Microsoft ditching Xbox One family sharing plan

"We won't be delivering that," Xbox boss Marc Whitten says after yesterday's policy reversal.

Microsoft's previously announced Xbox One family sharing plan is no longer in the works, chief product officer Marc Whitten told sister site CNET in a new interview.

"We won't be delivering that," Whitten said.

The plan was short-lived, having been announced just two weeks ago on June 6. It was to allow players to share their games library with up to 10 family members on any Xbox One.

Xbox boss Don Mattrick alluded to the program's cancellation yesterday during his blog post concerning the Xbox One policy reversal.

"These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc," Mattrick said. "Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray."

For more on the Xbox One's new policies, check out GameSpot's full report on the changes.

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Redarsin
Redarsin

Woah, I can actually let people BORROW my games? What was microsoft smoking when they thought of that?

IanNottinghamX
IanNottinghamX

I will never be happy until they get rid of Kinect or just make Kinect optional....

Urizen316
Urizen316

So they change it all back again to satisfy the demands of gamers, and now you people complain because it doesn´t do anything new? I was actually looking forward to the family plan and the no disc in tray setup... *sigh*

drokmore
drokmore

Wow MS just keeps changing and changing, I'm going to wait and see how the first month goes for both and then decide

Archaicc
Archaicc

Wow, people always find something to complain about.   Really people?  

starjay009
starjay009

Just when you thought Microshaft used their brains more than their a$$e$... they come from behind and f**k you so hard that your brain starts to fart. This is their childish way of expressing their POWER over the gamers. F**K you Microshaft. I proudly pre-ordered the PS4 and am sticking with the system for life. I feel guilty whenever I look at my 360 because I love it so much and respected your company for delivering the BEST console of the current gen. Since your XBOX ONE reveal and the immediate policies accompanying the new system, I have lost complete faith in you. I am not interested in the XBONE and will never ever will be. 

kryteris
kryteris

Here is a solution, make the DRM optional, meaning if they want to trade, sell digital copies, or loan to family members give the user the option to select each game in which the new drm will be activated on. If they no longer wish to loan out or sell, etc.. have those features for that specific title then they turn it off. But while on, the 24hr checks, etc. will be enforce but only for the selected title. 

*all microsoft needed to do is give us the option, not the demand.

lozzacaile
lozzacaile

I think's it a small thing to loose in comparison to what we'll gain from the double-back policy on locked games and 24hr sign-in. 

ddaypunk06
ddaypunk06

I "understood" just fine to be honest. Yes it would be cool, and to be honest, they didn't say this would NEVER happen.  They just said it would not happen at launch.  Its a business tactic.  They saw what Sony did and were willing to do with the push to a more digital market with the PS4, and then stepped back a bit to be more in line.  I expect to see them change some things a bit again before launch actually happens.  They most likely have not put ALL their cards on the table just yet. They will pull something out closer to launch to really differentiate the two consoles.

Benja1337
Benja1337

So i guess microsoft will be offering a standard 20 or 50 disc changer to come standard with the xbox1 and kinect since i will have to have the disc in the tray to play a game. Since they say we can do instant switching between games. Oh wait nope i get a kinect weather i want it or not, and kinect must be connected no matter what, but the thing i would love to have (instant switching between games) will not happen because i don't think microsoft will make it any easier for someone who uses game disc since they would love to have 100% digital downloads right from them and not 3rd parties. You have to love this system oh wait there are other options out there.

Benja1337
Benja1337

So if i don't buy a disc then I will be unable to let my kid play a game i just digitally bought? I think that microsoft has some big explaining to do before i will ever consider buying their xbox1. So how will xbox1 work if i buy a game and download it play it then when I'm not home and my kid wants to play the game what happens then? With no family sharing how will my kid access the game? Is microsoft saying that if i want to allow my kid to play the game i must have a game disc? Wish microsoft would quit spiting out random words and polices and tell us what the real plain is.

project2kill
project2kill

Does this mean, No more instant switching to a games unless the disk is in the tray? What? This sucks!! Xbox should have left the policy alone.

SpicaAntares
SpicaAntares

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/21/4451172/xbox-engineer-disappointed-pastebin-note-rumored-features

"However, the engineer reveals that Family Sharing would only let family members access a "demo mode" of the game for between 15 mins and 45 mins, and in some cases an hour. After that time, the shared game would cease and a user would be forwarded to a marketplace to purchase the full game."

No Xbox One for me. No Kinect, no you pay $100 more for things you don't need nor want, no Microsoft-I-do-anything-to-stab-you-in-the-back-if-I-can-get-away-with-it any more... PS4 and that's it for me.

Tegorian
Tegorian

That is just it I've been gaming long enough to say that happens so infrequently that I wouldn't care.  I mean with time and age come wisdom I've been gaming long enough to say I still own a Sega Master System and original NES system.  This generation alone I have had Xbox360 since launch and maybe had 1 game that i didn't like purchased.  I've learned what games I like, do my own research, and use critics like weather men just to get an idea what it may be like.  I mean what would any of you do if you purchased a game on PS3/XBOX right now from digital offerings and didn't like it?  So my point is one of the things I was looking forward to personally with the whole DRM thing was never switching a disc out when I wanted to go from Madden to a NFS game to Titanfall or to Destiny.  Also, going to a friends house and not needing a disc to play my games or sharing with my family who are currently 300+ miles away so the here is my disc method doesn't work for me personally.  Just feel like the whole situation is a little overblown.

Granpa0
Granpa0

Well well well.  Microsoft almost pulled a fast one on all the gamers.   http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/21/4451172/xbox-engineer-disappointed-pastebin-note-rumored-features    Never trust Microsoft to do anything that seems beneficial to anyone without their being a catch involved. 

"However, the engineer reveals that Family Sharing would only let family members access a "demo mode" of the game for between 15 mins and 45 mins, and in some cases an hour. After that time, the shared game would cease and a user would be forwarded to a marketplace to purchase the full game"

jcr8
jcr8

So what if they dropped it. I mean if anyone believes that they would actually let you share your games in their entirety with 10 people with no strings attached, you are just being way naive. If something sounds to good to be true, it is.

Bond_Villain
Bond_Villain

I dont know what's the big deal about this family plan thing

they took away DRM and used games restrictions, I'm happy with that

robbiejones
robbiejones

Xbox will always be known as cowards from here on forth

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

This was a really good feature and it is sad that they didn't show more of this. People wouldn't have had as many issues if this was as known.

saint311
saint311

would love to see an opinion article on this from gamespot, preferably by Van Ord, but McShea will do... 

kenhu
kenhu

If you're going down, at least go with honor.. stick to your plans more people will respect you for that.. years from now we'll remember how M$ went out like a wuss, a greedy one that is.

Mendax2013
Mendax2013

 btw: nothing has changed regarding xbox one.

it is still a more expensive console that has 33% less power than the ps4.

it is still aimed at TV and MOVIES 

it still has the mandatory kinect.

it only gets 3 or 4 actual exclusives at launch, the rest is also on pc.

and now it lost it features setting it apart from the ps4 there really is NOTHING left for it.

ravenbeast
ravenbeast

see everyone would have supported the digital copy thing if M$ was to offer games for half the disc price like around $30. but from experience with PSN specially on VITA u buy the physical copy or a download copy doesn't make a difference. u pay almost the same damn price.I wouldn't mind the internet restriction crap if I paid $20 or even $30 per game. u wanna make innovation? fine, do so at ur own cost. Don't abuse the poor customer ... 

theend3r
theend3r

Ditching AODRM doesn't nescessarily mean they have to give the whole concept up. What about implementing online rental service or supporting a gradual increase in digital sales by pricing them lower (or at least the same price and not higher like until now)? If someone was forcing me to become dependent on steam overnight I'd quit PC gaming, the change needs to be gradual.

terrusaet
terrusaet

@Urizen316 Well they could still do the family plan and the no disc in the tray thing, just make it only with games you buy digitally. Have it as an option to conventional retail. 

Valen_Ca
Valen_Ca

@kryteris  

 Yeah, I don't understand why they don't do that, Microsoft has more than enough resources to pull this off. I think this is just Microsoft tossing a fit over gamers not liking the forced DRM they put in place.

jd7904
jd7904

@SpicaAntares The thing that gets me is after this is shown there are still people mad at everybody for complaining to get MS to backtrack even though the family share plan was a glorified demo program.

DigitalBushido
DigitalBushido

@SpicaAntares Same here, pathetic Microsoft. Thought for a second, (because of misinformed IGN) that  Microsoft was actually "Good guy Microsoft" letting 10 other friends share your game library and play your games, even if it was only one at a time. And after I found out, you can only play a "demo" and then they shove you to the marketplace. to purchase full. That is sad. What I thought is even sadder is that, this "family sharing" let's say your little brother gets on your console to play. He plays the demo and then Microsoft tells him to go buy the game, EVEN THOUGH, you had bought the copy of that game for your system. Sad reality of crappy MS.

SpicaAntares
SpicaAntares

@Tegorian 

With time and age I've come to consider that words come and go but that discs stays. I've also learned that it's nice to research games, I do also, and that there are many games out there fun to play that don't deserve to be bought full-price. In other words: they deserve either a nice waiting for their prices to come down, or to be bought used, or to be borrowed from friends. See my point?

I don't care if my games are installed or not on an HD as long as they play properly, and all of the games I have play properly. I don't care if my games are installed or not on an HD because one way or the other I will have to raise my ass from the sofa to get to the box and look at the manual.

As for your friend 300 miles away: how do you expect him to have the game if you don't bring him your disc? Unless you think: hey, why not download a few gigs of games every time we want to play one... Sounds very logical....

Thanks, but I'll pass...

ggregd
ggregd

@Granpa0 So they dropped it because it was another anti-consumer marketing ploy.

ratchet200
ratchet200

@robbiejones Exactly. They failed to listen to gamers when they announced the Xbone wouldn't let you share pre-owned games and would always require a constant internet connection.

Now they've caved in because of all the hate they were getting. I mean it's a good thing and all but shit this could have been avoided if they had listened in the first place.

hadlee73
hadlee73

@liandrikonflict Hmm its marked as a rumour, but if true that actually makes the family share feature sound pretty crap, which makes Microsoft dropping it entirely make far more sense.

OldKye
OldKye

@liandrikonflict Thanks for noting that it's not verified but honestly that sounds more like the Microsoft I've know since I was little^.^ I would actually have to applaud how perfectly underhanded that is.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

@saint311 Gamespot Gameplay is where you can find that. Their podcast is purly them talking about current news with their raw opinions and they talk heavily on the matter. You hear from Kevin, Tom, Caro, and Chris in this weeks episode. They talk about E3 and the Xbox One news.

saint311
saint311

@kenhu couldn't agree more.  As much as I didn't agree w/ all of the DRM policies, I would've liked to have seen MS go through w/ it and see if/how it'd change the industry/market.

Mendax2013
Mendax2013

@kenhu indeed, if you say you're gonna do something have the balls and go through with it. This just lost them their remaining credibility; they don't even believe in their own vision and ideas!

Mendax2013
Mendax2013

@driftingsilvia more like 3 steps back, what do they have now? not even the infinite power of the cloud to make their games better as that would be unfair towards their userbase lol

Benja1337
Benja1337

@Archaicc @Benja1337 That is kinda the point. We cut them some slack for xbox 360 and ps3 but now is the time when we need to stand up and say that this is the way you want the market to go not me the consumer. :)

Tegorian
Tegorian

@SpicaAntares @Tegorian Ok your time or age are pretty young as most people today don't buy CDs any longer yes you can still find them but people for the most part don't purchase them.  Matter of fact not sure many people don't own an MP3 player but you keep that Walkman alive my friend should be pretty light on a 5K.

When I relax, get it like hard days work, i don't see a need to have to get up and change a disc like I don't know where the gym is located.  You may need that short walk to help you get your exercise but i'll pass on that.

As for the friend comment you my friend are exactly what i've been talking about read up on the whole Friend/Family sharing that Microsoft initially planned on rolling out but now has axed in favor of the here is the disc thought process.  Ignorance can only be fought with knowledge and if you don't know what that was referring to I doubt you really research any games.

DWalker131
DWalker131

@ggregd @Granpa0 they didn't drop it coz it was anti comsumer, they dropped it coz no one pre ordered one with the DRM in place

SpicaAntares
SpicaAntares

@ggregd @Granpa0 

They didn't flap their mouth too much on the subject because they knew they would be stoned once more in public.

SpicaAntares
SpicaAntares

@Tegorian @SpicaAntares

Looks like time to fight ignorance has come for you also. Here's what MS thinks of your Family Sharing Center or whatever:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/21/4451172/xbox-engineer-disappointed-pastebin-note-rumored-features

"However, the engineer reveals that Family Sharing would only let family members access a "demo mode" of the game for between 15 mins and 45 mins, and in some cases an hour. After that time, the shared game would cease and a user would be forwarded to a marketplace to purchase the full game."

As I said before: thanks, but I'll pass. Have fun with time-limited demos...