Petition calling on Microsoft to reinstate Xbox One policies gaining steam

New Change.org petition asking Microsoft to revisit controversial next-gen policies reaches 18,000 signatures in under a week.

A Change.org petition calling on Microsoft to reinstate its controversial Xbox One policies is gaining steam. The online petition currently has more than 18,000 supporters, up from just over 1,000 only two days ago.

The petition is boosting traffic for Change.org, a representative for the site told GameSpot. The campaign is the "most active" petition on the site right now, with a full 4 percent of all people visiting Change.org viewing the petition, the representative said.

"This was to be the future of entertainment. A new wave of gaming where you could buy games digitally, then trade, share or sell those digital licenses," the petition reads. "Essentially, it was Steam for Xbox. But consumers were uninformed, and railed [sic] against it, and it was taken away because Sony took advantage of consumers [sic] uncertainty."

Under the terms of Microsoft's original Xbox One policies, users were required to connect to the Internet once per day. In addition, secondhand sales saw various limitations.

Microsoft has yet to publicly acknowledge the petition.

When Microsoft reversed these policies last month, the company also ditched the Xbox One's family sharing plan--which was to allow users to share their games library with up to 10 family members on any Xbox One.

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Qmajinbuu
Qmajinbuu

You're right, I can't tell you how much data is saved.  However, that is because the government has been so secretive about this whole thing and only tells people the truth when they've been caught lying and have no other choice.  Our leaders repeatedly said these programs weren't taking place.  They repeatedly said they weren't spying.  Even Obama in 2007 called programs like this illegal and said he wouldn't use them if he was elected.  Then information that was leaked showed that our government were, in fact doing it.  So once again our leaders repeatedly lied about the scope it's being done it, the amount of data being collected, the areas being collected from, and the people being collected from.  But little by little, every single thing they have said has been proven to be nothing except one lie after another.  What is known, though, is that information on average civilians IS being stored for years, and in some areas forever.  You can easily look on the web site I sent you about license plates and see in some cities, that information is never deleted.     As for you saying the XBox One won't be used for surveillance, I think i've proved that is exactly the purpose of the machine.

1-  The CIA last year admitted they want to have many more devices that are inside peoples homes installed with cameras and connected to the internet for the purpose of spying(including gaming systems.)

2-  MS reveals that their new system must always be online and turned on at least once a day.

3-  It's revealed that MS is willing working with our government to help spy on the American people.   

It doesn't take a genius to see what is happening here.  If you really want to continue this discussion, we can.  However, i've proven my point by showing how our government has ADMITTED they want to spy on all Americans, and even want to use gaming systems.  But if you still think you have a leg to stand on, then i'm here waiting for a reply.

Qmajinbuu
Qmajinbuu

Sorry been away.

First off, why don't you just quit with all the cursing.  It doesn't offend me at all, but i'm just letting you know that a person curses when they can't think of anything intelligent to say and are trying to make what they said seem longer.

". If there is no point, then its a WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY. You really think a country in debt would spend billions to watch people in their homes with very little to no beneficial outcome"  Nope, they wouldn't waste it, but who said the money is being wasted?  They're getting exactly what they want by spying on everyone 24/7, so to them it's not a waste of money.

You ever hear of automatic license plate?  Probably not, but its a tactic being used by police more as of late and it originally was intended to find stolen cars, drives in trouble with the law, or people being searched for.  It is now(according to our own government) being used to track all citizens by mapping the driving patterns of everyone throughout the years and that data, in some areas, has been confirmed to be stored forever.  Police Documents on License Plate Scanners Reveal Mass Tracking | American Civil Liberties Union  

What about refrigerator cameras, ever hear of those?  Well those exist too and the CIA has even went on record and said they want to use it(along with many other devices in the homes of the public such as dishwashers, doorbells, clock radios, ovens, GAME SYSTEMS, and tv's) to spy on the masses.

The CIA wants to spy on you through your TV: Agency director says net-connected gadgets will 'transform' surveillance | Mail Online

Smart appliances could help CIA spy, says Petraeus. 

So are me and the CIA both lying about how they intend to use this technology? 

themc_7
themc_7

I'm on the fence here. At first when microsoft dropped those policies I was happy, but the more I hear about the better it sounds. I'd hate to see the policies reinstated only to find, yes indeed they do suck. Gamespot needs to come up with a pros/cons list for these policies

Chrypt22
Chrypt22

Ehh its just trolls upset that XB1 has gained a lot of steam.  I hear the argument gamers are upset that the console is not a hardcore gaming platform.  Well, it is, if you want it to be and it does other things... I dont see the harm in that.  Its also the evolution of media / entertainment platforms.  I remember when phones were phones and the thought of them being an mp3 player as well was scoffed at like it was the dumbest idea ever.  Well guess what...  In the long run I see Sony struggling a little because they don't have the cloud technology that MS has.  As a stand alone platform PS4 is a solid product, but the days of stand alone anything are quickly ending.

Ninja_Danny
Ninja_Danny

The xbox lost its roots as a hardcore gaming console, and is now a entertainment media device. We buy these things to play games not to facebook, twitter, skype, or dance around like monkeys.... well some of us like to dance like monkeys... ahem

But for the most part, Microsoft is not admitting the mistake they made, and listening to the gamers.

The things I look for on a system is:

1.) Amazing Graphics

2.) Good games to play (and lots of em)

3.) Affordability 

Other than that I could care less about the extra features, and rarely if ever used them. about the only thing I did use was the DVD player for movies, and netflix. but I have a roku for that. I don't want my gaming console to be a Roku. 

Anyone else agree with me or have similar thoughts?

blackothh
blackothh

so there is a petition to make the xbox crappy again? what the hell is this world coming to?

northArrow
northArrow

Where's the petition to have Kinect removed?

Bond_Villain
Bond_Villain

Wahhall me and muh ten children are reaaal upset about this police-y change. We wuzz looking to share our digituhl downlodes with the kin

And that there Always on DRM thingie, how could someone ditch something suhh awesome. 

Had to be a reaall ritard to do it I reckon

Me and muhh ten sons and missus are gone mossey over to there change.org and sign the petitshun and get these things back yah hear; just ya wait and see



NeonIndian
NeonIndian

all the people signing it are sony drones lol

Jedilink109
Jedilink109

What the frak?  How would the reversal of those stupid policies make the system worse?  The system now gives the gamers MORE freedom than before, not less.  These people are idiots.  It's probably some dorks spamming the site using programs to switch their IP addresses. 

fiendless7
fiendless7

if they do reverse their policy, we should petition for it to be re-reversed!!

daemonproject
daemonproject

Did anyone notice the article about M$ and the NSA giving out info etc....has disappeared?

talamalopilis
talamalopilis

i think people are just signing it to screw over microsoft

deadly_yank33
deadly_yank33

Microsoft makes money...sony is in debt...lmao

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

It's not gaining steam.  Most of the signatures are people leaving hilarious comments mocking Microsoft.

The easiest way for Microsoft to exit the console gaming market is to reinstitute that nonsense.

COPMAN221ISBACK
COPMAN221ISBACK

No petition is needed. You know damn well after the sucker buy their xbone they will change it right back and continue with business as usual at the microscam HQ. #DEALWITHIT

LuIzalot
LuIzalot

People that signed this are doing so to trick Microsoft into killing their own console.... I should sign too.

CP2077
CP2077

are they trolls that signed this?

deltamirage
deltamirage

Was this petition started by Cliff Bleszinski ?

tightwad34
tightwad34

Can someone explain to me what would be the benefit of bringing the policies back? I can't think of how this could make anything better.

YukoAsho
YukoAsho

Oh, hilarity.  I doubt they're going to DRM the console back up.  18,000 signatures on a signature website isn't the same as the complete decimation of your pre-order numbers.  The majority have spoken - they want ownership, not permanent rentals.

modernrow
modernrow

I signed it to see Microsoft fail. Anyone else do that?

akawebbs
akawebbs

I tell you what I figure that both systems will be about the same graphical wise and pretty much everything else, the only reason I decided to go with XboxOne was because Ryse was exclusive and it seems like a must have game.  Well after reading this BULL about them going back and fourth with there statements and continuing to be wishy washy with there ways I decided to cancel my order and i just pre ordered ps3 for 390 with tax and and all on ebay.  They just lost a customer that would have bought an average of a game a month.  Have fun being crooked Microsoft, hello PS4 :)     

btw there should be one available xboxone on amazon now if you ppl wanna go snag it up hahha

TirOrah
TirOrah

It's nice to see that people who share this opinion are doing this and have a chance of being heard. Not that I agree, but they have their opinion and I have mine. 

However, I can't help but feel like part of these supporters are just doing it for the trolling factor. I don't know why, but it's the first thing that came to mind when I read this. O_o

CyDidley
CyDidley

Honestly I think MS is lying to everyone about the reason for their 180.

Evidence: They didn't have to remove Family Sharing from ALL games, just the disc-based versions.

The truth is, the developers were pissed off when they heard that MS was going to allow you to share 1 copy amongst 10 "family" members.  This policy would have basically allowed people to form clans of 10 people and game-share.

MS used the internet 24hr check-in policy change to claim that now we have to remove the "Sharing" plan.    Why? 

Conclusion: There is no reason you couldn't share a Digitally purchased game and continue the "Share with 10 family members" plan without a 24hr check in.

I call Bullshit.

stocksyp
stocksyp

this is the most pointless comment ever. Your argument is that the ps4 is basic and only plays games. when the xb1 will do that at EXACTLY the same standard but also do a hell of a lot more. Pull your head out of the sand and get a grip

crazyintheface
crazyintheface

@Ninja_Danny I understand your point of view but Xbox was always about connecting with other people. The name itself tells you something about it. Xbox One as in the one box that can do it all. I don't understand the hardcore gaming console idea though because regardless of the extra features it still plays games just as good if it didn't have the extra stuff. Why does a "hardcore" console have to only play games? What does that even mean to be "hardcore"? What does a "hardcore" console do better?

Personally I love all the new features. I like that I won't have to constantly switch video inputs. I'd rather have one box that does everything. No need to buy a Roku or a Blu-Ray player taking up space. 

As far as good games, well that's up to developers not the console maker.

stocksyp
stocksyp

why would you want that removed?

Ninja_Danny
Ninja_Danny

@NeonIndian Not a sony fan, was actually anti-sony till this happened. They just screwed up big time. :T

liandrikonflict
liandrikonflict

@daemonproject Well NSA do have info on everybody...including Gamespot employees...NSA probably have some incriminating videos of employees masturbating to Laura Croft or something.

RicanV
RicanV moderator

@daemonproject I thought it was just me. An article with over 5000 comments disappearing is highly suspect. 

LuIzalot
LuIzalot

@tightwad34 

I don't know. Watching Microsoft burn to the ground would be pretty cool.

ViciousRDS
ViciousRDS

@YukoAsho 

It's strange that people keep saying this. The pre-orders for both the PS4 and XboxOne were sold out before the policy reversal, weren't they? How can that equal low pre-order numbers?

jasongm
jasongm

@TirOrah i found out one of my friends signed this petition, even though he has no plans on ever getting a x1, yes its definitely a troll petition.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@CyDidley Only if they all live at the same address.

daemonproject
daemonproject

@COPMAN221ISBACK @daemonproject Would be M$ or the NSA emailed GS and said remove the article or suffer legal actions! What idk but no other reason to remove it!

But truth of the matter is M$ aren't the only major company dishing out small amounts of information to the NSA.

northArrow
northArrow

@ViciousRDS @YukoAsho You may be confused with the special edition "launch day" Xbox, which had limited quantities and was probably gobbled up by collectors. They didn't have any sell outs of the standard edition pre-order until after the policy had changed.

Think about it, there had to be a market driven reason the Xbox changed their policies, you don't actually believe that they listened to people's complaints on the internet do you?

TirOrah
TirOrah

@jasongm Ha! I'm glad my intuition wasn't completely off the mark. I was afraid my recent dislike towards Xbox was influencing me (no it isn't - oh YES it is), but it seems my suspicions are at least possible. Lol trolls.

ViciousRDS
ViciousRDS

@northArrow @ViciousRDS @YukoAsho 

I just remember some people saying that they couldn't find any pre-orders, at all, available in their area, even before the policy reversals. Pre-orders aren't the only indicator of the market. They make projections based on what people are saying, as well.

ViciousRDS
ViciousRDS

@modernrow @ALCHEMISTx24x7 

I kind of get what you're saying, but the initial policies had absolutely no cons for me personally and plenty of pros that I could see. Does believing that everything applies equally to everyone make you seem mentally retarded? You're the expert, right?

modernrow
modernrow

@ALCHEMISTx24x7 Not being able to weigh the pros and cons of  something and not coming to a logical conclusion that the one pro does not outweigh the several cons of reinstituting a bunch of restrictions makes you look mentally retarded