F-Zero future uncertain, says Miyamoto

Nintendo visionary can't see what could be added to the racer "that would really turn it into a great game again."

Nintendo visionary Shigeru Miyamoto has cast doubt on the company returning to its sci-fi racing series F-Zero in the near future.

Speaking to IGN, Miyamoto said a lack of new ideas was stopping Nintendo from making a new entry in the series. "I certainly understand that people want a new F-Zero game," said Miyamoto. "I think where I struggle is that I don't really have a good idea for what's new that we could bring to F-Zero that would really turn it into a great game again."

The debut trailer for Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U showed sloped and vertical courses in a fashion similar to F-Zero's futuristic tracks, and Miyamoto acknowledges the connection. "Certainly I can see how people looking at Mario Kart 8 could see, through the anti-gravity, a connection to F-Zero. But I don't know, at this point, what direction we could go in with a new F-Zero."

The last F-Zero game, F-Zero GX on the GameCube, was developed by Sega and released in 2003. Miyamoto also adds that Nintendo would rather not have its games developed externally now.

"Obviously in the past we've tried to work with other companies, where we've let them develop games for us in franchises like Star Fox and F-Zero, but the more we think about it, the more we prefer to be able to create those games internally, on our own."

"We've obviously, as I mentioned, been working on what we can do to increase our internal staff in a way that will allow us to have more projects going at the same time, so we can create new games and work on additional old IP and still maintain the other primary franchises that people want to see."

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SWBF2Pilot
SWBF2Pilot

30 player online grand prix races to qualify for a master cup (where they unveil 5 new tracks to prevent just grinding time-attack to victory) at the end of the year. Bring back all the old tracks and vehicles. Develop a slightly more robust custom vehicle system, and add a track editor. No need for weapons, just buff spin attack slightly and keep the side checks in there. The ridiculous speed the game moved at and the need for insane reaction times were what made the game great to begin with (like the N64 pod racer game), the formula doesn't need to be changed up much at all.

Superzone
Superzone

New F-Zero game with HD visuals, new tracks, and online play.  I would pre-order that without hesitation.

halofreak3487
halofreak3487

Add online play, more tracks, weapons (maybe), expand the story, new styles of play, etc. There is a lot of ground these guys can cover, but we still get the same Mario Kart games. I mean those don't drastically change and there's been eight of them...

LOSTLEAD8R
LOSTLEAD8R

Don't really care either way. F-zero has such a steep curve to it, not to mention how it really strains eyes....How it kept getting sequels is beyond me. But like I said, im not opposed to a new one, but im not exactly excited for it.

Derpalon
Derpalon

Give us weapons like in the Mario Kart series, except they would be more futuristic / sci-fi themed. I know that might be pushing it a little for this type of racer, but I think it would be something interesting to see; if nothing else as just an alternative mode of play.

AyatollaofRnR
AyatollaofRnR

"I think where I struggle is that I don't really have a good idea for what's new that we could bring to F-Zero that would really turn it into a great game again."


Didn't stop them releasing Mario Kart 8, or more smash brothers games etc

armedvigilante
armedvigilante

just copy off of the best mario kart. F zero double dash

Gooper_Blooper
Gooper_Blooper

Yeah, should have said "F-Zero doesn't sell" instead, this excuse is nonsense. Plenty of Nintendo series thrive despite not changing a great deal. All they have to do is add new tracks, pump up the graphics, add a couple new modes of play, and put the game online and boom, there's your new F-Zero.

brainiac1988
brainiac1988

had the original on the SNES. and also the sequel on the gamecube, which was really good.

not everything has to be motion based IMO. just make another high speed racing game like the gamecube version. it adds diversity to the list of first party titles.

nickske1
nickske1

F-zero GX 's music was so good, it always gave me an adrenaline rush when racing at crazy speeds. Good times. The story mode was really challenging, what sometimes was kinda frustrating.

Zilaan_
Zilaan_

F-Zero GX is very fast, witch is great. A new  F-Zero for Wii U would have to be, at least, as fast, the problem is motion controls don't work at those speeds, and the Wii U game pad wouldn't really bring any advantages to play this game, as you wouldn't have time to look at the second screen for info, and back at the tv in fractions of a second without crashing.

bunchanumbers
bunchanumbers

Make F Zero a competitive online racer with access to grand prix style races with up to 30 players. This alone would make F Zero stand out from any other entry in the series.

ziqi92
ziqi92

It seems easy to have a successful F-Zero game on the American market, but I wonder if the same holds true to the Japanese market. Nintendo often thinks about their Japanese market first, which is why they were slow to enter the competitive online arena.

bloody_roar_fan
bloody_roar_fan

I remember wen I was 13 playing Fzero in the GBA, it was one of the best games EVER in it!!!

The music and graphics were awesome, The ships were cool, The tracks were really fun, The gameplay topnotch, The difficulty  BRUTAL!                                                                        And the ending.... OMG it was EPIC!!!!


But that's what keep me playing and replaying for a long, long time!

And I remember always waiting for a new one to come out! 

Waited for 3 years and nothing! Idiots, could have made money.

Redsyrup
Redsyrup

How about racing through hyper gates that take you between planets? Up space elevators to planetary moons? Or racing on orbital platforms in transit to space stations and back again. There's lots of cool things that can be done.

What he's really saying is he doesn't believe there's a market for a new F-Zero title. Sell the characters. Focus on simulation like Gran Turismo and less on Arcade (MK). Differentiate your products. Remove the anti gravity from MK8.

jayd02
jayd02

So we won't get it.  Nintendo you need to give us games and fast.  You need to give us the franchises that we know and love.  What about Kid Icarus? Kirby, Metroid, Custom Robo, Star Fox, Kirby, and Golden Sun, Fire Emblem, Earthbound.  Yes some of those have come out on handheld recently but what is to stop them from releasing on the Wii U?  Why not release more on the 3DS.  You could actually win this generation of gaming  if you give us the exclusives that we want.  What you have proven and we as gamers have proven is that we want good games over anything else and you guys have the franchises we want.  

so_hai
so_hai

The tracks could be even more insane. The speed was right, the atmosphere was pretty spot on, and the music was suitable at the time.

Don't think online multiplayer because of the speeds involved - if you don't remember, the timer had three digits after the decimal point, not the usual two.

Yalaa1
Yalaa1

My favorite F-Zero game is X, GX was okay imo. I would love to see a new F-Zero with awesome graphics, racing tracks and music and a nice story mode. What i hope to see in F-Zero WiiU is online up to minimal 12 players, miiverse show and trade vehicles, create your own tracks, create your own vehicle, race with your Mii.

I don't know what to expect from StarFox since Command it was a full on rails shooter game, but the gameplay is so mediocre and not even close to the greatness of SF64. The story wasn't horrible but it ruined the StarFox team and it just didn't make any sense. 

Platinum Games seems like a worthy developer for the next SF but that's the same thing most fans thought about Rare, Namco and Q-Games(which is the worst offender in this case)  only to get dissapointed later. So i think it's better for Nintendo to hold these games a bit longer and come up with their own new ideas.

Bluemeanie77
Bluemeanie77

don't know what could be added??  how about A TON of tracks and customize racer and online racing??  There you go...new game!

tightwad34
tightwad34

I honestly didn't know this franchise was still around. Shows you how much I like racing games. Yeah, I don't.

Jestersmiles
Jestersmiles

Nintendo , lvl 100 at talking it self out of money. 

Vrygar777
Vrygar777

Oh come on... Lack of creativity at Nintendo?

-Open tracks, kinda like an outdoor/offroad racer. Of course there'd be hazards.

-Maybe flying segments?

-Different uses for boost? Maybe like a ranged attack (which wouldn't be delving into Wipeout territory too much). Or maybe they could implement boost jumps.

-Why not add more RPG elements to it? For campaign you could choose which elements of the blue falcon/whatever you wanted to upgrade. 

-Expand upon the vehicle creation

It isn't that difficult to come up with new ideas...

madsnakehhh
madsnakehhh

Let's be fair, Mario Kart is a much succesful franchise, that's why any new ideas they could come up with will always be added to Mario Kart, is sad to say it, but i don't think there is enough room for 2 racing franchises in Nintendo and there is no way F-Zero will take over Mario Kart place. RIP Captain Falcon and crew :(

ArabrockermanX
ArabrockermanX

I think its time for a petition of what we want... Petitioning for GX HD with online multiplayer couldn't be asking too much of them...

gargungulunk
gargungulunk

Updated graphics, really.  This game is still awesome on the older systems.

Maybe have some tracks that are "outside", like you're racing across the surface of a planet.  Add some crags and cliffs, molten lava speed traps, tunnels you can bust through...

Or maybe a track in empty space, with asteroids to curb around or dodge.  

I'm wondering if a combat system would fare well, like guns and punches...I don't think so though...that's more Kart than Racer.

matrixman2k
matrixman2k

I understand that creativity is drying up in the entire industry and ideas are not that forthcoming not to mention all the cuts and financial squeeze (budgeting).... If you lot cant be bothered to come up with shiny new ideas, just do a HD remake. It should be cheap and cost a fraction of a complete new game. Up date all graphics and simple upsampling on the sound will do just make sure to include online play...as for extra levels just remake more of the older levels from previous Fzero games. Nintendo really needs to put in another guy just to brainstorm ideas, I'm board of mario/zelda. So stop flooding the market with the same old, same old and start to give a new lease of life to your old IPs.

You don't necessarily have to change everything due to the fear of being accused of recycling. Forget what some of the bias magazines says, I'd much rather have a updated version of a game for the current machine then not having it at all. Besides recycling helps the environment anyway. Now start making some of these HD remixes!

MooncalfReviews
MooncalfReviews

Awww man but I want me some F-Zero with modern day graphics. It's unique among racers, and super fun.

ciphfer
ciphfer

F-Zero on the gamecube was absolutely nuts! It was an amazing achievement that has yet to be duplicated in my opinion. 

You mean to tell me that they could not add touch screen features, updated graphics, some new additional track and something the previous games never had....Multiplayer?

That alone would make me purchase the system. This is the problem with Nintendo.

danboy_1990
danboy_1990

id honestly rather have this than mario kart though... 

Icepick_Trotter
Icepick_Trotter

Come on, Miyamoto...

Just because Team Ninja destroyed Metroid forever doesn't mean you can't trust anyone anymore...

...I think Starfox Assault by Namco wasn't bad...

Redsyrup
Redsyrup

Mario Kart 8 is a blatant rip off of F-Zero. How can he say there's no new ideas? Nintendo obviously pushed them all into MK8.

slapshakle
slapshakle

I would buy a Wii U today if I knew there was a new F Zero game coming. 

Wula_
Wula_

I wish I could beat F Zero GX on the harder settings....... as it is the hardest game I ever played. And people told me that Ninja Gaiden was...... that shit was easy in comparison to GX :C I just wish they would make another Fzero game that I could enjoy again. Even if I couldn't do the hardest settings.

nini200
nini200

FZero GX with FZero 64 Soundtrack and Online Play.

Omegasis
Omegasis

Release a new F-Zero and a new Star Fox and I would consider buy a Wii U. :)

Meta-Gnostic
Meta-Gnostic

I'll give you an idea. Go back to the same style mode-7 F-Zero that was on the SNES. Make the tracks longer, add new obstacles and power ups, have 16-30 AI opponents, add hills and valleys to the tracks. Add customization and vehicle parts that can be used to tweak the characteristics of each ship.

Use either very detailed polygons for the tracks & ships or modern sprites that still carry over the original SNES design. Allow somewhere between 16-30 people to race against each other online solo or in teams. Consider a digital only release if you don't want to put it on disc.

dre256x
dre256x

@ziqi92  Well said.. Its a simple fact F-Zero doesn't sell well outside of the US. Nintendo as a company has to be thinking about games that sell well in all 3 territory..

That being said, I think they can put a small team the Next f-Zero and let it have a slow development progress (maybe 2 1/2 yrs) and aim for a release in the January-June period, what ever they decide do not release it in the fall, it doesn't have the caliber to for head to head with big AAA games that gets released around then.. 

N-bellic
N-bellic

Man I'd love a new Golden Sun game.

SWBF2Pilot
SWBF2Pilot

@so_hai They could resolve discrepancies using the times from the player's own console. I think most fans would be happy with just an HD collection that brought all the old stuff into the modern era and gave them an F-Zero game to play with their friends again, so they'd be too busy being shocked at a new F-Zero game to complain about lag.

so_hai
so_hai

@tightwad34 It isn't still around. It's been a decade since the last game.

LesserAngel
LesserAngel

@madsnakehhh Yeah... that's such BS. They're not even the same genre of Racing Game, I.E. Sony manages to run both Gran Turismo and Motorstorm. Hell, it works in other genres as well, Namco has 2 fighting game series, Tekken and Soul Calibur. The solution is simple, stagger the releases, DON'T release the games at the same time.

ArabrockermanX
ArabrockermanX

@Wula_ I think I'm going to get  a new memory card and pop it back in just because of the reminder of that game... Never played a game as hard as it.

Redsyrup
Redsyrup

@Meta-Gnostic I'd prefer more of the old style. Rounded body design and fins. Less floaty controls would also be nice. F-Zero was all about speed, jumps and obstacles. They should have plenty ideas for this.

Wave Race could also use revisiting.

Meta-Gnostic
Meta-Gnostic

@nini200 Wipeout looks like a SNES game in HD and looks like mode-7 in motion? Wipeout has longer tracks that are aesthetically and literally designed like the tracks in F-Zero for the SNES? 

Wipeout has jumps & repair zones & slowdown zones on the track? Wipeout has 16-30 AI opponents? Wipeout has customizable ships? 

Wipeout has ships that look like the ships in the first F-Zero? Wipeout has 16-30 player online play? 

Ya I guess it is the same, if you're incredibly stupid.

nini200
nini200

@Meta-Gnostic @nini200 The game you want FZero to be obvious is Wipeout because Wipeout has most of the stuff you mentioned.