New Mass Effect 3 co-op DLC uses single-player data

Unconfirmed Reckoning multiplayer DLC to bring six new co-op story missions to Mass Effect 3.

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Data regarding an upcoming Mass Effect 3 expansion have surfaced thanks to eagle-eyed data miners who combed the game's recent bug-fixing patch.

This new co-op mode, likely to be released as future DLC, will incorporate players' single-player progress, including Paragon/Renegade points, reputation choices and major decisions made throughout the campaign.

This knowledge was prised out of the patch by Clevernoob forum poster TSA_383, who also found references in the files for new ultra-light shotgun, assault rifle and pistol materials for multiplayer. The recent single-player weapon DLC will also find its way to multiplayer.

The information tallies with the information a Reddit user posted last week, which pegged the title of this DLC as Reckoning.

"The day of reckoning is nigh!" read the description. "The Reckoning Multiplayer Expansion brings six new never before seen co-op story missions to the game and new co-op gameplay modes. It provides four new maps to conquer and hazard variations of the Earth maps. It also enables reinforcement packs that offer new kits for the Salarians, Krogans, humans and Volus. In-game reinforcement packs now include three new weapons (Chakram Launcher, Blood Pack Punisher and Adas Anti-Synthetic Rifle)."

Two Mass Effect 3 screenshots released earlier this week also teased upcoming DLC, and BioWare has already said it is beginning work on a Shepard-free Mass Effect 4.

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Legend002
Legend002

I stopped caring about ME3 a year ago...

musalala
musalala

I think its pretty clear now that the next mass effect game will have a very very strong emphasis on multiplayer at the expense of single player.

zintarr
zintarr

BioEA is dead to me.

tgwolf
tgwolf

...Or if it was a game with snuff, ratings aside, they would have had full co-op, it's not like NWN, Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale games aren't glaring at this wholly unworthy product and wondering how their gloriously-full co-op glory could have been squandered on pieces of media like this...

Shango4
Shango4

Bioware made Kotor 1,Mass Effect,Mass Effect 2,Dragon Age: Origins,and Dragon Age: Origins Awakening.EAware made Mass effect 3,Dragon age 2,and star wars the old republic and all 3 games destroyed the franchises and Bioware .To bad they didn't become like world renown badass companies like Rocksteady,Rockstar,Gearbox,Bungie,Naughty Dog and even Ubisoft.Oh well I'm going to go back and play Borderlands 2 have fun playing games from a milked franchise.

p.s. Even though EA turned Bioware to Eaware and destroyed their franchises and their reputation Mass effect will always be greatest game series in gaming history

here is a trailer to greatest game I had ever played and Bioware made 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2O-0-fQOOs

Random_Virus
Random_Virus

Sold my copy with a quickness after the gigantic disappointment of an ending.

Bioware will never see my dollars again.  I'm sure they'll go on, but that's my vote with my wallet.

Wrex13
Wrex13

Mike Gamble said  recently all this Speculation hes heard so far about the new DLC has been false So Far so when i asked about the Coop mode it might be false  if what he said is true

Master_Vexov
Master_Vexov

I love the ME universe, but everything is over.

A multiplayer-vs game would rip the game apart, it would hardly be anything of what it is(althoe that may be a good thing as I consider the current multiplayer to have gotten out of hand with the the weapons and some abilitys, its like Diablo2 with runewords "a dozen Aura's SOLO!").

The ME3 endings were cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap(pull your imagination from the chick, i mean bird not girl).
Even if you complain about how ME3 endings had absolutly ntohing to do with your choices and made not logical sense considering your at peace with the Geth which would overload the stupid Star Child, you would have to admit for everything seen in ME games and what you should come to "expected" from ME3 that the endings were some sort of low budget crafting. The new endings i would have assumed would have been a spit in the face no matter what side of the fence your on.

Buying more DLC's when the game is finished is just so foolish, it won't change the endings(that includes making the endings worthy of a 3-series game ender, not a low budget basement job).

Anyways, ME4 is a joke of an idea, but im sure the majority will eat that shit covered grass all the same. This DLC like all the others is garbage, EA will keep feeding you the garbage you make them rich off of, so long as you support them for it.(which the majority will, cause its programed into them, like breed for being slaves).

Parelinor
Parelinor

This looks like a market test to see if their new game modes are fun or not, because EA and Bioware apparently don't have a quality control department, so they are using an already existing game to test out new features and techniques that will be used on ME4. I'm banking on the next game being a persistent online multiplayer game where the your single player character is your multiplayer character. Meaning you have solo missions that apply to your own story line, then you have 4 player co-op missions that you and your friends can do. And on top of that there maybe some 4v4 multiplayer battles just for fun.

Now here comes the suck, if they do something like this there would be no way to incorporate a co-op that ran consistently throughout the game because everyones story is different. I mean they could but the co-op would be side missions that would not be essential to the main plot. Main story co-op would be fun but not at the expense of the story telling.

"Insert ominous music here"

This is the scariest word in the universe right now "Prequel". Translation, absolutely non of your decisions in the past 3 games matter because non of it has happened yet. On one hand this would be the easiest production path for Bioware since all they have to do is write a new story to fit the lore of the game. But on the other hand, nothing alienates your loyal fans more than saying thanks for all your hard work in the previous 3 games but forget all that and start from scratch. I personally want to see how the galaxy is getting along after the invasion. How the Krogan are doing, what's up with the Rachni. I want to go to the Citadel and see a giant statue of Shepard that has "Your Welcome" inscribed at the base of it. 

And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is my theory.

predatorGS
predatorGS

There is of course a reason why the MP DLC were/are free... If not, then not everyone would be able to play together because of  "missing content". The last thing they want is to stop people playing MP (and thus keeping ME3 on their pc/console) and loose interest in the SP dlc.

FOXofOJAI
FOXofOJAI

This is fake, no way Mass Effect can offer a co-op mode tied into the actual story. Integrating the choices of both characters would be a mess. Not to mention that the quoted description looks to have been written by a 16 year old. 

BlueRaptor7
BlueRaptor7

Not to beat a massacred horse or anything, but after the "pick a door" ending I was given after my 5 year Mass Effect epic, I'm just not interested in any DLC for ME3 whatsoever. It's akin to, "Oh look, that game again." 

mitchd2100
mitchd2100

CO-OP is another way of saying "pay to play"... You have to be on live to play with another and that means more profit for MS and EA... Thats just not right...

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

Hmmm...I wonder if this is something they plan on using in the new ME game but want to test it out first.

shadowx2009
shadowx2009

register in www.clevernoob.com for more leaks .

DARKKNIGHTPRABZ
DARKKNIGHTPRABZ

hmmn , i loved my own personnal shepeard story. Im playing mass effec2 again. I look foward to see what becomes of this DLC. 

But im wondering if bioware will releae a special edition of mass effect 3 with all DLC. ? 



Lizkimo
Lizkimo

Makes no sense. How can you have co-op with SP data if your choices are different from other players'? Sounds fake to me.

Auriken
Auriken

People are always going to complain. It's best to just accept it and ignore them. The ones who complain are almost always the most vocal, it can fool you into thinking that the majority is complaining, when in fact the more reasonable among us are just waiting to see how long it'll take for them to finally shutup.

I actually have a real bet going on with my friends right now. We all made a prediction on how long people would keep whining about Mass Effect 3. None of our predictions were under a year so it's still going. My friends got some others involved and right now the bet is up to just over three hundred dollars.

I actually lost a similar bet when it came to Dragon Age 2. People are STILL complaining about that, so I adjusted my expectations for the Mass Effect 3 whining. I predicted two years, but I must admit I'm starting to get nervous. I think it will last longer.

Shango4
Shango4

@Legend002

Bioware made Kotor 1,Mass Effect,Mass Effect 2,Dragon Age: Origins,and Dragon Age: Origins Awakening.EAware made Mass effect 3,Dragon age 2,and star wars the old republic and all 3 games destroyed the franchises and Bioware .To bad they didn't become like world renown badass companies like Rocksteady,Rockstar,Gearbox,Bungie,Naughty Dog and even Ubisoft.Oh well I'm going to go back and play Borderlands 2 have fun playing games from a milked franchise.

p.s. Even though EA turned Bioware to Eaware and destroyed their franchises and their reputation Mass effect will always be greatest game series in gaming history

here is a trailer to greatest game I had ever played and Bioware made 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2O-0-fQOOs

Mass Effect 2 Launch Trailer

Shango4
Shango4

@Legend002Karpyshyn wrote the first Mass Effect script and was heavily involved with the second, but quit the Mass Effect team midway through to work on the recently released Star Wars: The Old Republic. Posting on Something Awful, he tells a tantalising tale of Dark Energy, species preservation and humanity's unique genetic advantages, touched on at several points in Mass Effect 1 and 2. You might remember Dark Energy from the Haelstrom mission in Mass Effect 2, or from the Arrival DLC. According to various growly internet hintings, it makes the Reapers look about as menacing as a slightly wilted Greek salad.

"The Reapers' goal was to find a way to stop the spread of Dark Energy which would eventually consume everything. That's why there was so much foreshadowing about Dark Energy in ME," Karpyshyn wrote.

"The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of its genetic diversity and represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread.

"The original final choice was going to be 'Kill the Reapers and put your faith in the races of the galaxy in finding another way to stop the spread with what little time is left' or 'Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means.'

_Silent_Jay_
_Silent_Jay_

@PureSophistry Actually, sloppy journalism is the blog post you link to.  Single-player co-op is a contradiction of terms, and the story cites (and quotes) the original Reddit post as where co-op was clearly stated.

Leejjohno
Leejjohno

@musalala  It certainly wouldn't surprise me.

Probably an adversarial mode thrown in and viola.

everyday182
everyday182

@Tripwolf When EVER has mass effect had micro transactions?! You can pay for the packs if you like but you can easily rack up enough score to buy the most exspensive ones WITHOUT real money in a matter of an hour or two?!

Duke_51
Duke_51

@Parelinor I think a prequel would be cool, it doesn't bother me that your choices wouldn't carry over. Incorporating every decision from the past three games into a sequel would be a tremendous task. They could do something with the Rachni Wars, or the First Contact War, or even something from one of the books.

Inlex
Inlex

@Parelinor I think you might be wrong: The fact that you made certain decisions in the first 3 games, will make it possible to push 'your' prequel story a certain way. The biggest problem is that you know what will be happening which makes the experience possibly much less interesting...

JulyAeon
JulyAeon

@Parelinor and this is my favourite comment on the citadel.

 oh, wait, the citadel is gone...

JulyAeon
JulyAeon

@Suikogaiden Funny, I was expecting that when I pre-ordered my ME3 a year ago!!! So how come they "suddenly" think this could be important?!?

But I think your right.  If the rumor proves to be true, there won't be any changes that will turn the single player around.  But hey, the dlc I would ever buy for ME would be the super special edition of  a remake single player in the spirit of ME1 and ME2.  There is still money to be made EA!!!

Wrex13
Wrex13

@predatorGS  wel its was freee because EA got the worst company in ameirca Award and your right on the other part

Master_Vexov
Master_Vexov

@FOXofOJAI Oh, a 16year old? well if you said 12year old then i would have said it was the writter for ME3.

Link3301
Link3301

@mitchd2100 Only if you are playing the 360 version. Plus, I don't think EA gets money from Xbox Live Subs.

Auriken
Auriken

@Lizkimo They did it a very long time ago with Baldur's Gate multiplayer. I'm fairly certain they can think of a way to do it now.

Shango4
Shango4

@AurikenI hardly believe those against the endings were a minority. I myself was one of them who heavily criticized the ending (especially here on Gamespot . There were a lot of problems with the ending.WHY does the size of an army determine whether or not Shepard lives or dies? That doesn't make sense at all. Furthermore, why does Shepard die at all? Why couldn't there be a "happy ending" where they all regroup and rebuild together and he can be with his true love and at peace? This is not a matter of it making sense, but a matter of how limited and restricted fans were to make their own ending.WHY does every ending have the same cutscenes with only a slight color variation? Of course, we're led to assume: yes, you control the Reapers/yes, all organics and AI are one now/ yes, the Reapers are destroyed. But fans don't want to assume and imagine for themselves: they want to SEE IT.But I think my biggest pet peeve is why did this all happen at all? I've heard various stories: the original writer for 1 and 2 left, only a few select writers knew about the ending. It does't really matter. SOMEONE made the decision to not review that ending before sending the final product out. I can't imagine everyone in Bioware/EA sat down, saw that ending and went, "Yeah, that's going to be good." They had to know, regardless of how much sense it made, that it would SUCK. And that's exactly what happened: the ending was a colossal failure.But THEN, when you thought it was all over: they released DLC. The funny thing about the extended edition is that, while it was designed to explain the ending, all it really did was explain why their ending sucked so much. Ok, the ending makes a little more sense now: that doesn't make it a good ending (revert to the last paragraph). Leviathan, the apparent creators of the Reapers came into play, and now there was a chance at deactivating Reaper after Reaper through the minds of these creatures. But they never showed up to fight apparently AND, when it becomes a dialogue option with the god-child (the only time it appears in the final mission) that little smart-a$$ son of b#$%h has an answer for that too, hence dismissing the whole point of the DLC altogether ..To date, Omega (despite not having any impact on the ending other than being a number in your army) is the ONLY thing Mass Effect 3 related I have liked. Wasn't the best storyline, but at least it worked.Now they're making ANOTHER DLC and while I have some hope restored thanks to Omega, it's less than 50% anticipation.AND THEN they're going to make a Mass Effect 4!?!? Are you kidding me? Aside from the fact that they had the audacity to ask if fans preferred a sequel or a prequel (something they should be able to figure out on their own but can't because they KNOW they ruined the series all together), the whole idea is ridiculous. A prequel doesn't make sense because we all know what happens and ultimately that ruins the whole experience (especially because we all know the outcome is disappointing). A sequel is stupid because what villain, regardless of however many years later, is going to top the Reapers? Unless the villain's creators...oh wait, that's leviathan and I don't want to touch that topic again....I don't think you realize the gravity of how badly that ending ruined the series. It made everything such a disappointment  All those memorable characters, all those epic moments, it's all for nothing. There is no true triumph in the end.You claim the control/synthesis endings were indoctrination. But we all know that's not true because Bioware dismissed the whole indoctrination theory. Which brings us back to what I was getting at in my original post. The indoctrination theory could have saved their lazy a$$es big time and they chose to make their ending even worse than it was upon release.So when they ask about Mass Effect 4, I laugh and say make nothing. Forget about this series. Leave it alone. Let it be forgotten and die away in the pages of history of one of gaming's greatest failures. Make a new series all together.These "simpletons" and "retards" you speak of are not just whiners and complainers. These were fans who truly shared a love for this series that are upset and disappointed with this once proud and grand universe that has fallen at the hands of three distinct colors. When you learn of such a disappointment that definitely could have been avoided, you lose respect for those responsible.That is the story of Mass Effect. This is now their legacy.

DarckArchon
DarckArchon

@Auriken If for those people the game (or games in this situation) sucked when they played and finished, you wont expect all of them 1 or 2 years or X years later to change they're minds regarding the fact that the game was bad

pound-u
pound-u

@Auriken I'd rather "whine" that be a loser who just sits back and lets companies screw you over.

Skyrim25
Skyrim25

@Auriken  Without that..."whining"...then the devs can make any bull crap they want because no one is complaining. Just look at all the Call of Duty games that come out and people dont complain and there games are ALL the same with no innovation and creativity. 

pedrote
pedrote

@Shango4 @Legend002


So, according to Drew Karpyshyn it's -


Yo dawg, to ensure you don't destroy the galaxy with dark energy we created devices that create so much dark energy that you can travel across the galaxy in hours without fuel, so you don't destroy the galaxy with dark energy!

Makes a lot of sense... right? RIGHT? Now, let me give you some cheese.


Plus, you sound kind of weird... posting stuff to people that REALLY don't care anymore about ME, up to the point of posting the same video several times after the end of your comment. You need some sleep.

Parelinor
Parelinor

@Shango4 @Random_Virus  No, its just EA now. They've completely assimilated Bioware and turned it into a second rate developer. They are part of the collective now.

deeman010
deeman010

@everyday182 
Wtf?!? Are you stupid? The very definition on a micro-transaction is paying for something inside of the product that you already purchased. YOU stated it yourself "You can pay for the packs if you like....." Wtf... I'm disgusted that you try to defend EA and, at the same time are oblivious to what they are actually doing. 

pedrote
pedrote

@Shango4 @Master_Vexov It made no sense, plus it had some circle logic. That's why it was ditched.

Master_Vexov
Master_Vexov

@Inlex @Parelinor And thoes certain decisions don't include the impact at the end of the game, so really nothing would change.. just the dialog on the way.

rebelguy0
rebelguy0

@Shango4 @Auriken You've just shown a fairly sad lack of imagination. We already know what happened in the past? Yes. So what? The next game doesn't have to be about a massive galaxy spanning war. We sure as hell DON'T know the individual stories of that have gone on over the years. A smaller scale and more personal story could work, be it past or present in the Mass Effect universe. Yes, it would need to be emotionally engaging and yes it would need to feel worthwhile and of good quality, but it could work. I don't see why you have to say that they should leave and forget about it just because YOU (and you have all the right to do so, of course) don't like it anymore. Why deny others more? Look, I think that the ending was a letdown to me also, and this is my favourite game series, so it hit hard, but people complaining about it publicly all the time is just annoying. People can dislike it or hate it but the need to spout it in public constantly is actually just depressing at this point, it brings the rest of us down and is either irksome or boring

rebelguy0
rebelguy0

@DarckArchon @Auriken By all means they can keep that opinion, but they don't need to spout it in public for the rest of their lives. It's annoying.

Auriken
Auriken

@pound-u @Auriken Yeah because you guys have done so much good, right? Oh wait, no you haven't. You guys seem to fail to realize that complaining continuously about something doesn't work most of the time. If you think you're making any kind of a difference then you're fooling yourself.

You know who Bioware listened to when it came to the Mass Effect 3 ending outcry? It wasn't the ones throwing a hissy fit, it was the ones who explained why they thought it was terrible in a clear and concise manner.

It is perfectly within your right not to like something and express your dislike, but it's also within my right to think you're annoying and tell you so.

But here's the cold hard facts, something the whiners can't seem to wrap their head around: There is nothing left to fight for! Bioware did the extended cut and they've made it clear that will be the ending, just as much as the fans have made it clear in return that they're not happy.

That's the entire point right there. You are not giving them new information. You're not expressing yourselves in any way that hasn't already been expressed. The point has been made. When your complaints have been expressed so many times that any continued complaints serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever, then I'm sorry but your complaining has changed into whining.

It's been nearly a year, whatever you're hoping to achieve by continuously whining about a problem has already been achieved. Bioware isn't going to change anything else, and all the whiners expressed their unhappiness a long time ago. Do you think they lose their memory every 24 hours and need constant reminders?

96augment
96augment

@Skyrim25@AurikenHave you read any article about Call of Duty or Activision or Battlefield? There are plenty of people who complain about Call of Duty. 

f_demon
f_demon

@Tripwolf @everyday182 Well, your entire life is a balance of having enough time and having enough money to do things. At some point your time becomes more important than the money

Voilá, the reason buying stuff for games is there. I don't have the time anymore to grind for packs but I do have a job with which I can pay for it. And why is this so frowned upon in the West, whereas in places like Korea this is quite common?

Shango4
Shango4

@pedrote  it did make sense 

everyday182
everyday182

@Master_Vexov @FOXofOJAI @BlueRaptor7 Except he is clearly interested in ME the other guy is not so his response to a post about ME is totally logical where as the person who said he was not interested is in a ME article posting about ME hence his comment.

Wrex13
Wrex13

@Auriken @pound-u well if  its constructive sure complain but some i've seen well is pointless just Voice your opiion nicely and constructivly like a grown up we can try to cahnge things if we're Organized and its done in a polite way Bioware EAware whatever ignores rude comments  just look at there forums

Master_Vexov
Master_Vexov

@Auriken @pound-u 
WoW, your just the best of fool tools on this planet!.

I was writting a lengthy response, but sheep like you couldn't ever think past eating and shitting.
One thing thoe; just because other peoples opinions are at odds with your own doesn't make THEM wrong.

Also, you complain about complaining and for someone tired of seeing complaints, you sure do seem to want to get involved.


Imo, your a biased arrogant sheep.

JulyAeon
JulyAeon

@Auriken     and yet you are whining about the whiners...LOL, you just made my day.

You just remember the whiners used to be you and you will be the future whiner of next year when your fun will be spoiled.