am fine just as I am. I would rather developers would spend less time creating these new technologies and just concentrate on making good games.

Senor_Kami
Senor_Kami

" He said that Western gamers are more open to games that are "silly" or "nasty" than those in his home country." That's pretty shocking to hear.

Huzzaahh
Huzzaahh

This will make me buy the PS3 motion controller and/or Natal.

mightycloud
mightycloud

You gotta love Suda51. He really makes an effort to try something new both in terms of gameplay and new technology. Loved all his work so far, even started playing Killer 7 again since finding a copy for the GameCube recently, and he can only get better in my opinion.

Marcster1994
Marcster1994

Suda51 is awesome. He's not afraid to develop an awesome, mature title for the Wii. I can't wait to see what he has planned next.

AnelZukic
AnelZukic

the man is a genius, I consider him as one of the best game developers we have now. If someone can make for the motion controllers for PS3 and X360, then it should be him :D

ffviiifreak
ffviiifreak

If someone like this is working on games for these 2 new controls we might see some good games a lot sooner then I thought.

KillerBill316
KillerBill316

Didn't we agree that the PS3 motion control thing is called "Arc"? Or is that still up in the air? .............Anyway, good to see developers willing to try new things to give us new gaming experiences, regardless of my opinion on the whole Natal and Arc thing.

XenoLair
XenoLair

Thats cool, Suda san knows a thing or two about game creation.

njp62
njp62

I think that having 3 different motion controls will be bad for multiplat motion controlled games

ebookerd1
ebookerd1

Good I would like to know if there will be some good titles for Natal or the PS3 motion sensing. I am williing to give either a chance if there are titles. I won't buy a console to collect dust.

HBC14
HBC14

SUDA 51 game creator name of the century XD

Gr33nHippo
Gr33nHippo

What about Kurayami? The PS3 horror title? Is he still working on that...?

WR_Platinum
WR_Platinum

Looks like if he does a NMH 3, it will be multiplat.

AK_the_Twilight
AK_the_Twilight

Man, Suda-51 is a mad genius, but No More Heroes will be hard to top. Can't wait to see what he thinks up for Natal and the PS3 motion controller!